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Gameboy Emulation on your MP3 Player

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:22 PM
from the now-thats-what-i-wanna-see-more-of dept.
webmind writes "As some may know there is an open source firmware for the Archos jukebox and the iriver h1x0 harddisk mp3 players called Rockbox. now for the iriver version there is also a gnuboy port.. no more lugging around loads of gameboy cardridges, just upload and play."
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  • Sounds great (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Breakfast Pants (323698) on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:24PM (#11794709) Journal
    These things always sound great.. and then the control sucks. SNES emulation on pocketpc's sounds like it would be awesome as hell.. until you find out the direction pad can only press one direction at once and therefore can't get diagonals..
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      --> Nothing wrong with no diagonal control ;)
    • yeah. can't understand whats the point of the limitation to limit it to 4 intentionally(instead of 8).

      with phones too(s60, n-gage has non-selfblocking direction pad so you can get the diagonials, but 6600, 3650, 6630, 7610 have self blocking direction pad. it's a design choice, kicker is that there's no need for it to be self blocking to help the menus and such, as programs on s60 start by default with keyblocking enabled on all buttons and the software can ask for nonblocking mode).

      • My Motorola phone (V300/Triplets) also has a multidirection input keypad. Problem is, since it's not standard it's not part of the spec and it's handled in an additional Motorola API, kind of like sound on Nokia is handled by Nokia-specific APIs, or at least traditionally has been. (I have some Nokia games that work on my Moto, and some that don't.) Consequently, I don't have any games that actually use it, even Splinter Cell or Rainbow Six 3 (and I've tried like four different versions of that.)
    • Tetris (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'd love to see the Rockbox port for the H3x0, who cares about diagnol controls, being able to play Tetris, possibly against multiple opponents using the USB port and hub that it comes with would be totally awesome!
    • That's only crappy old iPaqs and some other models. My Dell Axim (yes, yes, I've turned to the dark side, whatever, I can't help the awsome multi-media features, no, I don't want to start a PocketPC vs. Palm debate), so to continue, my Dell Axim works fine with SNES emulation. And damn is it fun.
  • Ow. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:25PM (#11794723)
    Talk about horrible controls. It's makes the original NES controller look comfortable.
    • Re:Ow. (Score:3, Insightful)

      The original NES controller WAS comfortable. The Famicom controller was a little less precise and didn't have the same feel IMO, but the original NES controller was a joy to use. You just had to develop a useful strategy for holding it. :) What other controller allowed you to get good results in button-mashing games by putting your thumbnail between the buttons and rubbing it back and forth like you were trying to polish something?
      • No way. The only thing more uncomfortable than NES controllers was Atari wrist sticks. The NES 2 button wasn't even diagonal at an angle, your wrist really hurts after a while.

        Only thing good was that it was tough as nails. I have never heard someone needing a NES controller replacement. Nowadays controllers are toast after a year.

        • Dreamcast controllers are horribly uncomfortable as compared to the NES pad. Maybe you were pressing too hard. You don't have to grind it into powder to move your characters around.

          The durability of course WAS the best thing about it. I used to bang mine off the floor when I was really pissed off at a game. BANG! It would sound like something broke, but the controller was fine.

      • Are you kidding?

        I used to rub my left thumb raw on the old NES controllers all the time. They were only good for on run through Contra... tops.

        -Grym

  • Why? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:26PM (#11794733)
    Just buy a gameboy. They're affordable and play all of the games perfectly.
    • Why?

      Are you mad?

      Because it's there [ehistory.com].

      If you can't understand that you have my sympathy for the death of your spirit of adventure. Pushing technology to do completely inappropriate things is part of what makes a hacker a hacker.

      • and maybe a fourth [PC] for viewing my desktop background.
        I have one of those! It features advanced super thin display technology. I glued it on the walls of my bedroom and installed "chipwood.jpg".
  • by tepples (727027) <slash2006NO@SPAMpineight.com> on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:27PM (#11794742) Homepage Journal

    no more lugging around loads of gameboy cardridges, just upload and play.

    This has been possible for a long time. The Game Boy Advance with a GBA flash cart can emulate [webpersona.com] the Game Boy monochrome system; a single flash cart can hold up to 32 MBytes or 64 MBytes of GB ROMs.

    There is also something called the GB Bridge, which translates between GB mono/GBC wire protocol and GBA wire protocol, letting the GBA run GBC games using its GBC hardware, but it doesn't work with most of the newer flash carts.

  • yes but.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:27PM (#11794746)
    a cooler hack would let me play mp3's on my old gameboy.
  • by game kid (805301) on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:27PM (#11794748) Homepage
    ...people will actually play Tetris with something besides the classic tracks? BLASPHEMY! (Unless it's a Lil Jon song that says YEEAAAHHHH after every 4-line combo.)
  • This is another way of using Open Source to difuse the use of hardware and earning $$$ money without the software license.
  • by SubDude (49782) on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:29PM (#11794766)
    Can I get my Gameboy to emulate a cell-phone?
  • by vision33r (829872) on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:34PM (#11794805)
    I've owned 3 ipods that I had to get rid of because of consistent freezing and deteriorating battery life. My iRiver iHP-120 over 1 yr just performs rock solid. Yes, it is not white so noobs thinks its not a MP3 player but I don't have to take out of my pocket and finger circle to find songs. Just 1-2 clicks on the iRiver remote control does a dandy job. Now with people working on modding the firmware this little gem of a MP3 player is like the Linux of MP3 player and Ipod is the Windoze.
  • Path of Technology (Score:4, Insightful)

    by page275 (862917) on Sunday February 27 2005, @12:39PM (#11794833)

    Well, it will come to the point where there is a portable device that contains all features of a PDA, a cellphone, an mp3 player, a game machine ...

    ... Well, just sounds like a notebook with a telephone attachs to it.

    • You're thinking of smartphones. They are PDAs with cellphones, and most of the newer ones can play MP3 audio. The only things keeping them from being game machines are bad controls (what's comfortable for use as a replacement for a Game Boy isn't comfortable for use as a phone) and lack of titles (due to phone network operators that own your phone and the lack of Nintendo branding).

    • You just described the N-Gage, but it's a lot smaller than a notebook PC.
  • Thanks for destroying rockbox's website. Does anyone know if the h1x0 port got anywhere or are they still at the "Debugger goes where?" stage?
    • From what I've read, it boots on a H1x0 and runs, though doesn't play anything because they haven't yet coded the software codec infrastructure. (The Archos hardware Rockbox was originally written for uses a hardware MP3 decoder.)

      I haven't had a chance to play with it, though, as I have a H340, which they haven't yet started porting the port to.
    • Site works over here. You can see their progress here [rockbox.org].
    • It's coming along.

      Several people are working on optimising the codecs to run at >100% realtime, and others are poking at the technical issues of supporting audio buffering and playback.
      There's progress being made bit by bit each day as people have spare time from work/lives/family/whatever.
      Don't expect it to happen overnight, or next week, but it'll get there, probably sooner rather than later. (one codec is close to approaching 100% atm (flac i think). Tremor (vorbis) has some weird bottleneck and is s
    • Gameboy Emulator for iPod [ipodlinux.org]. It's in progress anyway.
    • Re:ipod (Score:2, Interesting)

      just two colors ("on" and "off", as it would happen)

      The mono iPod has four shades at least. The borders between the days in the calendar are a light gray; and the back of the cards in solitaire are a darker gray. Add "on" (black) and "off" and you have four colors. (Incidentally, the Gameboy uses a four-color grayscale display as well.)

      EveryMac has some very detailed tech specs about the iPod; the fourth generation [everymac.com] model has dual 80MHz ARM processors and 32 megabytes of RAM, which I would imagine is more