Being Scared in Games is Needed 266
zombieinthebackofyourcar writes "The Escapist has done an entire issue on why we love and need horror games. Jon Schnaars, an expert in psychology and mental health issues, writes about how we need to be scared to generate pleasure from the game. From the article: 'Perhaps the most important change made in the game mechanics of RE4 was fixing the camera behind Leon, providing a tight third-person shot through which the player could experience the action. Through this move, Leon has become every protagonist from every horror film ever made. He is the lone survivor; steadily trudging into the dark when all our instincts tell us it's a bad idea. And as the player, it is actually us proceeding into the dark, receiving (when we're not getting beheaded) our genre pleasure.'"
Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:5, Interesting)
I don't know about Horror being needed. I sometimes like the idea of playing the monster, when the opportunity presents itself. Heck, I've certainly been one in the online games I play, where I go around slaughtering things to gain experience levels and take the victim's treasures. See it from their point of view. "Horrors, here comes that damn human again! Is there no end for it's thirst for blood? It'll probably go after our shaman some day, then were will we be as a people?"
Really, what we already know is that variety is what games need. If every game was based upon something jumping out of the shadows and ripping your lungs out, we'd have someone telling us what is needed is the safe-and-secure game genre where no harm comes to our valiant little avatar as he/she zips around collecting rings or what have you without repressing some proletariat.
My own take is I have long had a preference for games where the player explores the unknown. There may be danger, there may be reward, but cooling your heels doesn't do much for the sense of intrigue. Exploring dungeons and wiping out baddies, or going on raids day after day, to achieve enough levels to used some object or spell is, as a topic some time back pointed out, is work (you know, that four letter word.)
Ages ago I was totally wrapped up in the old fortran game Empire (eventually released as a PC game), until I'd played it enough to know what to expect. Nothing quite like the first time you're marching your little a into the black unknown only to find the enemy well entrenched, then to gear up your production for an assault. Eventually it was too slow and tedius. Same went for Seven Cities of Gold when you rolled your own New World (which wouldn't be at all like what you see on a normal globe) Exploring the unknown and facing risk is what gets the heart rate going, Grue or no Grue.
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:5, Funny)
Muds/mmorpgs can do this really well with custom NPC responses. Have your orc wander into Hobbiton. At first all the little tweens are curious and interested. When you start slaughtering a few, they begin running after you initiate combat. Before long, simply entering the town brings area-shouts of "Look out, it's $N, the deathbringer!"
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Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:5, Insightful)
Horror is not necessary to a video game and more than it's necessary to Chess. A video game is about a goal that you wish to acheive. Generally, obtaining the goal should imply some sort of challenge, otherwise there would be little point.
Now if one dives into the challenge portion of video games, one does realize that these challenges do cause stress. Usually we're talking about a raised heartrate, higher state of alertness, and concentration. But it can also mean fear, angst, and concern. It all depends on the type of game, and the goal that the player wishes to achieve.
If horror games are do it for you, is there any surprise that the player will expect to be scared out of the wits? But where's the fear in Super Mario Bros? Or Tetris? Wing Commander? Honestly, there's none to speak of. In the case of Wing Commander, the fantasy aspect of becoming a star fighter pilot is the overriding aspect that makes the challenge interesting. All these games are interesting without any hint of fear. Humans need to be stressed, but different people have different stress needs. Recognizing that when creating a game can help a designer make it much more accessable to the target audience.
In short, beware of the pop psychologists.
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:5, Funny)
If you have to ask where the fear is in Super Mario Bros.... then I just can't explain it to you. :)
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:4, Funny)
Actually, there IS fear in Super Mario Brothers (Score:4, Insightful)
One thing that has turned me off to modern games (as opposed to the old-school ones) is that "dying" has no meaning. With virtually continual savepoints and infinite lives, "dying" usually means nothing more than a 30-second setback nowadays. Therefore, I don't feel any excitement, because it really doesn't matter - completely the opposite to the experience of having one life left as you enter level 8-4.
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Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:4, Funny)
If, that is, you happen to be, or live in, a cube. (Looks around his cubicle and shivers.)
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:2)
You sounded like Captain James Tiberius Kirk just then.
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Or a brick.
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The article takes the horror genre and R.Evil 4 as a good example of ways in which identifying with a particular genre informs and explains actions taken on-screen, and really actually saves the storytellers and the viewer some legwork in understanding the character's compulsion to go it alone. In this way, games tend to benefit from this genrefication and this is the point the article indends to make; games need (or benefit greatly from) belonging to a genre.
What idiot posted this to
Re:Horror no, but fear YES! (Score:5, Insightful)
Horror as a genre is not needed unless you like that, but fear is.
I could think of a high emotion chess champion game in which you fear loosing in front of thousands of people for example or perhaps a chess game where you have your house or family lives on the line or if you loose that atomic weapons will be unleashed on your nation. Ok... That is a bit extreme. Lets just say you play a game of virtual chess for 1,000,000 of your gold pieces in World of War craft.
Well... Depending on how much you value your virtual gold, you will be sweating it and seriously thinking about each piece you move. Fear is the main reason behind gambling. It makes the game serious and ups the stakes.
Take if like this... Back in the good old days of Ultima Online, I would be dungeon crawling and then a player killer shows up. Now I could run or fight or I could die and loose my things...
Since I know dying will set me back a bit and make me try a frantic run for my gear and loot after I get rezzed, I have to weigh in my options to whether or not running or fighting will be fun.
And if I do run how much of a chance of actually making it out of the dungeon alive?
Of course throughout the years of playing UO there are plenty of times where I have fought and won, ran away, and sometimes died and had my things taken from me.
But the heat of the battle and the knowledge all my loot was on the line was exciting much more so than say fighting an AI monster who I knew I could simply walk away from if I lost too much health.
Also this applies to FPS games... Everyone was used to the Quake system in which you died and then you instantly respawned without much fear of dying.
However, when Counter-Strike came along you actually got scared of dying because not only did you loose the weapons you saved up money for buying, but you had to sit the rest of the round out until one side one.
That is the best formula for playing any game that is for those who want to fill that "gambler's buzz". The player must have some type of risk in where if they loose they will be punished and loose whatever they had previously worked on.
Personally, as comforting as save games and not loosing your items in MMOGs, a player must face some type of punishment for loosing.
There must be some fear of loosing otherwise we will get bored of a game like it had god mode turned on.
But I would also like to point out if that punishment for loosing is too great, then the game gets pretty tedious pretty fast (otherwise known as loosing over 15 hours worth of leveling when you die at level 59 in EQ arrrrgh!!!!)
Looser (Score:2, Informative)
Where'd that extra O come from? The word is lose. Past tense is lost. Current tense is losing. One O. Loosing is not a word.
Re:Horror no, but fear YES! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:5, Interesting)
When I started playing Doom 3, I thought, "They've finally done it. id has returned to their former glory." However, as I progressed through the game, though the visuals remained impressive and the baddies remained gross, I could predict with absolute certainty when an imp was going to jump out from behind me. I'd look at a doorway, see a few places where a hidden door could open up, back up through the doorway, and give the imp a mouthfull of buckshot. This started to become agonizing beyond belief and I cheated my way through the last four levels or so.
The other sin that Doom 3 committed was the same one that has been used in survival horror games since Resident Evil: You are in a place where there should be more ammo than you could possibly imagine (America, a military research facility), and there are exactly 9 bullets. Clive Barker's The Undying used this cheap tactic, and I blazed through most of the game with only a haste spell and the Scythe just to spite the developers. Whenever a first person shooter makes you want to not bother and just use a melee weapon, it's just because their monsters are so pathetic they would be trivial if you had sufficient ammunition to kill them all. But that's another topic entirely.
Re:Horror, Genre pleasure, the Unknown (Score:2)
No, it's about the game designers designing the game to be played with a variety of weapons, including me
A good start (Score:2)
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I guarantee it'll scare the pants off of you if you get the mod that upgrades the models. Play at night, no lights, turn the sound up.
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Real Horror. (Score:5, Funny)
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I still have nightmares about that.
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Unpleasant, but not the end of the world as long as you get despatch the mind flayer in a timely manner.
The rest can be dealt with at leasure. Holy water and Magicbane on the Ls followed by beating the disenchanter with naked hands. Does the trick nicely. Just do not forget to put your gloves back on after that. The closest time I have been to win the game I died in the most stupid manner by forgetting to put them back on and smacking a c with my bare
Re:Real Horror. (Score:4, Funny)
Can you say summon storm?
Re:Real Horror. (Score:3, Insightful)
Kids these days. All their fancy electronics. Missed out on the great, imagination-driven, adventures.
Here [nethack.org].
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Doom (Score:2, Insightful)
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Really, it all depends on how much you allow yourself to be immersed in the game. Pick a scary movie - any scary movie - and I won't bat an eyelash (provided there are no spiders, of course). It just doesn't phase me. Doom 3 scared the absolute shit out of me at times - which made me love it all the more.
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Well, that's two things it has going for it that Doom 3 doesn't: it has some scary parts, and it's fun.
And yes, F.E.A.R. was scarier than both of them.
Re:Doom (Score:3, Insightful)
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Cheap: Doom 3 or any movie where a cat jumps on the hood or the car. These ones work on surprising you, Doom 3, works until you figure out how it works. Half way through it it didn't scare me as much.
Creepy: F.E.A.R., Silent Hill, or for movies The Ring, Exorcist, Omen, etc. I personally like these better, I guess they use anxiety instead of surprise. In F.E.A.R. when you enter the hallway where the door closes (you know the one), i
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Not sure about you, but the price of the PS3 scares the shit out of me. :)
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And no amount or research by anybody can change that, and I doubt I'm alone.
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Maybe you are alone.
So terribly, frighteningly, alone.
whooOOOOoooOooooo!!!!!
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If only they were really doing that [dhs.gov] for 'cognitive balance' and not for blind allegiance...
Being Drawn Into The Game (Score:2, Insightful)
RE4 wasn't scary (Score:3, Insightful)
And for God's sake turn off the light, otherwise it's like watching The Grudge during the day with the light streaming onto the TV screen.
Re:RE4 wasn't scary (Score:2)
Ah, the man's a genius. I meant Silent Hill 2.
I'll show myself out...
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This can be extended to other genres- (Score:2)
Gain without potential for loss makes gain worthless. The adrenaline pumped when you're in a situation to lose your 'stuff' is more potent than the scant ammount pumped when you're in a situation where you have to run back to your body, losing maybe 10 minutes of playtime.
Of course, this wouldn't be feasible in current MMOs where your equipment makes up a majority of your combat prowress.
And in other games, where you lose experience instead of equipment.. well, that's just plain discouraging. I
Oh, it still works in MMO's (Score:2)
Will I get back in time to loot it?
Will it have dropped that zonewide uber item I wanted?
Will someone have just snagged the leet random drop, but left everything else on? I'll never know...
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Then, you can take the unimaginative route and play a melee character (whose power only varies incrementally from level to level), but in that case you're probably not in it for the challenge anyhow.
The other advantage of the exp loss system is that
Adrenaline (Score:2)
Horror PC Games (Score:3, Informative)
Subtle Horror (Score:5, Interesting)
And it wasn't any kind of gore, or zombies, or anything like that. Well, lots of things like that, but that wasn't the main cause -- it was the foreboding atmosphere.
Abandoned schools are scary. It taps into childhood fears. Seeing the 'regular' world turned upside down and redecorated with body parts and rust is deeply unsettling. The lack of regular communication with other characters in the game, the ambient sound effects - my god, the sound effects work in that game was good. I remember standing in what I think used to be a gymnasium but in the 'other' world, and just standing there, listening to this distant clank-clank-clank of some unseen machinery. I left my character standing there for awhile, just taking in the sound, and I truly began to feel disturbed.
It was shortly after that I descended the ladder to the first full-on satanic ritual looking setpiece in the game. This gigantic cucumber with four legs ran out and split in half as it opened its mouth, revealing about a million teeth, and i swear to fucking god I actually dropped my controller and shrieked like a little girl.
Good times.
Re:Subtle Horror (Score:2)
I'll always have a thousand fond memories of playing (or actually, watching) those games in the dark with a few of my close friends. Truely haunting, and truely a blast.
Re:Subtle Horror (Score:4, Interesting)
I strongly recommend you play Silent Hill 2, regardless of your genre preferences. It will be worth every minute and dollar spent.
=== YOU WERE WARNED ===
I would wholeheartedly agree, and add the following points --
- Silent Hill and its immediate sequel gave me nightmares for months. Some combination of factors and elements resonated very strongly with something in me that's probably quite broken.
- Your comment re: the unseen machinery touches on something psychological that I haven't been able to identify. Even when you were utterly alone, you could always hear something else - footsteps just beyond your vision in the fog, a murmered conversation from a source you can't quite locate, distant subway cars from a platform you can't seem to find - Silent Hill worked hard to reinforce the point that you weren't just alone in an uncaring Hell -- you were cut off.
- The story in the first game was pretty crazy. I had to read some plot analyses before I could take it all in. After I did, I regretted my curiousity. The second game, however, truly floored me. I will always remember, right before the end when James finds Angela ascending the flaming staircase in the middle of the inferno, as it is the one time the player (and James) is let in on the extent and nature of Angela's personal hell:
*The tone of Angela's voice suddenly changes.*
Angela: Or maybe you think you can save me? Will you love me? Take care of
me? Heal all my pain?
*James doesn't respond.*
Angela: That's what I thought. James. Give me back that knife.
*Angela reaches her hand out towards James.*
James: No... I, I won't.
Angela: Saving it for yourself?
*Angela begins to walk up the fiery staircase.*
James: Me? No... I'd never kill myself....
It's hot as hell in here.
Angela: You see it too? For me, it's always like this.
It's important to understand the context of what Silent Hill (the place) is in order to understand the characters' reactions to it. Silent Hill is not a simple Hell, but an extremely personal one - every person in it perceives it differently. Where as James sees (while lucid, anyway) a colorless, abandoned, dusty shell of the Silent Hill of his memories (reflecting the loss of color and definition in his life when his wife passed away), Angela perceives every detail as a reflection of her horrific victimization - everything on fire, bloody pistons oscillating in and out of the walls, automatic assumption of shame and guilt in any lengthy conversation. It's amazing how it all gets woven together into the same place.
And the manequins and the pyramid heads? Cripes, don't get me started.
M
Re:Subtle Horror (Score:2)
I'm not surprised - apparently we humans strongly associate olfactory sense with memory. Everyone has a few certain odours that 'take them back' instantly to a different time in the past. For me its gasoline - always think of my grandfather's huge fire hazard of a garage.
I played Silent Hill as your friend did, in the dark, all alone.
Rescue on Fractalus (Score:4, Informative)
3:15 am in front of a 12" television with all the lights off and sound cranked up.
Land spaceship to pick up survivor.
Survivor has a pink helmet on... white = good guy, green = evil alien, pink = ???
well we're not going to let him in until I get a better look.
">knockknockknockknockknockknock"
"gonna have to..."
Big alien head appears on my cockpit and starts trying to bash in the window.
"BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!"
AUUUUUUUUGGGHHH!! TURN ON THE SHIELDS TURN ON THE SHIELDS as in my haste, my hand bashes my Pepsi(tm) can knocking it across the room until I can hit 's' and fry the sucker.
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"Boo" horror we pretty much have down. Besides "Rescue..." this has been used in Resident Evil, Doom, Unreal, etc to great effect.
"Creepy" horror we got with Silent Hill to great effect.
But the kind of deep "horror" that makes you lie awake at night? I dunno. I submit that that's only doable in books/movies because it's passive entertainment and so the viewer/reader is dragged along. But in interactive entertainment it's like negative reinforcement. You're going to have to do something to keep the player wanting to go forward while whacking them with things they dislike. (Unless you're into that sort of thing... or Goth... Kinda like that HR Giger game way back when... or... heh... Beyond the Forbidden Forest. Okay game but most of the fun was watching the grotesque ways you would die)
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Ok, thanks. Thanks a lot for that. I thought I had forgotten that fucking spider. Ughgghghghg
Re:Rescue on Fractalus (Score:3, Interesting)
I found the System Shock series pretty scary, and I'm having great fun playing "Call of Cthulu" right now (more than I expected, actually). Both mix traditional plot techniques in the gameplay pretty seamlessly, and I'd have a hard time finding 'deeper' horro
Proceeding ahead of the player (Score:3, Interesting)
You, as the player, control a character who is seen in a third-person view like what's described in the summary. This character is actually moving ahead of "you," though. The POV of the game is actually that of another character that walks behind the character that you control. That other character is basically defenseless, however -- think screaming chick from a horror movie. It's the job of the character you control to protect the POV character. So you fight the zombies and what-not with the character from a third-person POV, but every so often the zombies are trying to reach over the shoulder of the character you control, to claw at the POV. Cue all sorts of nasty death scenes where you get to watch your protector be overrun and killed, even as your own POV camera flips sideways to the floor...
been done in a small way, manhunt (Score:3, Informative)
On a side note the reporters voice was debbie from Sealab 2021.
Puto
To summarize... (Score:2, Funny)
So essentially he's saying "This bitch gives good behead."
I don't think that means what you think it means.. (Score:2)
I saw it as exactly the opposite. Resident Evil was never known for it's camera freedom, but placing it in a fixed position behind Leon essentially removed all the fright from any live action moments (at least for me), relegatin
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I've since played RE2 t
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Couldn't agree with you more. This was the first moment I remember ever when playing video games where I literally jumped. Loved the game
Ever Was It Thus (Score:2, Insightful)
Hell, the horror of just thinking about it now makes me want to shrivel up and die.
Emotions in media (Score:3, Insightful)
When Doom 3 came out, I upgraded my video card, setup my 5.1 sound system, and dimmed the theater lights. My friends would gather round as I played. People would fidget, jump, dodge, and squeal as things jumped out at them. The game was truly emotional for the people playing and watching. Now THAT is entertainment.
I had a similar experience with Shadow of the Colossus and Half-Life 2. Shadow made you hate what you were doing to those beautiful creatures. Half-Life 2 made you feel like you were in 1984 (the book, not the year!).
The biggest problem is getting enoug content without making the game repetitive. Shadow and Doom 3 both had this problem. But overall, making a provocative interactive story is difficult to do, but it is definitely a winning formula.
Horror is NOT fear of the unknown. (Score:5, Funny)
So you step in, and suddenly your radio begins generating static. You ran out of health drinks, and then you hear the screeching noises. You turn to the left, and it's a dead end. On the other side of the fence there's these arachnid creatures, and you only got your gun. Shoot the wrong target, and you'll get slain. Ah, isn't that beautiful... more dogs cut in half and they just started howling.
But wait, the horror's not finished. The horror only starts when you turn off the game and go to sleep, and notice how your clothes mysteriously resemble a beheaded bloody mannequin, and the noises out the street remind you of the radio static ringing. You try to sleep, read a book, and slowly you get tired.
But wait, the horror's not finished. Because you start dreaming about the game you were just playing a few hours ago...
You wake up and try to sleep again and have a heck of a stomach ache.
But wait, the horror's not finished. You remember that your mother asked you to show her your school grades, and you get them today.
Bulls*t (Score:2)
Two of my favorite Game Experiences Scared Me (Score:2, Insightful)
I played those for hours on end and kept getting drawn back in by the story and fear and wanting to know what was next.
I grew up a horror-loving kid - watching all the B flicks with my friend in our dark basements. IT, The People Under the Stairs, Wax Museum, House, all the Nightmare's that plagued Elm Street
Behind the subject scenes. (Score:5, Funny)
"Don't these friggin' idiots EVER look behind them? Especially after four of their friends bought it that way."
And don't get me started on body disposal methods for supernatural psycho killers. These numbdumbs just bury Jason then act all surprised when he comes back a month or two later. HELLO!, you had to kill him ten times over just get him in the grave.
You can only heavily stun such a creature at best. Should one of non-idiot characters manage this then the correct thing to do is to bind ankles and wrists with HEAVY chain or rope then thoroughly dismember and slice and dice the creature. If intelligence was employed in the binding then the fact that the creature lives through this should pose no problem. Don't let a hack writer take your life at the last minute. The pieces should then be thoroughly burned and the ashes scattered in separate bodies of water. Any solid pieces should be encased in concrete and likewise scattered. Throughly soaking any remaining pieces in holy water is optional but can't hurt. NOTE: Do NOT put holy water on an intact Creature; it'll just wake up angry.
The case of the Liquid Metal Terminator was one of the rare cases of correct Super Creature Body Disposal. Sumbitch probably wound up in 40 different cars. RoboCop 2 had a good Creature Dismantling but they botched the job by dumping the pieces where his buddies could put him back together again. And those IDIOTS who thought running Christine through a car-crusher was sufficient, they should have checked with the Connors.
Maybe I should start one of those Evil Overlord type lists for Super Evil Creature Combat.
Scary letters (Score:5, Funny)
I've been there.
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I've had nightmares with a yellow lowercase 'c' when I was a beginner. The funny thing is, it was a giant threedimensional lowercase yellow 'c' chasing me.
They both startle and bore the shit out of me (Score:4, Interesting)
I admit, when I play horror games - I should say, when I played horror games, since I've gotten so bored with them - they do startle me. They scare me when I'm not bored to tears by their pathetic hackneyed plots stolen from B horror movies. So basically what I get out of it is a bunch of boredom punctuated by occasional moments when my heart is wondering what the fuck I'm doing to it.
YOU may need horror games. The author of the article may need horror games. I'll pass. What I need is more racing games that don't suck :)
Oblivion Had its Moments... (Score:2)
SUmmary is not descriptive of the article. (Score:3, Interesting)
There are some classic games that are so much fun, not so much from a playability standpoint but from an entire experience. I am a great fan of the Max Payne, Thief, and Splinter Cell series. Lots of great suspense and dark gameplay, but they pulled you into their environments, which is one of the key factors in the success of games of that nature.
Honestly, I think that the editors need to be a bit more accurate in the description of the articles. I was about to go on a huge rant about the bullsh*t that we need to be scared in order to derive pleasure from games until I actually RTFA.
Taking a date to a horror film (Score:2)
Horror games (Score:2)
Characters insist on staying in a dangerous situation or location - like an abandonded summer camp - until every single person (save one) is killed by a single protagonist.
When characters find a basement, they proceed to go down regardless of whether it's important to waste time with the basement at all.
If there is a basement, there should be no lights available.
When a toolshed, garage, or cache of supplies is
Stephen King said it best (Score:5, Interesting)
Do you REALLY want to be scared...... (Score:5, Funny)
You've been on that game for two hours straight? I just DARE you to go past the boss battle, after you defeated it, without saving.
For even more thrill, tie some catnip and a string to the memory card while it's still in the system. Set the game to autosave and then let the cat play with the string.
RE4 (Score:2)
Ultima Underworld (Score:2, Insightful)
Then later Ultima Online was scary because dying actually cost you something. I agree with the article. If a game can scare you then so much the better.
We don't need horror (Score:2)
I play World of Warcraft on a PvP server. I like the element that while I'm playing the game, at any moment I can be attacked from behind by the oposing faction (and very frequently am). It adds a whole dimension of threat and urgency to quests, and makes the game less mechanical to play because at any time, my plans to quest can be turned into PvP action.
scariest game that nobody has ever played (Score:4, Interesting)
there are a few very scary moments in it.
there's a scene where you are diving into the wreckage of a sunken cruise ship, and you get inside of it and its pitch black, no sunlight can filter down that deep, and when you're actually in the ship, all light is blocked out. the water is murky. your flashlight allows you to see only a scant few feet in front of you. you know there are sharks in the area, and in the gameplay segments, there is actually only one music: a theme that plays when sharks (which can eat you) are around. so, as you explore the ship, you come across a doorway, and you open it, and its an old indoor swimming pool... and you hear the shark theme, which, as a gamer playing it, lets you know that there are threats nearby, and that you should be very very cautious and try not to panic, and that something big and scary could lunge for my throat at any moment.....
my experience with this area was one of the few times a game has honestly scared me. its one of those moments where I was so immersed that I forget i was playing a game. its a tight, enclosed level, and i hear the sharks, and I know that i need to be on the lookout for threats.... and then, all of a sudden, i run smack into a ghostly white face, illuminated by my flashlight and made more scary by the murky water.......
after jumping up and dropping my controller, because i totally wasn't expecting to find any ghastly apparitions, i realize that what I'm looking at is not a ghost, but a statue, remnants of the luxurious decorations of the cruiseliner. nothing as out of the ordinary as I'd thought, but the atmosphere, and the fact that I knew i was in dangerous waters, and then the running smack into the thing just made me jump and still gives me the heebeejeebees. truly effective game design... and unfortunately, in a game that almost nobody has ever played.
RE4? Redhat Enterprise 4 is a game? (Score:2)
I can see it now, "Hey, dude, did you see that killer init script I just fragged?"
Uhmmmm... no. (Score:2)
Wow, I thought that I'd really been enjoying playing through New Super Mario Bros and Mario Kart DS since getting my DS lite, finding all the secrets, unlocking all the karts, etc., but now I realize that since I wasn't scared I was actually bored the entire time, and not completely engrossed as I had thought.
Come to think of it, this article rules out all of my favorite games, except the original Half Life.
I guess I'd better go play a real entertaining game, like Doom 3... that's unfortunate, the last
Why I love UO (Score:2, Funny)
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Meh. Give me Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (Score:4, Informative)
On the other end of things, there's Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem . The Gamecube was an odd choice of platforms for this grown-up title, but this game alone is nearly enough to justify picking up an old used 'cube. The gameplay was solid and fun, but it was always in service to the story: even your most basic actions were affected by a choice that you make in the first few minutes (which God you're aligned with affects how you interact with different monsters).
On top of that, they had a brilliant sanity system - as you lost sanity, they'd introduce subtle audio effects (using the surround sound to do so), and introduce visual distortions and hallucinations (like blood dripping and statues' heads turning to follow you). As you truly lost it, they'd gradually escalate to doing things like playing tricks where you'd hallucinate walking on the ceiling of a room you've just entered - or even alarm you by simulating a system crash, or pretending that you've just reached the end of the game, without resolution (showing you an add for the fictional sequel). There's another one where they simulate someone playing with the volume control on your TV's remote - first you think, "Hey! Where's the remote?" before thinking a split second later, "Hey, that's not what the volume control feedback looks like on my TV!" There are dozens more, they're truly inspired and some of them will get you.
If you have not played this game and you want a truly scary experience, give it a look. It's the best game I've played since Deus Ex (for a different genre game with a brilliant, driving story line). It's one of maybe 5 reasonably modern games that I'd say are truly don't-miss masterworks.
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