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Buffy MMO Announced, Firefly MMO Delayed

Posted by Soulskill on Thu Sep 04, 2008 01:05 PM
from the you're-my-kinda-stupid dept.
Zonk brings word that Multiverse, the developer who in 2006 acquired the rights to make a Firefly-based MMO, has announced that a Buffy: The Vampire Slayer MMO is now under development. An interview with Corey Bridges from Multiverse seems to indicate that the Firefly MMO, though delayed, is not dead. He also provides a few details on what the Buffy game will be like. Quoting: "What we're doing with the Buffy game then is releasing it in stages. It will first be a flash-based virtual world, with the full Multiverse server behind it. ... So it will start as a 2D flash-based MMO where you can go on missions and interact with other players. This will extend even once we have the 3D client working, where you can both interact with players using the other point of view. We're going to have these shared spaces where 2D and 3D people can interact. All of this will come out in phases, with staged gameplay coming out. We're sort of blazing a path with this concept, and we're really interested in what this might mean for players of the two versions. ... I'd love to get [a public beta] out to players by the end of the year."
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bishiraver writes "Multiverse has announced that they have gained rights to a Firefly Massively Multiplayer Online Game. Multiverse is a company started by several former Netscape employees, and they have developed an engine/network that works for all of their games. They intend to break into the MMO industry by being an MMO publisher of sorts. By standardizing, they can provide a less expensive alternative to the tens of millions of dollars and several years it takes to currently develop an MMO. They have said they will hire out a studio to build the game for them. Corey Bridgets, Massive's Executive Producer, says: 'If you're doing science fiction, you have to really think it out and create an incredibly rich environment that is compelling in its own right, and worth exploring and going back to week after week. That's what Joss Whedon did with Firefly.'"
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  • Buffy? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SomeJoel (1061138) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:07PM (#24877121)
    This seems like kind of a flimsy IP to base an MMO on. Aren't there dozens of better choices?
    • Re:Buffy? (Score:5, Funny)

      by moderatorrater (1095745) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:12PM (#24877209)
      Agreed. I would think that an IP based on a single person in each generation would make for a lousy MMO. Everything in the Buffyverse is about exceptions to rules, and that's believable when you follow a few characters around. But when you get into an MMO environment, the exception quickly becomes the rule as everyone takes the "chosen one" class or the "vampire with a soul" class.

      If only there were an IP they could acquire where it's a whole ass-load of people in far flung areas, maybe like the old west, or space or something, where small groups of people move around performing missions. That's the sort of IP that'd make for a great MMO, IMHO.
      • Re:Buffy? (Score:5, Funny)

        by Babbster (107076) <aaronbabb@NOSPAM.gmail.com> on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:25PM (#24877439) Homepage

        Agreed. I would think that an IP based on a single person in each generation would make for a lousy MMO. Everything in the Buffyverse is about exceptions to rules, and that's believable when you follow a few characters around. But when you get into an MMO environment, the exception quickly becomes the rule as everyone takes the "chosen one" class or the "vampire with a soul" class.

        To be fair, BTVS ended with the creation of thousands of mini Slayers. And, as a bonus, it would finally give dudes a good excuse to play a hot chick in an MMO.

        • Re:Buffy? (Score:5, Funny)

          by monopole (44023) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:59PM (#24878015)

          Forget slayer, I wanna be Willow's girlfriend!!!

        • Re:Buffy? (Score:4, Funny)

          by russotto (537200) on Thursday September 04 2008, @02:27PM (#24878447) Journal

          To be fair, BTVS ended with the creation of thousands of mini Slayers. And, as a bonus, it would finally give dudes a good excuse to play a hot chick in an MMO.

          Nope, they're verifying age and nationality. If you're an American guy, you only get to play the buttmonkey. (on the plus side, some of the women will be playing Faith...)

          • Re:Buffy? (Score:5, Funny)

            by Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) on Thursday September 04 2008, @04:08PM (#24879977) Journal

            Preferring to run around behind a female ass instead of a male one, for hours after hours, days after days, months after months, and now, years after years, destined to be decades after decades, isn't enough reason to always play a hot chick?

            City of Heroes, build slider max, waist slider min, boob slider max, low riders or bikini or skin, tight or short top, Ms. Liberty or Kalinda, notutorialthxbie, go!

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Well the series pretty much ended with the creation of thousands of slayers so it doesn't seem that far fetched with bucketloads of them running around. Makes being a slayer a little less special though, which I guess was your point.
      • Starhunter Online would be awesome.

      • Re:Buffy? (Score:4, Funny)

        by Zenaku (821866) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:43PM (#24877743)

        I think there would be plenty of other popular choices for class. I'm pretty sure lots of people would choose witch, hyena-person, ex-demon shopkeeper, cyberdemon, goddess, or dude-who-just-wants-to-be-a-big-snake.

        I'm a tenth level werewolf guitarist!

          • Oh, there'll be problems, alright.

            Post 3269: Nerf Watchers!!!
            Posted by SMGRulz416, 3:44 AM 12 July 2010

            the watcher class is supposed to be a support/utility class but they can beat a purped slayer easy!!! (Ed. Note: loaded with purple quality equipment and upgrades) Once they get the att accolade (Ed. Note: Ancient Tiki Taboo accolade, a reward for completing a long quest arc) they can use it to stun or debuf (Ed. Note: refers to the ATTs power to debuf the defense of a target by 90% or stun the target, ei

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Yeah, I don't know about Buffy, I think Firefly could be a much more complex and creative universe with people owning ships and being sent out to do job.. maybe even jobs against each other. There is so much there to work with..

    • Forget Buffy MMO! When does the Duke Nukem Forever MMO come out? I mean, after all this time, DNF ought to be single, multi, MMO -- pretty much the works, right?!?!
    • Yes, but there are no vampires in World of Warcraft, Star wars galaxies, eve online, warhammer (I think), etc, etc. Sad to say, there's a massive crowd of emo kids they're probably looking to tap into, and it just might work. If it's anywhere near as fun as the Vampire Slayer mod for Half-life, then it's a sure fire hit.
    • This seems like kind of a flimsy IP to base an MMO on.

      How so?

      Aren't there dozens of better choices?

      Such as?

      • Vampire: The Masquerade would be a better vampire theme based MMO
        • Re:Buffy? (Score:4, Informative)

          by Mechanik (104328) on Thursday September 04 2008, @02:05PM (#24878119) Homepage

          Vampire: The Masquerade would be a better vampire theme based MMO

          Agreed. Thankfully, it appears that they are working on one [wikipedia.org] already. Although I assume it's based on the new World of Darkness and not the old one.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            No, VtM is better structurally as the basis for an MMO. Either the Buffy MMO is going to be a bad MMO, or it's only very, very superficially have anything to do with the Buffy stories.

    • Re:Buffy? (Score:4, Funny)

      by philspear (1142299) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:49PM (#24877837)

      There are dozens of other choices, but none where I can virtually fight vampires AND do virtual cheerleading. Also Buffy has lesbian witches. Therefore no, there aren't any BETTER choices.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The robustness of the IP as a basis for development in a new media is best measured on its audience size to date. Check all that apply [wikipedia.org]. Any dollars spent on one medium will double as a marketing investment for the next.

      [x] feature film
      [x] soundtrack
      [x] TV series
      [x] comic book
      [x] novelizations
      [x] dolls, toys
      [x] logo merchandise
      [ ] animated series
      [x] arcade game
      [x] MMORG
      [x] collectable card game

      In the immortal words of Mel Brooks, "Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made.

  • repeat after me (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jollyreaper (513215) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:08PM (#24877147)

    NO MO' MMO's!

    Seriously, I ain't got time for 'em, does anyone else? Just getting through a great single-player game like Oblivion kicks my ass, let alone this multi-player time-sink crap.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      If someone could invent an MMO that was immune to being overtaken by koreans and 13 year old boys (of any age), perhaps I would want to play it. As it is, the AGGR0, LULZ crowd ruins every single one of them -- there's no way to pretend you're part of a story when a kid runs up to you and asks you whether you want him to powerlevel you "reel cheep", or is named YO M0+H3R.

      As for the kind of people who are Buffy fans, that should speak for itself.

  • by Qzukk (229616) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:11PM (#24877193) Journal

    shared spaces where 2D and 3D people can interact

    So what do the 2D players see when the 3D players jump?

  • by goose-incarnated (1145029) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:13PM (#24877213) Homepage Journal

    ... it will ... so it will start ...this will ... once we have ... we're going to have ... all of this will come out in phases ...we're sort of blazing a path ... I'd love to ...

    To be honest, DNF has a lower vapourware coefficient.

  • 2D people (Score:4, Funny)

    by Alsee (515537) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:14PM (#24877241) Homepage

    We're going to have these shared spaces where 2D and 3D people can interact.

    We already have that here on Slashdot whenever an evolution-related story crops up.

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  • Man, what is the point of going through all that trouble? This reeks of wasted effort spent on getting the 2d side up and running, assets they can't re-use, and the trouble of bridging the 2d client over to the 3d client. Seems like a huge timesuck to me.

      • While I think the idea is largely stupid, it will allow people to play when they shouldn't be playing. A browser-based flash game would make it so you can do your gold-farming in a background tab at work or school all day, then go home at night and fire up the 3D client for some immersive vampire-slaying.

        I wouldn't play it, but if it turns out being any good, that's what people are going to do.

  • Question (Score:4, Funny)

    by Sta7ic (819090) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:19PM (#24877339)

    How did this get modded up past the firehose? Buffy, Firefly, and MMOGs have nothing to do with-

    Oh, wait.

  • Hey, now. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rob T Firefly (844560) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:19PM (#24877341) Homepage Journal
    I'm flattered and everything, but I'm not sure I really lead the sort of life that's all that worth making an MMO about.
    • by jcdick1 (254644) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:29PM (#24877531)

      Perhaps this is why the MMO is on hold. They are simply waiting for you to do something fun, exciting, and worth paying a monthly fee to do over and over!

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        go outside with a steak knife and kill 1000 squirrels. Take the skins and return them to the nearest marketplace to sell. Then maybe they'll have a backstory for ya.
  • by Jupiter Jones (584946) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:20PM (#24877357)
    Both of those MMOs sound nice. But if you really want my gaming dollars, how about one taking place in the Dr. Horrible universe?

    (Every five minutes your in-game chat would have to rhyme, of course.)

    JJ
  • Most MMOs (Score:5, Interesting)

    by PhasmatisApparatus (1086395) on Thursday September 04 2008, @01:23PM (#24877413)
    Most MMOs focus on two concepts: a unique combat system and different skills to level. A Buffy MMO sounds interesting enough, until you realize that the developers would have to stray too far from the TV series in order to make it a good game.

    First, the combat in the Buffyverse has always been minimal. Buffy explains in painful detail to the vampires why they can't win, and she'll kick their heads in if they try anything. Once an episode, one of them tries somethings. Buffy kicks heads in. End of episode, at least as far as fighting goes.

    As for skills, well, there's not much of that in the series, either. Buffy has always been killing vampires. It's what she does. Giles is always the librarian who has read every book on the occult, but still never notices anything wrong until someone points it out first. +3 intellect/+1 cluelessness. But I am getting silly here.

    The point is, the game will either conform to the Buffyverse, or the game will distort the Buffyverse to make it work. Either way, it cannot end well.
  • give us Firefly ! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by savuporo (658486) on Thursday September 04 2008, @02:05PM (#24878117)

    Spacesim genre on PC has been basically dead since the late great FreeSpace 2. Okay, there was Freelancer which was semi-decent, but nothing compared to the old great hits like Tie Fighter, best of Wing Commander, Privateer, Tachyon, Independence War or even all the way back to Elite series.

    Do not even start about recent flops like Tarr Chronicles, SpaceForce : Rogue Universe or even the entire X series. Eye candy and insance technical requirements bundled with unworkable control schemes not a playable game make. ( A side note: EVE is not a space sim, not the kind that im talking about here )

    Now Firefly universe would be a perfect setting for Privateer-like game. You dont even have to be goddamn revolutionary game designer to pull a triple-A hit on this. Just use the best gameplay elements of the past, make a good story ( hey its not like good sci-fi writers are hard to come by), half decent graphics and playable controls and you have a sure winner on that currently barren field.

    Yes, i we know Elite 4 and Infinity ( infinity-universe.com ) will be ready Real Soon Now (TM) but i dont think advances in life prolonging medicine are happening fast enough to tide all us space simmers over until then.

  • So.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tsoat (1221796) on Thursday September 04 2008, @02:37PM (#24878611)
    you know when people are high and they come up with really great ideas like breeding and selling hamsters? This sounds kinda like one of those ideas...
  • Two levels (Score:5, Funny)

    by cybereal (621599) on Thursday September 04 2008, @02:46PM (#24878719) Homepage

    The Firefly MMO was in private beta but they couldn't seem to figure out why just as you were about to ding level 3 the game would exit abruptly and show you a confusing array of cutscenes from the rest of the content...

  • by hoofinasia (1234460) on Thursday September 04 2008, @05:24PM (#24880951)
    seriously? Lets make everything an MMO.

    Just announced! Slashdot MMO! play any one of 5 classes informative, funny, insightful, interesting, troll!

    Epic level cap of +1 to +5! Ability to ignore comments I mean players below level 2!
  • by RobinH (124750) on Thursday September 04 2008, @06:55PM (#24881983) Homepage

    If you play an MMO based on a movie/TV show where there's a very small number of super powerful characters, then everyone wants to play the game as those characters and be super-powerful compared to everyone else. But you can't do that well in an MMO because not everyone can be uber. Obviously everone wants to play as a vampire slayer (or a vampire, I guess) just like in Star Wars Galaxies everyone wanted to play as a Jedi.

    I think something like a Harry Potter MMO would make more sense. You start off with little to no powers but earn them at every level, and you can make every character go through the same levelling (i.e. Hogwarts school). It would make more sense that the main character (you) is just like everyone else in the game.

    Most American action movies don't really lend themselves well to MMOs because there tends to be a single hero character with clear advantages over everyone else. Hard to model that in an MMO.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      EVE Online doesn't actually allow players to fly their own ship or do any of the usual space captain things. Combat is pretty much exactly the same as any other MMO.

      I prefer to call Eve a "massively multiplayer 3D online chat room".
      Something like X3:Reunion except MMO would really be the space game everyone's been waiting for.

    • With a property like BTVS, you have to strike while the iron is hot! If they wait to have a worthwhile game to offer, Buffy's relevance may fade.