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KnoppiXMAME 1.0 Released

Posted by michael on Thu Jun 19, 2003 06:06 PM
from the mame-in-a-box dept.
Classic Games (Games) Entertainment Games
Ant writes "KnoppixMAME is a bootable arcade machine emulator with hardware detection and autoconfiguration. It works automatically on all modern and not-so-modern hardware, including gameports and joysticks. It is powered by Knoppix Debian GNU/Linux, X-MAME, and gxmame." Update: 06/19 23:18 GMT by S : Although there are earlier versions in the release directory, looks like V1.0 hasn't made it onto the FTP just yet. Meanwhile, Jim points out the AdvanceCD image, which is "..also a bootable ISO image of a minimal Linux distribution containing MAME, but weighing in at 16 MB rather than 200 MB so there is more room for ROMs."
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  • Except for a very few gems, the current crop of games has been pretty lackluster.

    It's like all the ideas for games has dried up and all that's left to do is rehash old tried and true ones.

    Played Out.

  • always wondered how to suck the roms off.... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Kaitiff (167826) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:10PM (#6248706) Homepage
    Not being nasty, I just always wondered how to pull the roms off the old nintendo and sega cartridges. God only knows I have a buttload of them laying around. What about Sega CDs too? I assume since I 'own' the cartridges it's legal for me to 'make copies' if I don't distribute them, correct?

    • Re:always wondered how to suck the roms off.... (Score:4, Informative)

      by bedouin (248624) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:21PM (#6248811)
      Save yourself the time and download them like everyone else does. Most of the Genesis games were what, 512kb? Hit up a ROM channel on IRC.

    • Re:always wondered how to suck the roms off.... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:22PM (#6248813)
      You'd need to desolder the ROMs from the cartridge and read them with an EPROM reader. The pinouts are often different from EPROMs, so that's another thing that needs to be dealt with. (with some wires and an IC socket or 2)

      Sega CDs are just CDs. Really easy to copy these days, and I've heard the Sega CD console has no protection (so it can actually run games on CD-R).
    • Back in the day.. in GamePro and the like, I kept seeing ads for a device for a genesis or SNES, that you would plug into the cartridge slot of your console, stick a floppy in to, and stick a cartridge into, and it would copy the cartridge to the floppy, and you could play it on the console, with the copier. IIRC (which I may not) several games spanned a couple floppies.. don't remember how you knew when to change, but I knew it worked. One of my friends came back from Japan with one for his SNES and it roc
      • I had one of these when I was young.

        It's actually not a shady machine that pirates Nintendo gamez. Nintendo actually made a machine that runs 3.5" floppies (they're not exactly 3.5" computer floppies, but close), and also licensed them to be manufactured by other companies (or at least I think it was a proper license). Anyway, these machines were only sold in Asia, AFAIK.

        To answer your earlier question, somehow, the OS will tell you to flip the disk to the other side (or insert a 2nd disk) when it gets to
      • I have one of these called a Multi Game Hunter. Amazingly enough, it works on both Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis. It has a 2.0MO (2 megabyte unformatted capacity - what we call 1.44MB in PC-land) floppy drive in it, which I actually had to replace, unfortunately breaking the little tabs that hold the floppy module together in the process. The floppy module unplugs from the unit itself, so I guess they were planning either to be able to replace them when they broke, or to be able to upgrade to some other f

  • Where's the source code? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Matt Ownby (158633) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:11PM (#6248714) Homepage Journal
    Maybe I am missing something but I don't see source code for this available to be downloaded. I'd be interested in using what he has done for another certain emulator [daphne-emu.com]. A bootable linux CD that has support for most modern hardware is something I've longed for but haven't bothered putting together.

    • Re:Where's the source code? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by fireboy1919 (257783) <rustyp.freeshell@org> on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:25PM (#6248843) Homepage Journal
      Source code would be nice. Knoppix seems to be doing a good job in hardware autoconfiguration, and like most other good projects, Gentoo is stealing it (in fact, there are three different hardware detection libraries available in Gentoo right now). :)

      Seriously, when one project manages to get something Right, shouldn't everybody benefit from it? I'm quite sure that any improvements they've made in either MAME or hardware detection can benefit the entire OS community - or at least the part of it that has a flexible enough distribution to absorb it.

      With every new Linux innovation I'm always thinking, "GREAT! Gimmie source! I want that it my distro!"

      • Erm, well according to the freshmeat page, it's licenced under the GPL. So presumably the source code is available somewhere.

        Perhaps they haven't modified the source code for any of the software they're using, in which case the source code can be found in the appropriate place for each piece of software.

  • Not quite yet. (Score:5, Informative)

    by mcgroarty (633843) <`brian' `at' `brianm.org'> on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:11PM (#6248717) Homepage
    To save people some frustrated hunting, it's not available just quite yet [freshmeat.net], but will be soon.

    Be patient, unlike certain slash editors, who should have made sure the file was actually in the directory they were pointing to. :-)

  • Anti-whore Article Text in case of slashdotting: (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:11PM (#6248720)
    About: KnoppixMAME is a bootable arcade machine emulator with hardware detection and autoconfiguration. It works automatically on all modern and not-so-modern hardware, including gameports, CowboyNeal and joysticks. It is powered by Knoppix Debian GNU/Linux, X-MAME, and gxmame.

    Changes: ROMs can now be put on the CD ISO without having to remaster/recompress Knoppix. /ramdisk/home can also be copied to the root of the ISO to make configuration changes persistent. Networking support is now enabled and supported with xmame and gxmame. XMAME has been updated to 0.69 and gxmame to 0.33. Xv is now the default display mode; it can be changed by using the "dga" option on the boot commandline. The ISO is now 100MB smaller, at 200MB.
  • looking for the download was a great waste of 5 minutes of my life. can i have a refund please? john

  • nice, how about one for Apache? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by imag0 (605684) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:17PM (#6248772) Homepage
    I was thinking a while back how cool it would be for a bootable Apache on cd... Boot the target box up, loads and runs Apache.

    You can change the /htdocs to an nfs mount elsewhere on the network or have it on a local drive (in case for dynamic sites, like using a Wiki, that need to write stuff to disk), configuration changes can be saved and loaded from a floppy as well.

    Would make a nice secure apache install and easy to setup as well.

    All I got. Run with it. Thanks Knoppix guys!

  • While I'll probably get shot in the head for this, I don't like this overspecialization.
    Why run just mame when with gamebase (http://www.gamebase64.com/gb64v2.htm) I have a frontend that will happily organize ALL my emu collections, including N64, SNES, atari c64 and god knows what else. (yes, arcade roms too).
    It provides screenshots, categories, favorites, alternate configs and god knows what else. It runs on windows 98/2000 but it might run under wine or whatnot.
    Now to finish building that arcade cabinet I started 3 years ago... *sigh*

  • Linux MAME vs DOS Mame vs Windows MAME (Score:5, Interesting)

    by AtariDatacenter (31657) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:32PM (#6248892) Homepage
    Is there anyone who publishes a good general speed comparison between these? There are some games that I'd like to play, but they're just too slow to be bearable with my hardware. I'm wondering if the Linux version is, generally, any faster?
  • 16 vs 200 Mb ISOs? Room for ROMs? It would seem you could fit most ever ROM ever issued into (700 - 16) || (700 - 200).

    What are you dl'ing?

    • Re:ROMs (Score:2, Informative)

      by Ryan Amos (16972)
      Actually some of the neo-geo roms are huge.. 64 and 128 megs each. MAME also supports a lot of newer games, which are significantly larger than Ms. Pac-Man. MAME also supports some 5000 or so games, so even if they were all less than 256k, that's still much larger than the size of a CD.

  • Can I buy ROMs? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by akvalentine (560139) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:42PM (#6248961) Homepage
    Is there any one out there that sells ROM collections? I would be interested in buying some, but I can't find any.

    If nobody does sell them, why do the copyright holders care if they are traded, since they aren't losing any revenue?

    • Because they rerelease the games later. Look at Sega Smash Pack for Dreamcast (and PC, if memory serves me correct) -- a bunch of Genesis games emulated. Or the various Namco Arcade Packs. Just because it isn't sold NOW, it doesn't mean that it's theirs.
    • If you have USENET access, you'll be able to find quite a few people willing to burn you an entire set of ROMs for a nominal fee to cover the materials and the postage. Look around alt.games.mame, and check for threads beginning with "[BURN]".

    • Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT buy any rom collections. Almost without exception, anyone that you might find selling emulator roms is doing so illegally. Especially the dimwits on eBay. Full and complete MAME romsets are available on the net if you look hard enough. There are several highly active newsgroups where complete romsets are posted regularly for almost every system imaginable. I know of at least one IRC channel where a few weeks' worth of downloading can get you just about every game released for every

  • Yeah (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:48PM (#6248986)
    I sure hope you have the original games for all those ROMs you play.

    Oh, and this purple shit hurts my eyes.
  • Nice, but not quite as cool as your own Jubei [cmdrtaco.net].

  • How to get KnoppiXMAME 1.0 (Score:5, Informative)

    by drfreak (303147) <dtarsky@NOSpAm.gmail.com> on Thursday June 19 2003, @09:34PM (#6250082)
    Hi everyone, I'm the author of KnoppiXMAME. The file wasn't available yet on ibiblio when I updated the project status on freshmeat. I didn't think it would generate an announcement on the main page, and I certainly didn't think it would be slashdotted!

    I've mailed the ibiblio maintainers and am waiting for a response on the status of the ISO file I uploaded about three days ago. In the meantime you can grab the ISO directly from me by opening an ftp session to yummy.dyndns.org. It's only 128K up, so whoever gets it first please put some mirrors up!

    - Daniel R. Tarsky

  • Don't feed the scammers (Score:5, Informative)

    by dq5 studios (682179) on Friday June 20 2003, @12:54AM (#6251195) Homepage
    There are many many sites out there charging US$100 or more for MAME sets. It is in direct response to their actions that the Tombstone [tombstones.org.uk] Group was formed. Due to some provider problems they were shutdown for a time. To keep the scammers from taking over during their absence, Lazarus [usburners.com] and FreeMAMERoms [freemameroms.com] took over.
    There maybe other burning groups, these are just the ones I am aware of.
    If you want to know what I mean by scammers do a Google for "Emu on CD" for a Brazillian site. (Please don't give them any money)
    • The install it on your computer and be done with it? I don't see any reasons to use the CD other than the convenience of popping it into any machine..
      • I can see the benefit of this over a full linux install. Especially for Windows users. But...

        It'd be nice if you could easily install Knoppix on your hard drive via Windows or Linux, so that it automatically adds option onto your boot manager.

        This will become important as more of these specialised distros come out. No-one wants to look for CDs when their hard drive holds 100GB.
    • I don't know if this particular thingy runs in VMware, but I run regular Knoppix in VMware all the time.
    • What about Plex86?
    • I can't say that this version does (Haven't DLed the whole thing yet) But I've never had a problem running standard issue Knoppix in VMWare ..download the ISO, tell VMWare to boot off it, and away you go

    • Re:Yeah (Score:4, Insightful)

      by jesse.k (102314) on Thursday June 19 2003, @06:50PM (#6248999) Homepage
      or you could download Mame32 and be playing that in windows and actually be on topic.

      Seriously though, the Knoppix boot cd isn't too hard to configure.

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