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Will Sex In Games Ever Be Sexy?
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Zonk
on Fri Jun 03, 2005 04:27 PM
from the as-opposed-to-creepy dept.
from the as-opposed-to-creepy dept.
The Guardian Gamesblog has an editorial up discussing the pitiful state that sexuality is in when it comes to games. Titles like "Singles: Flirt up your Life" and "The Guy Game" are not sexy...they're just embarrassing. From the article: "Historically, you can understand the reasons behind the industry's adolescent handling of adult themes: a younger audience, a male-dominated development environment and, of course, basic pixilated visuals which only ever really allowed a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, 'Confessions of a Bitmapped Bikini Lady' approach to portraying sex."
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Well (Score:2)
Re:Well (Score:2)
Most likely first article most have read all day.
Hah (Score:2)
But anyway, my thoughts...
Sex is a very visceral and a very physically intimate thing. While emotions have been conveyed well before in video games, for the most part it isn't conveyed as well in movies or books for example. This is because of the whole thing about video games being interactive art. I don't doubt a sex scene could be good in a video game. I've had a couple ideas myself. Let's take for granted that we're able to ma
Stupid question in the first place.. (Score:2)
Easy..just need smooth lines (Score:3, Funny)
Example
Man: "I put on my robe and wizard hat....uh oh going limp!"
Woman: "HAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!"
Re:Easy..just need smooth lines (Score:4, Funny)
bloodninja: Baby, I been havin a tough night so treat me nice aight?
BritneySpears14: Aight.
bloodninja: Slip out of those pants baby, yeah.
BritneySpears14: I slip out of my pants, just for you, bloodninja.
bloodninja: Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.
BritneySpears14: Oh, I like to play dress up.
bloodninja: Me too baby.
BritneySpears14: I kiss you softly on your chest.
bloodninja: I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.
BritneySpears14: Hey...
bloodninja: I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl. 8 chicken of the Infinite.
BritneySpears14: Funny I still don't see it.
bloodninja: I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty F*ck of the Beyondness.
BritneySpears14: You are the worst cyber partner ever. This is ridiculous.
bloodninja: Don't f*ck with me bitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.
bloodninja: I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid.
BritneySpears14: Don't ever message me again you piece of ****.
bloodninja: Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.
bloodninja: King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him.
bloodninja: You still there baby? I think it's getting hard now.
bloodninja: Baby?
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BritneySpears14: Ok, are you ready?
eminemBNJA: Aight, yeah I'm ready.
BritneySpears14: I like your music Em... Tee hee.
eminemBNJA: huh huh, yeah, I make it for the ladies.
BritneySpears14: Mmm, we like it a lot. Let me show you.
BritneySpears14: I take off your pants, slowly, and massage your muscular physique.
eminemBNJA: Oh I like that Baby. I put on my robe and wizard hat.
BritneySpears14: What the f*ck, I told you not to message me again.
eminemBNJA: Oh ****
BritneySpears14: I swear if you do it one more time I'm gonna report your ISP and say you were sending me kiddie porn you f*ck up.
eminemBNJA: Oh ****
eminemBNJA: damn I gotta write down your names or something
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Re:Easy..just need smooth lines (Score:5, Funny)
Sally_nicetits: I am wearing a red silk blouse, a miniskirt and high heels. I work out every day, I'm toned and perfect. My measurements are 36-24-36. What do you look like?<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm 6'3" and about 250 pounds. I wear glasses and I have on a pair of blue sweat pants I just bought from C&A. I'm also wearing a T-shirt with a few spots of madras sauce on it from dinner...and it smells funny.<br><br>
Sweethart: I want you. Would you like to screw me?<br><br>
sexg0d: OK<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: We're in my bedroom. There's soft music playing on the stereo and candles on my dresser and night table. I'm looking up into your eyes, smiling. My hand works its way down to your crotch and begins to fondle your huge, swelling bulge.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm gulping, I'm beginning to sweat.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm pulling up your shirt and kissing your chest.<br><br>
sexg0d: Now I'm unbuttoning your blouse. My hands are trembling.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm moaning softly.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm taking hold of your blouse and sliding it off slowly.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm throwing my head back in pleasure. The cool silk slides off my warm skin. I'm rubbing your bulge faster, pulling and rubbing.<br><br>
sexg0d: My hand suddenly jerks spastically and accidentally rips a hole in your blouse. I'm sorry.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: That's OK, it wasn't really too expensive.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'll pay for it.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: Don't worry about it. I'm wearing a lacy black bra. My soft breasts are rising and falling, as I breath harder and harder.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm fumbling with the clasp on your bra. I think it's stuck. Do you have any scissors?<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I take your hand and kiss it softly. I'm reaching back undoing the clasp. The bra slides off my body. The air caresses my breast. My nipples are erect for you.<br><br>
sexg0d: How did you do that? I'm picking up the bra and inspecting the clasp.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm arching my back. Oh baby. I just want to feel your tongue all over me.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm dropping the bra. Now I'm licking your, you know, breasts. They're neat!<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm running my fingers through your hair. Now I'm nibbling your ear.<br><br>
sexg0d: I suddenly sneeze. Your breast are covered with spit and phlegm.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: What?<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm so sorry; Really.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm wiping your phlegm off my breasts with the remains of my blouse.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm taking the sopping wet blouse from you. I drop it with a plop.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: OK. I'm pulling your sweat pants down and rubbing your hard tool.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm screaming like a woman. Your hands are cold! Yeeee!<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: I'm pulling up my miniskirt. Take off my panties.<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm pulling off your panties. My tongue is going all over, in and out nibbling on you...umm... wait a minute.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: What's the matter?<br><br>
sexg0d: I've got a pubic hair caught in my throat. I'm choking.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: Are you OK?<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm having a coughing fit. I'm turning all red.<br><br>
Sally_nicetits: Can I help?<br><br>
sexg0d: I'm running to the kitchen, choking wildly. I'm fumbling through the cabinets, looking for a cup. Where do you keep your cups?
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In the old days (Score:3, Funny)
Second Life (Score:4, Interesting)
Not that I get involved in such things.
Most oddball sex game on the net -- sociolotron (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.sociolotron.com/ [sociolotron.com]
You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:5, Insightful)
Unfortunately, judging by the popular porn promoted by most gamers and netiziens, most people don't have a fucking clue,
It's fine if an 18 year old doesn't know what good sex is, but a 30 year old adult? Give me a fucking break.
99% of porn on the net and on the videos is complete utter crap: Same formula, different girl, staged sex, fake orgasms-- all ending with a goddamn cumshot. Why the hell would you pull out of a great orgasm to cum on the girls face??? BOOOOOORRRRRING!
The audience of this porn obviously doesn't have a fucking clue what 'hot sex' is, and doesn't tire out from bad crap porn.
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:1)
Most porn is utter crap probably because the director (if any) and the cameraman have no idea what they're doing.
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:3, Insightful)
Umm...maybe because porn is a visual medium and you can't SEE someone having a great orgasm. Porn is not an instructional video. It's a way to excite you VISUALLY. This is the same reason you see flicking tongue's in porn during oral sex. Anybody with real experience knows that doesn't really work. But, apparently, it's visually enticing.
I'm not trying to argue that porn is amazing. But you don't seem to have
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2)
You can use your imagination! If you're not using your brain during sex, something is wrong.
I just don't quite understand why so many men feel the urge to watch a man cum... BOOOORRRRING!
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, I don't necessarily pass your standard of sexually experienced being only 19; but I speak for many people (mostly women) when I say:
"What the fuck?"
Pornography in this day and age sets a standard for sexual intercourse that is enjoyed almost exclusively by men. Attention is focused on one thing and one thing only: male pleasure. The only foreplay you
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2)
Interesting, but I have to question the "when there's more than 2 people" statement. That may be temporarily thrilling but it's a recipe for a train wreck.
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2)
Great if it works for you, but I'd bet that the vast majority of people (from any upbringing/social background/religion) are not ready for this and people's outlooks can change given time. Females nearing 30, for example, given the "mother instinct". Or is that just a myth?
I'd guess that same-sex relationships might be more welcoming to such arrangements because the consequences of sex don't have the potential of "popping out a new one", but I wouldn't say that as being universal.
In any case, it's alwa
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2, Funny)
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:4, Insightful)
In response to your second to last paragraph, every man and woman is different. Get over being embarrassed in the bedroom and communicate with eachother. Everyone has a fetish or two and you can get pretty turned on fulfilling your partner's desires and I know they will enjoy it.
Besides, porn is just visual stimuli.
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Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2)
Pornography in this day and age sets a standard for sexual intercourse that is enjoyed almost exclusively by men. Attention is focused on one thing and one thing only: male pleasure. The only foreplay you'll see in 9 out of 10 scenes is oral, usually being performed by the female party. Even taking your clothes off can be sensual if you do it right, pornographers can't even think try.
Nonsense. There is plenty of porn with extended scenes of foreplay, l
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:3, Insightful)
The problem with making "porno for women" or other such things is that porn is the most pirated material on earth, and if you want to make any money you need to go for the biggest market. And there's no such thing as porno for women. I know a lot of women who love porn, and
Re:You need an audience who knows what good sex is (Score:2)
Ummm, I gather from this article that "good sex" being referenced here is more about good video game porn and not, as you are leaning towards, "good sex." Honestly, do we have to explain that real good sex will have to take place among actual humans? The question is, why aren't there really good hardcore porn video games?
fake orgasms-- all ending with a goddamn cumshot
Somehow I think those are pro
Uncanny Valley (Score:1)
The same can be said for films, for example when I watched the Incredibles I WANTED them to s
Re:Uncanny Valley (Score:2)
Re:Bogus Valley and How to Do It (Score:2)
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (Score:2)
Re:Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (Score:4, Insightful)
Not that I think it would have been entirely appropriate to put such a scene in that particular game, but sheesh, I'm 32 years old, I think I could handle it. Games are still for kids. Come to think of it, just about every mass-marketed entertainment out there is -- if not for actual children, then ones that are mentally.
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Michael Ninn's Latex: The Game (Score:3, Interesting)
It was interesting... sort of a dumbed-down (but not completely trivial) combination of Myst, Pink Floyd's The Wall, and a porn flick (it included FMV clips from the porn movie, Michael Ninn's Latex).
What was cool about it was that it immersed you in a surreal world, inside the mind of a lunatic. There was an otherworldly quality to it that by far exceeded what one would expect from a game based on a porn flick.
I count it as the only truly sexy (and not braindead) "adult" game.
Erogenous (Score:2, Interesting)
Unless its the rez vibrator pack. That thing appeals to a different organ entirely.
Sex vs. Sexual tension (Score:4, Insightful)
Stories about sexual tension usually have a lot more depth and layers of meaning to them than stories about sex alone. You can even have very sexy stories that don't actually have any explicit sex at all. More commonly an "artistic" story will have a lot of sexual tension followed by a little bit of sex, as opposed to porn which has a little (if any) sexual tension up front followed by a lot of sex.
There's also always the "less is more" philosophy. It's often the stories with the least actual sex in them, and sometimes the least sexual tension, at least as intended by the author, that ends up with hordes of obsessed fans writing slash about them.
So i expect the sex in video games will be sexy as soon as the developers and/or marketing departments realize it isn't about sex and body parts but about well developed characters and the social interactions between them which create sexual tension.
confusing the issue (Score:2, Insightful)
Stealth Game Sex? (Score:5, Funny)
They'll never see you coming!
Re:Stealth Game Sex? (Score:2, Informative)
That's a really silly thing to say, because that sex (and the pregnancy it produced) was the whole focus of the movie's plot. You know that hero in T2 and T3? "John Connor"? That's where he came from...
In fact, T3 would've been a better film if it had worked in a little time-travel sex as well...
Re:Stealth Game Sex? (Score:2)
I think his point was that there are less clumsy ways of integrating this aspect of John Conner into the films.
Wait, why are we discussing an unconfirmed anecdote in a quote from an article that was attached to a joke post again? :)
MacPlaymate, anyone? (Score:2)
It was a game with a naked woman and a number of "toys" with a self evident objective. This was all the rage at our University Macintosh lab for about 2 days, and then never to be seen again.
Orgasm girl (Score:2)
Orgasm girl [flabber.nl]
Obligatory infocom reference (Score:2)
The Sims 2? (Score:2)
The Problem is with Storylines (Score:2)
hmm (Score:2)
well... (Score:2)
Re:Dumbass (Score:4, Informative)
I can't mod the parent post up, so I'll expand on his comment a little bit.
Hgames (hentai games), are a huge industry in Japan. The range of sexual themes covered by these games is extremely diverse... everything from the standard smut, to bondage, bestiality, scat/piss, big-breasts (big as in beach-ball big.. there's a name for this fetish, I don't know what it is), and rape.
The article author doesn't know what he's talking about. This industry has been vibrant and successful in japan for a long time. The games aren't coy about their subject matter, either. They're unapologetically explicit.
-Laxitive
(and before I submit: this is a pre-emptive stfu to anybody thinking of making some cheesy joke about my handle... er.. nickname).
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Re:Dumbass (Score:3, Insightful)
Golly. That stuff is more puerile than any USA porn ever could be.
Re:Dumbass (Score:2)
They're about as sexy and mature as porn is, which makes sense, because they're porn games.
-Laxitive
Re:Dumbass (Score:4, Interesting)
Dammit, hit submit before I finished saying what I wanted to say.
What the hell is "that stuff" supposed to be?
There are a lot of pretty good natured h-games. Of course, if you've only kept your eye out for the disturbing stuff, then I think that says more about you than it does about h-games.
-Laxitive
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Re:ever play god of war? (Score:1)
Re:Looks like a CAPTCHA farm to me... (Score:2)
That'd be one hell of a script to run 24/7