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Lara Croft As The Final Girl
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Zonk
on Tue Apr 25, '06 04:40 PM
from the psychology-of-teenage-boys dept.
from the psychology-of-teenage-boys dept.
Clive Thompson, over at Wired, takes a look at the appeal of playing as Lara Croft ... and doesn't focus on her physical assets. From the article: "The Final Girl theory emerged in 1985, when Carol Clover -- a medievalist and feminist film critic -- was dared by a friend to see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Back then, most feminist theorists loathed slasher films, and regarded them as classic examples of male misogyny. It wasn't hard to figure out why: Thousands of young men were trooping into theaters to cheer wildly as masked psychos hacked apart screaming young women. That really didn't look good. But as Clover sat in the theaters, she noticed something curious. Sure, the young men would laugh and cheer as the villain hunted down his female prey. But eventually the movie would whittle down the victims to one last terrified woman -- the Final Girl, as Clover called her. Suddenly, the young men in the audience would switch their allegiance -- and begin cheering just as madly for the Final Girl as she attacked and killed the psycho."
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Next Generation has a piece talking to Eidos marketing chief Bob Lindsey about the restoration of Lara Croft's good name. From the article: "Lindsey says the negative associations surrounding Lara will be swept away with a single decent iteration, arguing that Lara, far from being a one-decade wonder, has legs. 'Eidos has learned in spades that just because we make it, does not means they will come,' he says. 'Users are very discerning about what is a good experience and what is not. If you create a big franchise like Tomb Raider, one that has sold more than 30 million units globally, you can't afford to burn it with something that does not deliver.'"
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B. Stevens
(Score:2)Why I cheer.
(Score:1)May the best X win!
(Score:5, Insightful)(Last Journal: Wednesday October 25, @12:19AM)
The summary at least misses the point. The audience didn't "switch their allegiances"; in each conflict, they were cheering for the better (generally smarter) of the combatants. That's why those films seldom just have people being killed. Instead:
Then, at the end, we get to see someone who didn't exhibit these character flaws win.
It has little or nothing to do with sexism, and everything to do with cheering for people with survival traits.
--MarkusQ
Re:May the best X win!
(Score:5, Insightful)Survival traits? Sorry, not even that. And I could, for example, make a pretty good case for greed BEING a survial trait for you and yours.
No, such films are nothing more than grown up versions of the boogyman stories parents would tell their children, all about what happens to little kids who do bad things.
True Neutral?
(Score:4, Funny)(Last Journal: Tuesday September 19, @01:23PM)
This is why
(Score:5, Insightful)(http://www4.ncsu.edu/~cbberg/index.html | Last Journal: Monday October 23, @01:43PM)
You know, I have an MA in Literary and Rhetorical theory, and this kind of crap is why I left Literary study for Rhetoric and Digital Media when I went for the old Ph.D. The worst part is, I can probably cite most of the papers and books that this woman read, without even finding her references. It gets predictable. Want an alternate reading/viewing? Lara Croft is a modern female version of the "American Adam" archetype, as laid out by R.W.B. Lewis in 1955 in a book by the same name. She's "an individual standing alone, self-reliant and self-propelling, ready to confront whatever [awaits her] with the aid of [her] own unique and inherent resources" (p.5).
The point - and I do have one - is simple: the beauty of cultural criticism is that everyone can debate it endlessly, and everyone who's got the right sources can be right! Yay!
Re:This is why
(Score:5, Funny)(Last Journal: Sunday November 27, @02:29PM)
Kill Bill
(Score:4, Interesting)(Last Journal: Wednesday July 06, @10:01PM)
Cheering?
(Score:5, Insightful)(http://hackwrench.tripod.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday September 18, @02:32PM)
I call shenannigans on this...
(Score:3, Interesting)Lara is indeed a girl that every boy wants to be with, but not in a plutonic way; they want to control her, and have her be the object of their sexual fantasies.
What are they cheering for?
(Score:5, Interesting)(http://lawpoop.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday May 28, @06:51PM)
Maybe the men weren't cheering for the psycho or the woman, but for the violence itself .
Buffy Anybody?
(Score:5, Insightful)This is a much closer analogue to Laura Croft, or other fictional kickass ladies like the Major in Ghost in the Shell.
I say bullsh*t
(Score:5, Informative)(http://www.okopipi.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday July 09, @09:31PM)
However, I really don't think of Lara as the "Final Girl". She's just a tough girl, period, if not a sex symbol. C'mon, we all know she was famous for her gravity-defying measures, but later was slimmed down to appeal more to the feminine public. I much less identify with her.
Now allow me to compare to another famous treasure hunter.
Indiana Jones
Family: A devout religious man (Junior?)
Studies: Ph. D. in Archeology
Job: Archeology teacher in Barnett College, NY ("X never ever marks the spot")
Reasons for treasure collecting: "It belongs in a museum!"
Favorite Gadgets: His leather whip and a Fedora with a very high sentimental value (belonged to the man who stole the Cross of Coronado).
Sex appeal: "And my mother's ears, but the rest belongs to you."
Most used quotes: "I hate Snakes!", and "Don't call me Junior!"
Lara Croft
Family: Extremely Rich family (can you compete with the Countess of Abbingdon?)
Studies: At home
Job: What job?
Reasons for treasure collecting: Add to her dad's collection, and, once in a while, save the world
Favorite Gadgets: Dual 9 mm Pistols
Sex appeal: Boing, boing, boing!
Most used quotes: ?
I'll take Indiana Jones, thank you.
Funny theory...
(Score:2)(http://www.creimer.ws/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 26, @06:51PM)
the jackals laud the victor
(Score:2)I'm shocked. No, no, not shocked that the audience sided with the obvious soon-to-be victor. That's predictable. I'm shocked that anyone places stock in a theory that suggests that the winner's traits matter in whether the audience sided with that character.
Its also called glory supporting... Just look at
(Score:2)(http://djsmiley.blogdns.com/ | Last Journal: Friday February 13, @10:48AM)
UKism here but football is exactly the same. For anyone from the U.S. you might as well stop reading right now as i doubt this will make any sense.
"Does anyone know any manchester United supporters from Manchester?"
The fact is people will support whom ever ends up being glorious. In most of these films the girls are against impossible odds, so the men support the "evil henchman/manic killer/giant monster of death" and why?
Well lets get really "medievil"..... Cave men... they are fighting right? Big clans.... Your not going to support the losers are you? Death to the losers.
Anyone whom supports something that loses ends up dying along with it, its built into our genes. The reason the women dont do the same? Well they were not the hunters appently.
She's the one for me.
(Score:4, Interesting)And so am I
The fire, baby. It'll burn us both
There's no place in this world for our kind of fire
My warrior woman. My valkyrie
You'll always be mine. Always. And never
Counter interpretation
(Score:5, Interesting)(Last Journal: Thursday April 25, @09:03PM)
Actually Lara Croft doesn't really fit with the final girl theory. In Carol's definition you can't start with the *final* girl. She goes through a metamorphosis and becomes more masculine as she survives more of the horror.
Interesting points about the final girl theory:
The theory is flawed (all failings acknowledged by Carol Clover, she doesn't assert that this theory is anything grand or definite) in that it assumes that only adolescent males enjoy horror movies. The theory is completely broken if you agree that any women enjoy horror movies.
The theory itself says that the adolescent boys can identify with the final girl without themselves feeling threatened by the killer (who is hunting women), but who demonstrates the traits of a stereotypical adolescent male masculine fantasy (surviving against all odds, strong, capable, etc.). The theory is that this is a way for young men to indirectly experience homo-erotic fantasies. The women are characteristically running from phallic, penetrating objects such as knives and other stabbing weapons. Yet the final girl is also an erotic object herself. She usually has an asexual name (like Sam) and carries a phallic object like a torch, stick, etc.
Yes, the world of literary theory is stranger than you know. o_O
Avert your eyes!
(Score:5, Funny)(http://zeldacomic.net/)
Suddenly, the young men in the audience would switch their allegiance -- and begin cheering just as madly for the Final Girl as she attacked and killed the psycho.
Dude, spoiler alert!
Over analysing things...
(Score:2)Lara Chooses Danger
(Score:2)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Croft [wikipedia.org]
Angelina Jolie turned the genre around
(Score:4, Insightful)(http://www.animats.com)
It speaks well of Jolie as an actress that she was able to bring off the role without it being a joke.
Why men cheer
(Score:1)Alien franchise
(Score:1)Why don't people look at the GAME?
(Score:1)In 1996, first person shooters were already a huge hit with gamers. In general, they tended to be somewhat brainless "if it moves, shoot it" type games(and still are for the most part). There were still some adventure games out there where you had to think your way through the adventure, but the popularity of first person shooters had already started to dominate the thinking of some people. And that's where Tomb Raider came in, as an alternative to that.
Tomb Raider featured extensive puzzle solving as a part of the gameplay. Jump from here to here to flip a lever to open a door, with a time limit on some parts of the puzzle. In many ways, the game would have done well with a male main character but using the same game.
Another feature that helped it do well was the support for 3D accelerators, which were JUST showing up on the market. Before that time, you had software rendering of everything, and to keep the game performance at the proper level, Eidos just couldn't provide high quality graphics(for the time) in software. Hardware acceleration(the original 3Dfx Voodoo chip being the dominant one) made the game look and play a LOT better. So for eye candy, this also had a large effect on how well the game did.
Then you had the subject matter, with Indiana Jones and treasure hunting being popular, a game that had the plot about going into ruins to look for treasure was a good one and it worked well.
You also had HUGE levels for the time. To come out of a pool of water to look UP at some large ruins that for whatever reason were now underground, and feel like the character is small in comparison was different from just about all the other game of the time was a very cool experience. Most of the ruins had animals in them to deal with, not people, so there was the sense that violence wasn't the core of the game.
And then, FINALLY, you had your female main character, with her trying to get all the pieces to the artifact. Obviously teenage boys tend to be drawn to women with large breasts, and many try to make this the center of any theories on why the original Tomb Raider game did well without looking at the other aspects of the game. There were a number of women as well as older players who enjoyed playing for the game design as the primary reason for enjoying the game. It's true that some women enjoyed playing a game where the main character was a woman, and the vast majority of men will enjoy seeing attractive women in a game, but I feel that the other aspects don't get enough attention when Tomb Raider gets mentioned.
Tomb Raider may not have done quite as well without a woman as the main character, but it was still an amazing game, and would have done well.
fit
(Score:1)(http://digitalucifer.net/)
Identification?
(Score:1)I'm not sure I've ever 'identified' with characters in any medium; and if I have it was more likely during the decision-making dialogue of Planescape Torment than in a spatial puzzle-solving/reaction test game. To my mind Lara is a vehicle, and it's nice to drive a flash car. And the games are perfectly playable from this perspective.
Yet another worthless feminist interpretation
(Score:1)Anyway, years later I stumbled onto this link http://www.dourish.com/goodies/decon.html [dourish.com] online. It pretty much summarizes how to deconstruct any book or movie and then turn it around to make it fit whatever interpretation you are looking for.
I don't see any more validity to folks who look for blantantly feminist themes in games, movies, book, etc...than I do with folks who always look at things with an intent to overlay racial overtones. In the end they will find what they are looking for, or at least make it appear as if they do.
Um? No.
(Score:1)Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:2, Funny)Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:1)(http://www.desirecampbell.com/)
Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:1)Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:2, Insightful)I think this relates to the article about a lack of new computer science students: an unacknowledged reason is that geeks don't reproduce very often.
Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:4, Insightful)(http://alliance.sf.net/ | Last Journal: Sunday March 28, @11:04PM)
All groups extremists drag that groups name through the mud - misogynistic punks just like to forget that
Christian extremists drag the name of Christianity through the mud
Muslim extremists drag the name of Islam through the mud
Environmentalism extremists drag the name of Environmentalism through the mud
Animal Rights extremists drag the name of Animal Rights through the mud
Extremist feminists drag the name of Feminism through the mud
do I really need to go on or are you going to wise up and learn that the fundamental tenents of feminism are: equality of the sexes, the right to choose their roles for both sexes, respect between the sexes.
These extremists vary from that. There are whacko feminists who think all sex is rape, while I know several feminists who think porn awesome*: i'm marrying one of them and the other is going the PRODUCE porn. There are whacko feminists who really are "man haters" but they are not the majority by a long shot.
So GROW UP and stop trying to pretend that the minority is the majority: feminism is about equality - not all these things that Rush Limbaugh falsely attributes to it because of some it's more extreme members.
*except like.. snuff porn, and bukakke
(PS: I'm a guy and a *gasp* feminist because I believe in the equality of the sexes!)
Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:5, Insightful)(http://www.hyperlogos.org/ | Last Journal: Tuesday November 28, @05:14PM)
There are several problems with feminism. One of them is the name. The name doesn't say "equality", it's all about women. Another one is the baggage. There've been so many radical feminists that have been embraced by the movement that there's an instant stigma attached to being a "feminist".
Personally, I don't instantly shut down when I encounter someone describing themselves as a feminist, but I have to admit that I'm slightly less likely to pay attention, because of all the ridiculous shit that's carried the feminist banner. I'm a humanist, or maybe an equalist?, and I do believe that all people should be considered equal until they prove that they aren't.
Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:1)(http://www.lwacaw.com/)
Why would we stop reading? we might miss the 8008I35!
Re:"Medievalist and Feminist Film Critic"
(Score:1)~nate
Re:Feminists of the world unite!
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