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September PS3 Launch, Online Service

Posted by Zonk on Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:08 AM
from the that's-not-the-spring dept.
Next Generation (which has generally been fairly reliable regarding information of this nature) has a report indicating that the PlayStation 3 may be launching in September of this year. They also have information about the Sony online console service that has been rumoured for the last few weeks. Apparently called HUB, they theorize details about that aspect of the console will be made available in the next few weeks. From the article: "PlayStation HUB is being described to developers as a 'subscriber service' suggesting a monthly charge. We understand the service is being created by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, although this is unconfirmed. Sony boss Howard Stringer is pushing for all media content to be available for distribution over PlayStation HUB, such as music and movies, thus opening up a powerful iTunes-like distribution network for Sony."

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[+] Sony Takes Aim at Xbox Live 287 comments
Joystiq and the site ComputerandVideoGames are reporting on the first real action in the next-gen war. Sony is apparently readying a strong online service that will meet or exceed the features of Xbox Live. With no firm PS3 launch date yet released, the 360 still has the advantage, but if Sony is rolling out an online matching and media service with their (reportedly) more powerful console things could look bad for Microsoft's new system. From the article: "This story, together with the recent survey Sony conducted, should remove any doubts about Sony's online ambitions. Is it possible that Sony could create a network the size and scale of Xbox Live in such a short time. It has cost Microsoft, the world's largest software company, billions and taken years just to lay the framework for the current Live service. Sony is know for their hyperbolic marketing: the PS2's Emotion Engine, the PSP as iPod-killer; it seems unlikely they could take the crown from Microsoft on their first try, but any attempt is a huge relief. It was beginning to look like Sony didn't think the Live service was a valuable addition to console gaming, or a serious competitor to their hegemony. "
[+] Sony Denies PS3 Delay 188 comments
Eurogamer reports that Sony is flatly denying the delay of the PlayStation 3. From the article: "Sakaguchi was responding to allegations made by Merrill Lynch analyst Joe Osha in a report published late last week, in which Osha claimed that the PS3 could launch in autumn in Japan, with a US launch possibly being delayed to early 2007. 'There is no change in our original plan to release the console in spring 2006," Sakaguchi told the press in Tokyo, referring to the company's only stated goal for the launch so far - namely that the console will appear in at least one territory, most likely Japan, this spring.' They have lots of opportunities at GDC and E3 to change the public perception that their next console is still very much a work in progress.
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  • What? (Score:3, Funny)

    by voice_of_all_reason (926702) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:22AM (#14724951)
    thus opening up a powerful iTunes-like distribution network for Sony.

    Except it's not portable. Insert "wah-wah-wah-waaaaah" sound.

    Come on, an internet-required playstation is about as portable as a grammaphone.
    • Expect (Score:4, Informative)

      by brunes69 (86786) <slashdot&keirstead,org> on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:27AM (#14725007)
      (http://www.keirstead.org/)
      Expect the ability to transfer stuff from your PS3 directly to your PSP for portability.

      Also expect the ability to transfer music and small videos directly to your Walkman phone.

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      • Re:Expect by voice_of_all_reason (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:33AM
        • Re:Expect by brunes69 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:36AM
        • Re:Expect by apoc06 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:02PM
          • Re:Expect by Masami Eiri (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:46PM
            • Re:Expect by damsa (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:09PM
              • Re:Expect by RoadDoggFL (Score:2) Thursday February 16 2006, @06:17PM
            • Re:Expect by apoc06 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:26PM
            • In theory, DVD = 720x480. In practice, no. by tepples (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @03:51PM
              • WTF? by brunes69 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @07:55PM
              • Re:WTF? by tepples (Score:1) Thursday February 16 2006, @11:04AM
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      • Re:Expect by HalAtWork (Score:1) Wednesday February 15 2006, @02:11PM
    • Re:What? by TacNuke (Score:1) Wednesday February 15 2006, @03:40PM
  • A proprietary HUB (Score:1, Troll)

    by EggyToast (858951) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:24AM (#14724979)
    (http://www.eggytoast.com/)
    Movies and music... that only work on your Sony device. We are already familiar with the tiff Sony had with Apple regarding iTunes in Australia, and we know how loathe they are to open up their own formats.

    So you can potentially buy movies and music, and apparently the thing also plays video games (which we haven't heard much about). The Xbox360 lets you plug your iPod in at least (and apparently does a pretty good job of handling it). Yet Sony wants people to not only pay a monthly fee, but also use their service to buy movies and music electronically, encumbered and weighed down with DRM, and which will almost assuredly work only with Sony devices.

    "But it'll have Blu-Ray!" Yeah, big deal.

  • Sony who? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Rude Turnip (49495) <rudeturnip@vald o t .org> on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:27AM (#14725004)
    (http://valdot.org/)
    There used to be such a company that existed up until they willingly attacked the worldwide information infrastructure with malicious software and assumed all their customers were criminals. But now that company is dead as far as I am concerned.
  • by bubulubugoth (896803) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:39AM (#14725095)
    (http://www.aullox.com/)
    Or this "live" is an internet based service.

    And, if it is an internet based service, then ISP will ask for their cut as the "Free ride" thing with Google?

    Or this will be another reason to push the tiered internet?
  • Speculation of Info (Score:2, Interesting)

    by VGMSupreme (228396) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:53AM (#14725213)
    (http://www.wildnobility.com/)
    This is so layer in speculation, that I can smother my pancakes with it. Probably doesn't taste as great though.

    It seems wierd that they mention none of the details are specific, nor confirmed by Sony, but they can say that Japan and US might get it around the same time? Somehow, I think Sony would honor their Japanese market before it every makes it over the Pacific.

    As for the subscription service, I would like to see it in action, and how well it can hold up to Xbox Live. "an iTunes like distrubtion"? Sounds like like you still pay seperately for each Online game you purchase. You might see a list of games on the server, and pick two, for like $9.99 each per month. Might be more convient to acquiring the game, but it would suck if they charge for each game's monthly subscription seperately. I know they hinted at it just beinga flat monthly fee, but still...

    But remember, this is speculation.
  • So Much for Online Games... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by superdan2k (135614) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:59AM (#14725281)
    (http://www.fontosaurus.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday February 17 2004, @09:37AM)
    A subscription model? You're kidding me, right? I'm sorry, if I am going to be paying $50-$60 for a new game, the last thing I am doing is shelling out more money on a monthly basis to play online. Furthermore, given the stupid subsciption model, where's the incentive to upgrade from my PS2? I can still play SOCOM and Madden online, if I'm inclined.

    OTOH, I don't think there's a single PS2 game that has me inspired to play online -- of the four years I've owned my PS2, I've had it plugged into a network for maybe 10 days.
    • Re:So Much for Online Games... by wickedj (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:26PM
    • Re:So Much for Online Games... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Bellum Aeternus (891584) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:40PM (#14725632)
      You're kidding me, right? I'm sorry, if I am going to be paying $50-$60 for a new game, the last thing I am doing is shelling out more money on a monthly basis to play online.

      Why not, 5.5 million WoW users do it every month?

      Subscription service may even let us see free games in the coming years as developers realize that the majority of their income is from the subscriptions and not the sold box; especially once they stop selling boxes and start providing downloadable content. Of course, faster network connections and a very large audience is need to support that; but that's what this all about right? M$ vs $ony for the title of network/distribution owner?

      You think M$ is willing to lose millions on the XBox and 360 because they hope to make it up in game sales? No way, they want the network and control. Same as $ony.

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  • UMD? (Score:2)

    by abrotman (323016) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:57PM (#14725770)
    I haven't seen anything to suggest it, but will the PS3 play the UMD discs that work with the PSP?
    • Re:UMD? by steveo777 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:28PM
      • Re:UMD? by apoc06 (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @02:04PM
        • Re:UMD? by steveo777 (Score:1) Wednesday February 15 2006, @02:56PM
  • Will HUB bring anything new? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jchenx (267053) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:08PM (#14725858)
    (Last Journal: Friday August 24, @03:21AM)
    Will HUB bring anything new to console gaming? Or is Sony going to primarily focus on copying as much of Xbox Live as possible? It's pretty easy to point at an existing competitor and try to copy as much as their features as possible, but much more difficult to bring something new to the table. The concept of having HUB be a "media HUB" for Sony music, films, etc. is interesting, but I really wouldn't call that new. (And it's something that can already be done on the 360, and presumably Nintendo's Revolution)

    As much as people like to whine about the 360's subscription model (which only applies to the "Gold" membership) and the lack of users so far, I do enjoy some of the new features introduced in the latest incarnation of Live. For example, the gamerscore and the achievement system have turned into "mini-games" in themselves (if you enjoy that kind of thing). However, there are definately improvements that can be made. I wonder if Sony's going to go the extra mile, or if they're just going to be content (for now) with playing catch up?
  • Yet another monthly fee. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ShadowsHawk (916454) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @02:52PM (#14726561)
    Perhaps it's because the PC has always been my primary game platform, but I simply am unwilling to pay a fee to game online. I see this as nothing more than a way to have a sustained monthly income for Sony and M$.
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  • by mjhacker (922395) <mjhacker.gmail@com> on Wednesday February 15 2006, @05:04PM (#14727716)
    (Last Journal: Thursday January 12 2006, @03:19PM)
    I've noticed that lately there has been a trend among /.ers.

    1. Pick an evil corporation that is making billions of dollars.
    2. Hate evil corporation! Say bad things about it and refuse to acknowledge any good aspects it may have!
    3. ?
    4. Profit!

    Guess what? It's possible to like all the consoles for different reasons! *Gasp!* You don't have to take sides at all! Sony isn't better than Microsoft, and vice versa. They're both companies, and it is their job to make their stockholders happy by increasing profits. Of course, the Xbox is seeming to make Microsoft LOSE money, but that's another story.

    Anyway, Microsoft's Xbox Live service has many good aspects, and Sony recognizes this. They decided NOT to include an online service with the PS2 because back then they saw no need for it, but the fact is they thought about it. Now that they've seen that a centralized online service is not only feasible but also desirable, they are creating one as well. So, enough of this talk about "OMG they copied xbox! Xbox rules $ony sucks! [insert comment about rootkit or DRM]! LOLz"
    They contemplated a centralized online service long before Xbox live existed.
    At any rate, I am interested in how Sony's online service will debut (provided it even exists). While I personally favor the PS3 to win the next-gen console war, I recognize that the 360 will have had a year-long headstart, along with a well-established online service, and that will be very dangerous footing for Sony. If they can't convince people that the PS3 will surpass the 360, then they will probably even lose to the Revolution (which, seeing the way things are going now, might win the console conflict yet). It won't be a dull war this time around, that's for certain.
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  • by Kaldaien (676190) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @07:16PM (#14728761)
    Is it really wise to launch a new platform at the same time in two countries that speak different languages? Many of the games - actually, all of them - that I own for my PS2 are English translations of Japanese games. The only reason I own a PS2 is in fact for the Japanese console RPGs and Gran Turismo. Unless SONY pulls off a miracle, launch titles in the US will mostly be cross-platform franchise titles (i.e. EA Sports games) and it could be 6+ months until the good Japanese games are released in English / US. I suspect that is partly why the XBOX 360 is selling so poorly in Japan.

    SONY clearly realizes that Spring is not the best time to release a new platform. But the question remains, will they rush the console out the door before Christmas even if the selection of US launch titles is as abysmal as the PSP's. You could argue that it can play the existing library of PS1 and PS2 titles, but I do not see many parents justifying the $500 pricetag because it can play their kids' old games and eventually desirable PS3 games. The Revolution on the other hand, if priced reasonably, may be able to fallback on NES/SNES/N64 download service and GameCube backward compatibility at launch.

    The only saving grace I see for the PS3 in such a scenario is the BluRay player. I own two HD sets and would gladly fork over $500 for a BluRay player that can also play PS1/PS2/PS3 games ;)
  • Re:GNAA (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:17AM (#14724910)
    God you're retarded....
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  • Re:It will be Interesting (Score:2, Interesting)

    by stevesliva (648202) <stevesliva@gmail. c o m> on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:42AM (#14725126)
    (Last Journal: Thursday February 24 2005, @11:27AM)
    With its monthly fees, the Live service must also be a key aspect of justifying losing hundreds of dollars on every XBox sold. Given the fact that the PS3 will also have a few C-notes wrapped around every console, Sony absolutely needs this to make up that money.
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  • by apoc06 (853263) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @11:55AM (#14725239)
    i wouldnt say that. its more like the other gamers really suck.

    you have to really do some networking and try to stick to playing against people you know arent assholes.
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  • by StocDred (691816) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:08PM (#14725349)
    (http://www.fourhman.com/ | Last Journal: Monday September 27 2004, @03:44PM)
    I would like to see some evidence that your non-interesting pathetic attempt at a comment is not the result of a paid shill, trying to seem non-partisan yet still staunchly pro-Xbox Live. "The online console era is the new thing for consoles and is now definitely here to stay"? Come on now, really. Did you phone in this comment from the year 2000?
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  • Re:It will be Interesting (Score:2, Informative)

    by cornface (900179) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:10PM (#14725356)
    It will be interesting to see how this service does compared to the new XBOX Live available for the XBOX 360 users. XBOX Live over the past couple years has become the standard for online console gaming with in my opinion great service and the ability to download content for live-enabled games.

    The online console era is the new thing for consoles and is now definitely here to stay as it looks like both XBOX 360 and PS3 both are going to be media centers in one form or another. I think HUB is going to have some catching up to do to match the growing success of XBOX Live.


    The growing success, put into perspective.

    10% of Xbox owners ever got on Live. Microsoft's Xbox sales were 20% of Sony's PS2 sales. Nintendo's sales were also around 20% of Sony's. Doing the math, we can see that Live stormed onto the scene and sucked in a whopping 1.6% of the console gaming market.

    Holy cow! How will Sony ever catch up to that???

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  • Re:Money (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jferris (908786) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @12:16PM (#14725413)
    (http://www.randominnovation.com/)
    I highly doubt that the Playstation is "carrying" Sony in any way, shape, or form. I am sure that it contributes to its profits, but there is more of a world besides video games to Sony, as a company. I am sure that their publishing and a/v equipment carry the company more than the console does.
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    • Re:Money by sibtrag (Score:2) Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:40PM
  • Re:Launches (Score:2, Informative)

    by ethorad (840881) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:06PM (#14725838)
    Which means it'll be out around Spring 2007 in Europe :(

    So long to wait until the Xbox 360 drops in price ...
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  • Re:Launches (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:07PM (#14725847)
    Sony *hasn't* announced anything about the rollout sequence and territories. Just the "Spring 2006" timeframe, that was all. In interviews they even said that various rollout options were being considered in terms of territories, but that they could confirm none. So it's perfectly plausible that it could launch in Japan and the US simultaneously - at least they've said nothing to contradict that.
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  • Re:Launches (Score:2)

    by apoc06 (853263) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:53PM (#14726179)
    with japan and the US now belonging to the same "region" in regards to regional machine encoding, i wouldnt be surprised if they tried to pull off a simultaneous launch. the same consoles can pretty much be used for both launches; sans a few packaging details. can they do it? i highly doubt it.

    please reference your /sony/ source where they announced which territories will be released first?

    also, keep in mind that this is a rumor article still. not OFFICIAL word. september 16/21 or whatever could be crap. september is a long way away from "spring" in terms of when they stated they would launch.

    personally, id rather have the ps3 in september if that means i get more launch titles and a larger [and more stable] supply of the actual consoles.
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  • Re:It will be Interesting (Score:3, Informative)

    by dup_account (469516) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @03:18PM (#14726723)
    Don't forget that you have to pay to get patches for Xbox games, which ironically need patches... My PS/2 doesn't crash nearly like my Xbox (as in almost never).. Stupid Xbox thing...

    Now if I can just defeat Malak..
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  • by KDR_11k (778916) on Wednesday February 15 2006, @03:29PM (#14726827)
    As has been said before, access to the XCircle online store doesn't cost money. Playing multiplayer games online does.
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