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A Video Game To Teach AP Level Immunology

Posted by timothy on Sun Jun 29, 2008 03:27 PM
from the next-up-should-be-history dept.
kilrathu writes "Longtime proponents of using video games as sources of learning, the Federation of American Scientists put its money where its mouth is. FAS released Immune Attack, an educational video game designed to teach immunology to AP level high school students and combines the most current research on teaching methodologies with a 3D first-person shooter game. 'The key to the game was making sure it was fun while also covering accurate and complex immunology topics,' said Dr. Michelle Lucey-Roper, director of the FAS Learning Technologies Program. The game is free, although not open source, and can be downloaded here. Sorry, no Mac version yet."
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  • Way to go (Score:5, Funny)

    by Daimanta (1140543) on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:30PM (#23993123) Journal

    Posting a link to a 500 MB file. That won't be a problem ;)

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I know you jest, but I find the linked ABC article more disturbing - half of it doesn't even talk about the game, but about how evil videogames like Halo and Grand Theft Auto have deteriorated public trust in the medium. I could have honestly used a more thorough review of the game in question instead of more meandering over media-generated FUD.
  • The game is free, although not open source... Sorry, no Mac version yet.

    • Obligatory comment about how the PC needs an immunology lesson much more than the Mac does.
    • In Soviet Russia, your PC immunizes you.
    • 1) Create immunology game, 2) make it PC only, 3)???, 4) Profit
    • I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
    • If they would only open source it, we could usher in a new Eden.
    • Immunology, bah... Just more FUD from the medical industry.
    • They had this on the Amiga 20 years ago.
    • Stephen King is dead.. because his immune system failed.
    • I'm wondering what an AP level high school student is??

      AP? Never heard the term..what does it mean?

      • by you-nix-boy (698814) on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:56PM (#23993311)
        Advanced Placement. It's a program offered by the College Board that allows high school students to receive college credit for courses completed in high school, teaching college-level curriculum, and evaluated by a test (that the College Board administers and scores). The number of credits and exact course translation toward your university is usually determined by your AP test score (on a scale of 1-5). Shaved close to a year off college with these puppies :)
        • To pay money to inflate the living hell out of your GPA so that you can have a 5.0 GPA your senior year(yes, AP classes are one point higher than your standard prole classes). AP calculus is a good idea but classes like AP history are more like tangential trivia that you will soon forget after you pass the exam.
          • Depends on the school district, some only give meager weights of .025 like my district...
            • Thank you for the clarification. I'd also like to point out that you don't pay money for the grade inflation, you pay money for the college credit(that is, to take the test).
            • Shoot, my school district gave you a big fat nothing extra for taking AP classes. The only advantage was that you could get college credit, at the risk of lowering your GPA because the material was more difficult. Of course then I got to college and discovered that almost none of them take AP credit. I think I got a grand total of 3 college credits for taking AP classes for my entire senior year, unfortunatly unless you know a full year in advance where you're going to be accepted to college, it's imposs
          • "To pay money to inflate the living hell out of your GPA so that you can have a 5.0 GPA your senior year(yes, AP classes are one point higher than your standard prole classes). AP calculus is a good idea but classes like AP history are more like tangential trivia that you will soon forget after you pass the exam."

            Interesting...they didn't have anything like that when I was in high school. I took advance classes as a senior IN high school....my chemistry was pretty much the same thing I took first year in

          • To pay money to inflate the living hell out of your GPA

            Most major universities "deflate" the GPA when determining admissions.

        • Depending on where you apply to college, you may get no credits for your AP courses, as the program has been diluted by schools' efforts to get more students enrolled in them.

        • Too bad they can't use this for remedial immunology... those students are way too slow to play a game.

          • Consider yourself lucky it wasn't the other way around. I had really easy AP classes (except for maybe AP Spanish) which led to the development of some bad habits.

      • Advanced Placement [collegeboard.com]

        It's a program where high school students can take a test in a certain subject and gain college credit for it (if they score well and they go to a college that accepts it). Many high schools have classes which teach specifically to these tests.

        It's a pretty good program, if the courses are taught well. The tests I took seemed pretty well-written to test actual ability in a subject (much better than most standardized tests). I was able to enroll in college with 30 credit-hours off the ba
    • I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

      Huh, this is the only one I don't know the origin on. Anyone mind filling me in?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:35PM (#23993155)

    God Mode if they want to use it in Louisiana?

  • Screenshot (Score:5, Funny)

    by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfileNO@SPAMmindless.com> on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:39PM (#23993185) Journal

    ...from an early beta. [wikimedia.org]

  • If someone gets some sort of hard to cure disease, just let the internet controlled nano bot pilots fix it manually. All they need to do is fly around and shoot the bad cells.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:45PM (#23993233)

    Only a Windows version, is more accurate.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      It thought it was a bit odd in this day and age to not even acknowledge that linux exists.
    • by Valdrax (32670) on Sunday June 29 2008, @05:17PM (#23993869)

      Only a Windows version, is more accurate.

      How would you create a game about fighting off viruses without an environment that's hospitable to them?

    • by kilrathu (1270456) on Sunday June 29 2008, @08:24PM (#23995213)
      We at the Federation of American Scientists (the non-profit group that made this) are working on a way to make it run under WINE but we don't have it quite yet. We hope to have it up by the end of the month. Sorry.

      The reality is we made this with a very limited budget and for that reason we have not not yet implemented a mac/*nix version yet. This is primarily a research project to show that students can learn from video games. The goal is to prove to policy makers that technology can be used to improve education. FAS is open to any feedback you can give them about the game or if you can help get it into the classroom.

      If you really need a different version consider donating or joining FAS [http://fas.org/member/index.html] so that we can continue development.
  • This sounds a lot like the "X-treme" fad of yesteryear. Take a few quizzes and be rewarded with shoot-em-ups between exams. FPS make great teaching tools for, say, military tactics and strategy but I think the field of immunology would be best left to a puzzle game like an adanced version of Dr. Mario. What's next, DOOM: The Calculus? The more pieces you blast something into, There could be a "delta-epsilon" meter for blasting your enemies into smaller and smaller pieces.
    • Re:Wha? (Score:4, Informative)

      by porcupine8 (816071) on Sunday June 29 2008, @04:29PM (#23993525) Journal
      This sounds a lot like the "X-treme" fad of yesteryear. Take a few quizzes and be rewarded with shoot-em-ups between exams.

      Did you actually read/view anything beyond the summary? This looks nothing like those. Absolutely nothing. It IS more of a first-person puzzle game than a first-person "shooter." In fact, if you look at the controls, [fas.org] there's not even anything to "shoot." You go through and find the necessary chemicals to activate the various parts of the immune system.

      • Damn. The one time that I didn't RTFA and I get called on it. Thank you, sir, for bruising my fragile ego!
        • Damn. The one time that I didn't RTFA and I get called on it. Thank you, sir, for bruising my fragile ego!

          Apparently you didn't read her signature either. ;-)

  • What does AP mean? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Mex (191941) on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:47PM (#23993243) Homepage

    Forgive the ignorance but I am not american, what does AP stand for?

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      It stands for "Advanced Placement," which is typically the highest level of a course offered by a high school. High scores on AP tests (standardized tests given by College Board, the same group that does SAT testing) normally translate to credit for introductory level classes at most universities in the US.

      • by ubergamer1337 (912210) on Sunday June 29 2008, @03:59PM (#23993323)
        I cant tell if your being sarcastic or not, but it stands for Advanced Placement. Its a program that allows High School students to get College Credit by taking courses taught at a College level, and then taking a test which determines how many credits you get (if any).
      • Thanks =)

        Love the Firefly reference too.

  • Fun? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BenoitRen (998927) on Sunday June 29 2008, @04:37PM (#23993579)

    If they wanted to make it fun for everyone, they should have made it a fun puzzle game or something instead of an FPS.

    • It *IS* a puzzle game. There's nothing to shoot, hell there isn't even a shoot command! Had you bothered to download the thing you'd know that.

  • a euphemism for sex education!!

  • ... even if their first attempt isn't great, I've often wondered if one couldn't make a puzzle game out of teaching basic electricity and electronics. I was playing bioshock with the little 'hacking' tubes game and thought "wouldn't it be cool if this was about electronics, in 3D, and you could make stuff!"

  • I won't be impressed until they shell out for Dennis Quaid and Martin Short to be voice actors.
  • by kmahan (80459) on Sunday June 29 2008, @08:00PM (#23995027)

    PLATO had a game/training program called "Bugs and Drugs". It was a 2D dungeon game where you ran into various organisms and had to prescribe the correct medicine to kill them. The best group to be a member of was the Bedpan Commandos.

    It was written back in 1978 by Mike Gorback, Dave Tanaka and Paul Alfille.

  • Not an AP exam? (Score:3, Informative)

    by penguins4ever (799364) on Sunday June 29 2008, @11:34PM (#23996587)
    Er, "Immunology" is not an AP subject exam: Take a look at http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/subjects.html [collegeboard.com] if you don't believe me.
    • But they offered a helpful suggestion on the site for how to run it on a mac! Remove the operating system and install windows, and it should work! That got me blinking in confusion a few times.
    • Because its quite a decent bit easier, if for nothing else that DirectX covers everything from image to sound to input. The alternative is to combine multiple librairy... so that raise the barrier of entry right there. Also (I don't know if its what they did), but for simpler games, you can use Managed Direct X in .NET with performance more than good enough to make a game like this one (and then some), with 1/10th the effort.

        • Isn't SDL not even object oriented? That would make the barrier for entry pretty high. Also, its really lacking in the feature department. Fine for a small game like this one though, I'll give you that. Total joke for most real applications though (there are exceptions).

          And for all of the modules that are discontinued in DX, there are replacements.