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The Duke Is Finally Back, For Real
kdawson
on Tue Aug 19, 2008 04:20 AM
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After the first announcement on 1997-04-27 and over eleven years of fresh start after fresh start, Duke Nukem Forever finally comes to your system. At least if your system is an Xbox 360. Jon Siegler, the webmaster of 3D Realms, confirms this on their site: "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that the game has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done — it is now in the hands of Microsoft." Update: 08/19 10:47 GMT by T : Several readers have written with a correction: this announcement is actually about Duke Nukem 3D, rather than Duke Nukem Forever.
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An anonymous reader writes "The Jace Hall Show launched today on Sony's Crackle with a real gameplay preview of Duke Nukem Forever. Jace Hall is a former video game producer and Warner Bros exec and apparently this is his foray into online celebrity. DNF is 12 years in development ... it might be real after all." And if you have had enough self-indulgent gaming-news patter, another reader says "If you want to simply skip right ahead, it's about 4:20 in."
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Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
It's in Microsoft's hands now, so all I'm seeing are chairs...
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Insightful)
An article of this magnitude (well it isn't but if it were true...) and the least the editor could've done is hover his mouse cursor over the link. Also this is old news (DN3D coming to XBLA).
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I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
After I read the summary I called my boss at home and quit. I then drained our bank account and blew it all on hookers and booze. Now you tell me it was false alarm????? When my wife wakes up what she'll do will make the Apocalypse look like a trip to Disneyland. Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.
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Re:I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
After I read the summary I went and bought a Mac Pro, so you're relatively better off.
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Re:I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
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Heaven (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Heaven (Score:5, Funny)
Who knew that that limitation was due to storage space all along. I look forward to the new 18-bit heaven.
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Re:I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
Note to editors, please fact check articles before posting summaries.
Now that would be a sure sign of the Apocalypse.
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Re:I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:I'm so screwed (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
It's NOT just you my friend.
The moment I read it... I felt this enormous pain in my stomach. It got worse and worse to the point where I was heaving with my face on the keyboard. I felt my cheeks ripping apart and out came this little winged monkey. With a fez hat. He just handed me the game, gave me the thumbs up signal and flew out the window.
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
You should have taken a picture and posted it on the net. It would have become an instant shock site classic!
You could have called it monkeyse!
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
Insightful?
Seriously, mods?
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
It's NOT just you my friend.
The moment I read it... I felt this enormous pain in my stomach. It got worse and worse to the point where I was heaving with my face on the keyboard. I felt my cheeks ripping apart and out came this little winged monkey. With a fez hat. He just handed me the game, gave me the thumbs up signal and flew out the window.
That was NOT the thumbs up signal. That was the beginning of Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A B A.
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Hell has frozen over (Score:4, Funny)
You must be in S. Florida. That's the storm blowing them around. Duke Nukem Forever wasn't released. :)
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I knew it (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I knew it (Score:5, Funny)
"Dawn is in trouble? It must be tuesday."
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Re:I knew it (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:I knew it (Score:4, Funny)
Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes,
they've got those hoppy legs and twitchy little noses,
and whats with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesite for anyway?!?!?
Bunnies! Bunnies!! it must be BUNNIES!!!
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Wrong... (Score:5, Informative)
Uh... no?
The story is about Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade, NOT Duke Nukem Forever.
Bad summary. Bad.
Re:Wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Wrong... (Score:5, Funny)
When noone else RTFA on /. why would the editors?
Much love /.
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Re:Wrong... (Score:4, Insightful)
Bad to the point of me thinking the editors might as well just pull this entire posting. Except that'd be too easy on them, I guess. Seriously, though - RTFA, anyone?
Not-particularly-outlandish conspiracy time; the editor(s) in question knew that this would probably be found out as a "mistake" quite quickly, but that it would generate page views (at least) and discussion anyway. And since the majority of Slashdotters aren't subscribers, that's probably how they make most of their money.
Can't say I hold this against them badly; it's just a little commercial pragmatism.
The same goes for "accidental" duplicates of stories that generate good interest and discussion, but are about to fall off the front page.
What gets me is that people will dismiss this (Slashdot editors acting in a mildly cynical but commercially pragmatic manner do something fairly *straightforward*- and not all that evil- that makes commercial sense) as a loony conspiracy theory. Yet they'll continue to believe the alternative, that the editors continue to be employed despite making transparent "mistakes" and displaying supposed incompetence that would verge on the drool-inducing. Get real!
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Re:Wrong... (Score:4, Informative)
Actually re-releases of older games on newer platforms are becoming more common. Game devs have started to note the flourishing emulation community and realized that people still like to play the old classics. Sometimes, they go out and use the emulators to do it. Sierra uses DOSBox to run their compilations on Windows. Also Nintendo has a SNES emulator (developed in house I think) on the Wii so you can buy favored SNES games and play them. So that isn't surprising.
Also DNF is no joke, or at least if it is the joke's on 3Drealms. They have currently licensed not one, not two but three high end (at the time) 3D engines over the course of developing it. That is some seriously expensive shit. They've spent a lot of money working on it. Be it ineptitude or something else, they've sunk a lot of money in the project.
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Yep (Score:5, Insightful)
As a practical matter it isn't real likely that DNF would come out now, not just because of it's vaporware status but because it is, yet again, time for another engine change. DNF was being developed on a modified Unreal Engine 2. Ok, no problem... Except that Unreal Engine 3 is out. Not only is it out, there are a bunch of first flight games using it. Bio Shock, Mass Effect, UT3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, this is what people expect new, top of the line shooters to look like. So if they release with a game based on the old engine, well it isn't likely to do so well, especially given all the buildup. Thus they'll need to license UE 3, and then they'll be conversion work for that.
However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.
I can't say I'm all that surprised, they have done basically nothing as a developer for over a decade, and not a whole lot as a publisher (most of their stuff published this decade are Duke rehashes for various platforms). It can't be cheap to continue working on this game that's never getting released. Compounding that is licensing cost for buying new game engines all the time. 3D engines from companies like Epic and iD are not cheap, and even less so when it is the top of the line engine. They've thus far bought 3 of them (Quake 2, UE 1 and UE 2) and that is going to hit the bottom line.
Personally, I think they'll go bankrupt before they ever actually get DNF out. Most likely the property will be sold to another studio. Who knows what will come of it? At this point, I just don't see them as being able to get together the money to finish it, even if they did actually stop screwing around and work on getting it out.
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Re:Yep (Score:5, Interesting)
Think what you wish.
One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding, how to interface with Live, etc, etc, etc. This was done on a "smaller" project so that kinks and issues can be worked out for the larger project (DNF).
If you want to chicken little the world, go ahead. Doesn't make it right. :)
Joe Siegler
Webmaster - 3D Realms
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Re:Yep (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Yep (Score:5, Funny)
We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.
You're thinking of Will Wright. The DNF team has been making promises for more than a decade.
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Not DNF (Score:5, Informative)
This isn't a release of Duke Nukem Forever, just an updated Duke 3d for Xbox 360...
(As I am sure many posts will correct)
3D not Forever (Score:4, Interesting)
The apocalypse is not upon us. The summary is wrong, for those of you new here. This is Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade and not Duke Nukem Forever.
Re:3D not Forever (Score:4, Funny)
I knew the story must be wrong when it said Duke Nukem Forever was being released. That's not something that happens so it's clearly nonsense.
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Even the editor (Score:5, Insightful)
Amazing (Score:5, Funny)
Results 1 - 10 of about 852 from slashdot.org for duke nukem forever.
Lets hope the game actually gets released before we have to read another 800+ articles about it
Tags (Score:5, Insightful)
fps, badsummary, wrongsummary, !dukenukemforever, kdawsonsucks (tagging beta)
Best. Tags. Ever.
Nobody actually reads the article... (Score:4, Insightful)
We're very pleased to announce that "Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox LIVE Arcade" will be coming to your Xbox 360 console soon!
So it's been Duke Nukem 3D [wikipedia.org] we've been waiting for? Or did they change the name from Duke Nukem Forever [wikipedia.org]? Because if you've all been waiting fro Duke Nukem 3D then that's been out for a while and you can all stop holding yer breath. If you are waiting for Duke Nukem Forever.... well then you've still got some waiting to do.
Oh and by the way. According to these articles McCain [wikipedia.org] is actually a space alien and this article clearly states that Obama [wikipedia.org] is a time-traveler. Don't believe me? Read the article... if you don't how would you know if the article says that or not?
The second mistake in the original article (Score:5, Informative)
-- Joe Siegler,
Webmaster 3D Realms
thank fucking cthulhu for this one (Score:5, Funny)
Tropical storm blowing outside, sky all dark, internet out so I'm having to use neighbor's wifi, and now I thought for a moment Duke Nuke'em Forever was finally coming out. I expected to see another sign of the apocalypse at any moment!
Re:No more vaporware awards... (Score:4, Informative)
THey tried that 2 or 3 years ago. It still won by a landslide the next year.
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Re:A sign... (Score:5, Insightful)
No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.
It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".
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Re:A sign... (Score:4, Funny)
No, /. editors not checking the actually story is not a sign of the Apocalypse.
It's more on the scale of "a sign that /. is not a real news source".
Given your low uid, if you haven't realised this by now its probably something you shouldn't worry about...
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Needless flamebait (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm wondering if maybe Hurricane78 is a console gamer, and therefore has no knowledge of FPS games on the PC. It's possible people would read "Duke Nukem 3D" and assume it must be the "Forever" game, because that's the only Duke Nukem they're aware of.
After all, generic common-as-muck shooters such as the Halo franchise and Gears of War are elevated to Godlike status by console gamers, and I can only presume it's because they've never actually played shooters before that didn't suck. As far as decent shooters go, consoles don't really have much of a history. There's Goldeneye 007 on the N64, but not much else.
Point being, if you'd never heard of DN3D then you might mistake this announcement as being the final name of the "Duke Nukem Forever" project, in the way that Longhorn became Vista. So maybe that explains the journal entry. kdawson's contribution can be explained by his or her general uselessness as an editor.
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Re:A sign... (Score:5, Funny)
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria... Duke Nukem Forever
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Re:Could SOMEONE PLEASE EDIT... (Score:5, Funny)
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