Myth II Updated 153
Bullseye writes "Today, MythDev and Project Magma are releasing their first update to Myth II: Soulblighter, created by Bungie Software. This update brings the game to version 1.3.2, and patches noticeable bugs in Windows XP/2000, as well adding native support for Mac OS X. Coinciding with this release, the group is also announcing Myth II 1.4, to be released May 15th, which is a major update to Myth II that contains over 100 enhancements, including: graphical and interface improvements, OpenGL support for Windows and Mac OS X, gameplay bug fixes and improved AI, and the addition of vTFL, allowing virtual play of Myth: The Fallen Lords in Myth II. The Myth II 1.3.2 update can be downloaded here. New players may also sign up for Myth II's free community-provided online gaming services, playmyth.net and mariusnet. An update to the Linux version of Myth II has been rumored, though not confirmed as of yet." Update: 03/14 23:02 GMT by M : See also MythDev's site about the game.
Linux Update Please! (Score:3)
DG
What the hell? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What the hell? (Score:5, Funny)
Especially updates of games released in 1998!
Re:What the hell? (Score:5, Insightful)
My guess is because it's such an odd story.
The people who created this patch aren't being paid for it, it's done entirely by fans of the game (who they are I can't tell, because the mythdev site doesn't have a list available..), they're doing it for free, and apparently doing it without support of the people who actually own the Myth francise (godgames).
Very few details have been released about what sort of deal transpired that convinced a publishing house to permit a bunch of random people all over the world to extend and enhance a game.. without trying to cash in on the deal.
It's not the updating of Myth that's important, but how it came to be.
Plus Myth is one of the best games ever so it does deserve the attention anyways.
Re:What the hell? (Score:1)
The hell! (Score:1)
Re:What the hell? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What the hell? (Score:1)
Re:What the hell? (Score:1)
Myth 2 is my favourite game of all time, and I loved it even WITH the glitches in XP. This new patch is great and fixes it. The upcoming update has me really excited. Not just another patch and a load of fixes, but piles of new content are on the way too.
Of course, Myth 2 has one of the finest communities going (bar one or two members I've encountered who were complete cunts), and t
Linux version. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Linux version. (Score:2)
-Erwos
Re:Linux version. (Score:2)
Re:Linux version. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Linux version. (Score:3, Insightful)
The good thing is that hopefully the Linux app will be updated, and if so, a person would not need to buy the specific 'Linux version' of the game; all someone would need is the data files (from any version of the game) and the updated app.
Re:Linux version. (Score:2)
It is the plain old MacOS API with a few twists, this is called Carbon. The closest you come to this on Linux is coding for Wine.
Then there is the OS X API, Cocoa. This is basicly NextStep API, where coding reallly ought to be in Objective-C or Objective-C++.
And finally you can code for X-Windows / Unix.
And there is a long way from Carbon to Linux.
Great news! (Score:3, Funny)
You're right! (Score:1)
What was I thinking?
Re:You're right! (Score:2)
One of the other popular ones is "Looks like an SOF2" clone.
It's the "unoriginal bastard" way of patting themselves on the back for how witty they are
Myth was a cool game. Especially the tutorials, "Way to blow things up!". I stayed away from Myth2 though because of the installer. If you uninstalled the game before the
Re:You're right! (Score:2)
No, I played the game. I enjoyed Myth 1 better. And Syndicate Wars above Myth. Thus Myth 2 spent little time on my hard drive as I didn't think it was fun.
My comment was a tongue-in-cheek way of saying that I, like many others, didn't find the game to be fun or worth my money and time.
Re:You're right! (Score:3, Funny)
Wrong game (Score:1)
Re:Wrong game (Score:1)
Bad time to be the FNG (Score:3, Funny)
Good to see this... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Good to see this... (Score:4, Insightful)
2) It wasn't even Godgames who done it, it was a bunch of volunteers who operate outside the company. No, this does not mean that Myth is open source, but that a select few can get to it (as far as I can tell... there is little to no information on all the relevant sites)
3) Bungie also isn't porting Halo. Peter Tamte (sp?), who used to work for Bungie, has set up a company (the name escapes me) which is porting the game.
4) If you wipe out Microsoft, you take Bungie with them. Game over man!
Re:Good to see this... (Score:2)
4: And this is bad why?
Re:Good to see this... (Score:1)
Re:Good to see this... (Score:4, Interesting)
One and a half: Halo for Xbox and Oni (through Take Two/GoD).
How many new games have been announced since 1999?
One: the sequel to Halo.
Is the first Halo on Mac or PC four years after they were announced? Nope, and it may be five years before they do.
How exactly are they starting revolutions any more [bungie.com]?
Re:Good to see this... (Score:2)
Re:Good to see this... (Score:2)
Microsoft sucked their soul out.
My tears are long since shed.
Do I get extra points for rhyming haiku?
Who's going to start another gaming revolution? Hint: It won't be a sequel-slave owned by Microsoft. (Nor EA for that matter.)
Myth 2 R0X0rz! :P (Score:1)
Oh and as a side note, I hope the NVidia driver becomes available, I can only get 640x480 on my 17" iMac on OS X M2
PS I KIK UR DED, I OWNZ J00 N BC TRO!
Helm's Deep recreation on Myth. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd love to see a mod file that did this, and the video to watch it.
Re:Helm's Deep recreation on Myth. (Score:2)
Yea lego would kick ass in the battle of Helm's Deep. If the orcs blow up your wall, you just rebuild it!
Re:Helm's Deep recreation on Myth. (Score:1)
Walls? (Score:2)
Re:Walls? (Score:5, Insightful)
There are plenty of Myth II levels where you need the mortar-wielding dwarves to blow holes in wall to proceed through the level. So that part is going to be fine.
As to siege ladders, I don't think I've seen that happen. But then again, it's definitely time to dust off the Total Codex and go Mything in Action.
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
Re:Helm's Deep recreation on Myth. (Score:2)
Shelob was the perfect climax. JACKSON!!! We HATES it forEVER!!!
Of course the army of the dead will be cool, if Jackson bothered to read that part of the story (which I for one don't count on.)
Sorry.... Dunno what cam
The shame of PJ (Score:2)
But it was a nice touch. In all realism, I think Tolkien's oversight was to think that the Elves would not stay to defend Middle Earth. Old aliance... eh, if the Elves loved Middle Earth at all, and they did greatly, then they would have come to aid. I'll bet the Dwarves would have as well, if they were told what was going on.
But yes, of all things, why PJ messed with the Ents and Huorns saving Helm's Deep, I don't know. It's as great an injustice as E
It stands up (Score:5, Interesting)
Maybe I could RTFM/A, but not here: does the updated version support old films? Films, for example, with the various mod packs, like WWII, Civil War, or Lego Land? The films from this game were so watchable, just great.
(If someone had recast MOO II in a similar way, it'd rate a /. story. This is just as cool a game, or moreso.)
Re:It stands up (Score:1)
I'm mad 'cause I can't find my old film "And Garwin Alone" anywhere... I think it was from Myth:TFL... I fought a multiplayer match where my entire army was wiped out except for one warrior who had killed 17 (!) enemies with his sword. I uploaded it to some fan site but I don't remember which one and Google doesn't know about it anymore :/
Re:It stands up (Score:1)
Re:It stands up (Score:1)
Re:It stands up (Score:1)
Re: Support for old films (Score:1, Informative)
But don't worry, you can always reinstall version 1.3 and watch all your old films =)
Re: Support for old films (Score:1)
ARGHH! Say it ain't so Joe! I have over a thousand films... That's irritating that they can't make it backward compatible without having the game installed twice! ARGH! All my movies of completing the game on legendary, gone...
Style (Score:4, Interesting)
All in all, it was definitely a polished, atmospheric game, with interesting constraints and levels. Not an FPS, and not an RTS.
One thing's for sure - if you never tried the multiplayer or the level packs which basically redesigned most of the game (fighting Lego characters? World War II armaments?), you missed out on at least half of the fun!
Re: my username (Score:1)
Re:Style (Score:1)
Single player though, it's laugh with the WW2 plugin. The lego one cracks me up too. There's a few crap ones (there was a sci-fi one which was awful), but most of the unit plugins add an interesting dimension. Like the one that makes archers fire exploding dwarves:)
Re:Style (Score:1)
I still play Marathon too.
BAH! (Score:1)
What is Myth? (Score:1)
It sounds like a lot of people here are hooked on it... maybe someone should post some good reasons to download it? Or update their web site? Otherwise this story is pretty much only interesting to those who already have it....
Re:What is Myth? (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah great... but what IS this? (Score:4, Insightful)
The article and web site doesn't say what this download IS! Is it a freely downloadable version of the game Myth or do I need to already have the game and this provides some kind of patch to the game?
Hmm. (Score:1, Offtopic)
Tetris is the only game worth playing. Every other game is just a myth.
For the record... (Score:5, Informative)
a) it's awesome to see a game developer supporting a 5 year old game
or
b) why is
This game is NOT being supported by the developers. The game was originally played on bungie.net which is no defunct (after M$ shut it down).
This is a community led support project. Probably the best example I've seen because not only have they updated the code, they've also recreated a free on-line gaming service. I'd say that is a major success story for an aging game community.
Also, for those of you not familiar with Myth (or Bungie games in general), this game is the most revolutionary RTS game as much today as it was in November 1997 when first released. I still haven't seen RTS game that comes close to the user interface and visceral intensity of this game. Although at first glance it appears similar to other games, don't be fooled. An expert Myth player can control a large army with a frightening amount of micro-management. The unit balance offers a WIDE variety of strategies and tactics to be effective, and in general the whole thing is so well designed that subtleties of the game continue d to emerge for years after it was developed.
My only regret is that the community has been reduced to a small pool of expert players and a slightly larger pool of rank-whoring players who only play one game type (generally one of the most boring). To me this game is dead, but I can never forget the greatness of Myth II in its prime. Check out Myth World Cup '99 [macobserver.com] for some of the best films ever.
bungie.net Game Server... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:bungie.net Game Server... (Score:1)
close... (Score:2)
Re:close... (Score:1)
Marius: Probably because it's for Myth: TFL, not Myth 2 I would imagine.
Regardless, awesome project.
Re:For the record... (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:For the record... (Score:2)
Re:For the record... (Score:1)
Nice to see folks keeping Myth alive. (Score:1)
Seventh God (Score:1)
Re:Seventh God (Score:1)
The amount of addons for Myth 2 is staggering. I have every single player addon made, whether it be a minor hack, map pack or full on huge beast like Seventh God. Not got many multiplayer ones since it's hard to find people willing to play anything other than the original maps and bloody WW2.
Well, there goes my weekend of coding (Score:2)
Yeah, but what about us? (Score:1)
When ya gonna take care of us??
How about updating us??
The Myth story (mod up) (Score:1, Informative)
Acording to legend, some staff saw the movie Braveheart and came up with the idea of making a "big bloody war game" based on mythology.
So with just a few staff, the company hacked the 3rd-person shooter game Marathon's code into a 3D real time strategy engine. Myth isn't like anything else (no, it's nothing like Warcraft), it's more like a movie where you move the units and fight bat
Re:The Myth story (mod up) (Score:1)
If you cut and pasted: Nice find!
Interesting about "Braveheart" (the movie, not the piss poor game). Never knew that was actually the main inspiration. Figured it was a factor, and always made the connection when playing, but didn't know it was the main one. God bless them for that!
Radio Shack, at least in Canada, has often had Myth 2 for $10 or less (often times less than $5). I have the Linux version. A friend gave me his Windows version. Very glad he did with all
Re:The Myth story (mod up) (Score:1)
I was working when Bungie.net died, which really saddened me as I'd like to have been there. Somewhere I have a screenshot of the last comments made on there. Very sad day. (Bought a tear to the eye.)
Myth 3 is awful. It lacks all of the class of Myth 2. (never played TFL). Your description is pretty much right on.
Re:Sweet check out the screenshots (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:WHAT'S THERE?!! (Score:1, Offtopic)
Its just a really disgusting pic. Its nothing to big. If your at work I would not click it.
Two words... (Score:1)
In other words, nearly as bad as that certain Website which claims to be about goats.
Re:Gaming (Score:1)
Facts > You
Re:Gaming (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
Exactly. Mod that man up. The sales figures on Loki's games were appalling beyond belief. Crappy shareware Notepad replacements for Windows have sold better.
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
-Erwos
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
Traditionally, commercial games sell the majority of their units within the first 60 days of release. I know you wish Loki were more successful, but they just weren't moving many units.
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
That said, I do wish more publishers would put out titles for Linux (and Mac) but I think this is more a factor of the game engine makers than the game publishers themselves. I mean
Re:Gaming (Score:5, Informative)
If you read about Loki's demise in detail, you'd understand that their upper management was raiding the company's coffers while they were trying to desperately keep afloat. There's no indication that they could not have pulled themselves out of the hole - the staff certainly seemed willing to go through with everything until the bitter end.
Don't get me wrong - the lack of huge numbers of sales also contributed, but to say that was the only reason, or even the primary reason, is just not true. This was a real case of bad management.
-Erwos
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
If anyone's not played MythII on linux, it's highly reccommended.
MythII on Linux (Score:1)
By the way, the Linux version has had OpenGL support for a long time, though on my hardware, it didn't look or perform much better than the software rendering.
Re:Gaming (Score:1)
Re:Gaming (Score:2)
Windows version sucks. I had to install the super-unstable nvidia drivers, and the even-more unstable DirectX 9, and now it takes 3 reboots (one shuts-down the PC when starting windows, second one is in safe mode, third one has no video support, forth one works) to even get into Windows to play the game.
No thanks, I prefer to just type "myth2", and have it running without having to waste 10 minutes get
Re:Don't download it! (Score:1)
I'm sure that's just a slip, but it's Bungie. Hasn't MS owned them for a lot longer than five months? Like a couple of years? I remember going to the Bungie online store a couple of years ago just after they were bought, and one of the guys there had a funny good-bye note, referencing being
'assimilated by the Borg.'
Re:Don't download it! (Score:2, Informative)
However, as of the sale of Bungie to Microsoft, Myth and Myth 2 became the property of Take 2, along with the game Oni (as part of unwinding Take 2's minority stake in Bungie, and as a consolation prize).
Now if only Take 2 would let Bungie fans muck around with the Oni source code...
Re:What is this Myth game all about? (Score:1)
Re:Awesome! (Score:1)
1) Scrolling around the map was totally hosed if you had a certain XP powertoy running (I forget which one. Task something or other). Kill the powertoy, that fixes it.
2) The mouse pointer would flicker, and weird things happened below it. Bits of other parts of the screen appeared below it, clicking was unresponsive.
Number 2 is definitely fixed. Mouse seems to move a little slower now, but it works properly.
Open Source would ruin Myth (Score:1)