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Five Days Locked in a Room With GTA IV
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CmdrTaco
on Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:29 AM
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bippy writes "Five days, one game. The Rocky Mountain News has a write up of five days spent playing Grand Theft Auto IV recently in a San Francisco hotel.
It ends:
'In Grand Theft Auto IV the story isn't just an amalgam of cut scenes and cleverly written dialogue, it's the experiences I create, too. It's now, watching Niko stand, his shoulders slumped, that the depth of this game finally hits me.
Niko's journey, the one crafted by Rockstar, may have ended, but Niko's adventures in the story I am creating have just begun.'" The most anticipated game in a while, to be sure. I'm certainly looking forward to busting some heads and jumping ramps.
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What next? (Score:2)
Looking forward to this one.
Re:What next? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:What next? (Score:5, Funny)
They go 60's camp. You are a super villains side kick, dressed in fluro spandex you have to try to dominate your city before the other super villain gangs do, all the while evading police and the occasional vigilante dressed in a leotard with a really cool utility belt.
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Karma Girl (Score:2)
If that's what you want, read Karma Girl, by Jennifer Estep [jenniferestep.com]. It's superhero chick lit.
Re:What next? (Score:5, Insightful)
They go 60's camp. You are a super villains side kick, dressed in fluro spandex you have to try to dominate your city before the other super villain gangs do, all the while evading police and the occasional vigilante dressed in a leotard with a really cool utility belt.
A sandboxy Batman game would also be pretty good.
I would also buy "Grand Theft Auto: Mushroom Kingdom", a self-parody with Wario running around outrunning Toadstool cops and the like.
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Profit!
Re:What next? (Score:5, Interesting)
Chicago gangs of the 1930s? (I know it's been done by other games, but I'd love to see a GTA version.)
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Kids these days...
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Sort of like Team Fortress, with cool cars.
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hmmmm... (Score:5, Insightful)
Is it just me or are people getting way too excited about this game?
Now before everyone instantly mods me troll, I'll point out that I own GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas and loved two of those three games (I'll leave it to you to guess which ones), but I never saw them as deep or as art. I saw them as a fun way to pretend to be a gangster and run around causing mayhem.
Yet this GTA comes out and people are practically wetting themselves over what is going to be the same thing but shiny? Don't get me wrong - I'm sure it'll be a good game and win lots of GOTY awards, but does anyone honestly think they'll see a lot they're not expecting?
Re:hmmmm... (Score:5, Interesting)
GTA is still the finest sandbox-game series, of course we're eager to see it. And the incremental upgrade approach works fine for me so long as we keep getting new storylines. Odd games tend to introduce game mechanics and even ones provide a large world in the game; this title improves mechanics, and the next one will probably have the large world again, AND the new complexity. At least, that's been the pattern so far. So yes, I think that people are justified in being excited.
Personally, I want to see new things done to continue improving replay value. I will keep buying the games if this happens; otherwise I'll get tired of them eventually. It hasn't happened yet, though.
Give me split-screen and/or LAN play, and I can keep the game fresh basically for eternity.
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I guess you're right. I mean no disrespect to people who are looking forward to it --- it just seems that GTA is going the way of FIFA, which worries me slightly.
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what... the... fuck... ?
they just released the first game in 3.5 years. aside from downloadable content, the rumours are that the next full game won't appear until the next generation of consoles.
so I ask again: what... the... fuck... ?
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GTA is still the finest sandbox-game series
Civilization 4, Fallout or The Elder Scrolls are better candidates for the "finest sandbox-game series" than GTA will ever be.
Not that GTA doesn't fill it's own little crime-and-mayhem niche or won't be fun or anything.
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You'd have an argument if those are sandbox games, but thats highly disputable.
Elder Scrolls has the best argument, but I would argue both Fallout and Elder Scrolls are actually simply RPGs with larger worlds than most computer versions. The thing is that even if you're doing nothing, you're still advancing one of the primary components of the game/plot (gaining XP/equipment whatev
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I respectfully disagree on the Elder Scroll claim. I tried to get into it, being one of the highest rated games on the 360 ever, but I simply could not. The world doesn't feel like a world, and side quests do not feel like they are part of the world, allow me to explain.
Oblivion has a very straightforward main storyline, and one can follow this through without doing the vast majority of side quests. The characters in it are well voice-acted, but the animation and the characterization was simply very poorl
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Civ4 requires one to expand and progress fairly efficiently lest one be quickly wiped out by barbarians or opponents. Sure, there is room to try something different each time but generally, one must be far more concerned with doing the right things rather than doing new things or one will not have the time, safety or resources to play around.
The Elder Scrolls allows as much time as the player wants for screwing about but does not provide enough avenues for entertaining oneself without doing a fixed missio
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Rockstar really did go all out with the story and plot twists with this game and it could easily be turned into an awesome movie.
Near the end of the game when you have to make certain decisions which have different outcomes for Niko's life,
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censorship (Score:3, Interesting)
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There was a time when people said that FPS games would never catch on with consoles, but dual-analog controls proved them wrong. RTS games and MMOs are another two PC-centric genres, but maybe it's only a matter of time until their console equivalents get worked out as well.
They've caught on but I'm still hostile to the controllers. I can play Oblivion well enough with the standard 360 controller, though I did move like a drunken Bush on a Segway for the first few hours. But the shooters I've tried playing on it, ugh! I'm going to have to put it on "arthritic grandmother" difficulty mode to get anywhere, I lack all accuracy. Give me a mouse and keyboard, I'm just hopelessly used to the idea of playing shooters hunched over a keyboard with the screen a foot from my face, ready
Depth... (Score:2, Insightful)
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PC version? (Score:2, Interesting)
I just checked Wikipedia, but only the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions were listed.
My Impressions (Score:5, Interesting)
My main complaint is that GTA IV is just a souped up version of the previous GTA games. You play a gangster who goes around breaking laws and doing gangster stuff. The missions are basically the same since the first GTA III - Steal this, muder that, etc. Also there are some frame rate issues, I notice FPS lagging on some occasions. Strange because Burnout looked better and didn't have these problems.
Overall it's a great game. But in many ways it's the same game you've been playing for years.
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You have to feel bad for Take Two though; a leak after all the hype and so much care, and all the kids that would have camped out to get it first but now know they're seeing it last because they don't know how to pirate games. That'd be a bummer.
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So they didn't much care about the game being realistic then...
IGN Review (Score:5, Informative)
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/827005/grand-theft-auto-4/videos/gta4_review_042508.html [ign.com]
They have proclaimed it the best game of the decade.
Text review: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869381p1.html [ign.com]
Yay (Score:5, Insightful)
What about Wii (Score:3, Interesting)
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And they most certainly do make enhancements to the PC versions. They all have higher resolution textures than their console counterparts. They all support using a mouse in a reasonable fashion while also using a controller for driving/flying. You can configure every single key, and you never have to deal with unbindable keys or unchangeable binds. If anything R* probably is one of the best development houses at making decent PC ports of titles that started on a console.
Still, it's certainly disappointing how little they appear to care for PC gamers.
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Gotta Say It... (Score:3, Funny)
No you can't download one. Second Life does not count.
The Hype Machine (Score:3, Interesting)
Other games that were overhyped and failed to satisfy me: Oblivion, World in Conflict, SupCom, Prey... Oh sure, I was stoked to be playing the latest and greatest on really good hardware, but after a couple of hours the shine starts to wear off and then it becomes a job. I have tried to play these games, really tried to finish them, but I just can't. And then, buyer's remorse sets in--it's a viscious cycle because you feel like you have to play all the way through regardless of enjoyment because it cost 50 damned dollars and you have to get your money's worth, right? I mean, come on, what's wrong with me? Why aren't I shivering in adulation of these gods of the gaming universe? Everyone tells me and I keep hearing how awesomely, Earth-shatteringly, mind-blowing these games are. I've got plenty of horsepower in my rig to run them, so it's not that; I know the developers worked their collective asses off making them, so quality isn't an issue either. I guess I just finally learned to stop buying games based on the "objective" reviews, and once I realized that is when I let my magazine subs lapse.
xx01dk's law: All. Game. Reviews. Are. CRAP.
-and its corollary-
Thank goodness for BitTorrent and leaked/pirated releases.
Do not misunderstand me here; if I like a game that I download, I will go out and buy it. If I do not, it gets deleted and I save my money. In addition, just like my favorite musicians, I will buy outright almost any game that is made by my short list of trusted companies/developers. (i.e.: Frank Delise, Sid Meyers, Stardock, Valve, and Rockstar)
Where was I. Oh yes, the hype machine for GTA4. I'm going to buy it but not because of any stupid review. I own GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas and have played them all through because they were fun. I don't even care that GTA4 won't be out for PC anytime soon because the content is what matters here, and it will still be fresh (to me). I like what Rockstar does, so I will support them by buying their product sans reviews (I actually liked Postal, I think PCG gave it a 0 out of 10 rating...).
Queue fanboy flame wars in 3... 2...
Solution (Score:4, Funny)
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I dont like this (Score:4, Insightful)
not getting old? (Score:3, Interesting)
Never had a chance to play San Andreas but many of the reviews said it basically became boring and repetitive. It also didn't help that while GTA3 was a sort of era-less generic mob movie and Vice City was an unabashed homage to 80's cheese, San Andreas was based around 90's gangsta rap and thug movies with a suitably nauseating soundtrack. And because it didn't bring a whole lot new to the table, it didn't feel as fresh as 3 and VC, got boring more quickly.
So, is GTAIV really all that? What have they done to keep things fresh and new? How does it keep from feeling like the same ol' same ol'?
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