Generic Dungeons, Universal Dragons 241
Matthew Sernett, Jeff Grubb, Mike McArtor
Wizards of the Coast
$39.95, 288 pages
A purely functional book for D&D, the Spell Compendium is exactly as the title implies: a text collecting spells. As an 'options' book for players, it's hard to argue with the punch of the content. The book does exactly one thing. Spells from such disparate sources as the Complete series of books, the Wizards of the Coast website, and Dragon Magazine were compiled to provide an interesting, fresh set of magical effects for spellcasting characters. The book focuses solely on providing additional spells; My players objected to the title of 'compendium' considering the absence of the spells from the Player's Handbook (PHB). Unfortunately the search for novelty results in what you'd expect from a product like this: extremely variable. While some entries make you wonder why they weren't in the PHB, there are also many confusing or unbalanced ideas. At forty dollars retail it's hard to recommend a product that has such inconsistency in the content. If only on the basis of player/Game Master (GM) arguments, there's a lot of opportunity for frustration as a result of this book. This is definitely a title you can take a pass on unless you only play spellcasters and have a GM who is willing to negotiate with you.
Races of the Dragon
Gwendolyn F.M. Kestrel, Jennifer Clarke Wilkes,Kolja Raven Liquette
Wizards of the Coast
$29.95, 160 pages
The Races series attempts to fill the same niche with player species as the Complete series does with player classes. Each book concentrates on familiar races, gives new background for enthusiastic players, and offers up one or two new races suitable for character creation. Races of the Dragon is somewhat unique, in that it focuses solely on new races for players tired of the standard set. Specifically, it details the Dragonborne, Spellscale, and Kobold races as options for D&D characters. The Dragonborne are a race created, not birthed, a proud warrior race touched by the dragon god Bahamut. Spellscales are vainglorious sorcerers, an impish people with an ingrained sense of style. Kobolds are, of course, the diminutive reptilian race usually slaughtered in large numbers by early-level adventurers. Of the races discussed in the book, the Kobold information is far and away the most interesting to me. An often overlooked race, the simple creatures receive a good deal of fleshing out. As a member of a non-standard party or a quirky addition to your typical humanoid group the Kobold seems to have a lot of potential in this book. The other two races strike me as simple cosmetics: Dragonborne are statistically just magical orcs (though the concept of your character being reborn is an interesting one), and Spellscales feel like elves with shiny skin. The book also touches on half-dragons and dragonblooded creatures, and provides the usual assortment of feats, prestige classes, and spells (my favorite: Gnome Blight). As one of the iconic elements of fantasy, I can understand that there are some folks who just have to play dragons, and they'll find a lot to like here. Similarly if you're looking to complete your collection of the Races books, Races of the Dragon meets the standard set by the other titles in the series. Dungeon Masters (DMs) and non-dracophile players can safely pass; this one's pure candy.
Magic of Eberron
Bruce R. Cordell, Stephen Schubert, Chris Thomasson
Wizards of the Coast
$29.95, 160 pages
Keith Baker's Eberron setting has taken on a life of its own since it launched almost exactly two years ago. The background for Dungeons and Dragons Online, the pulp/noir/fantasy mashup is now Wizards of the Coast's premier product series. Magic of Eberron does a fantastic job of getting across core elements of the setting, elements that have been so far unclear or under-explained. With only two years of development behind it, there is still a lot about the continent of Khorvaire that's not nailed down. For example, creating magical items with Dragonshards is thoroughly covered. Dragonshards power many of the vaguely technology-inspired elements of the setting, and this fundamental flavour element speaks volumes about the world at large. Nightmarish Daelkyr magic, dragon magic, and grafting magic is also explored. Each of these elements not only adds rules grit to the setting, but explains and expands the background presented in the main campaign sourcebook.The tome also manages to balance the fine line between DM and Player content; background information is mixed well with feats, prestige classes, and spells. The Eberron preoccupation with 'places' also works well here, offering up barely sketched out dungeons to add information by example. This is definitely one of the most interesting and informative Eberron resources that has been released to date. Players and Dungeon Masters who are working with this setting should at least take a look. It may not fit your campaign's playstyle, but there is sure to be something here that will spark ideas for later.
Heroes of Horror
James Wyatt, Ari Marmell, C.A. Suleiman
Wizards of the Coast
$29.95, 160 pages
Most D&D products focus on the specific: a sourcebook covering a geographical area, a type of magic, a class or race. Heroes of Horror is the second book in a more thematic series that attempts to add a new twist to the standard Dungeons and Dragons game. Horror, and the previous book Heroes of Battle provides rules and guidelines to focus your campaign beyond the traditional fantasy tropes. As you may guess from the title, Heroes of Horror offers ways in which to include elements from the suspenseful and supernatural we normally associate with games like Call of Cthulu. I'm a big Lovecraft fan, and I was skeptical when I cracked the book if such delicate setting elements could be incorporated via a core book. I should have respected Mr. Wyatt's name on the cover more, because Horror is an unmitigated success. The secret to that success is the light touch the authors take with the source material. Instead of attempting to convey the genre in one go, they break the milieu down into digestible chunks. First they explain how to set the stage for a horror-style encounter (one specific fight, or scene). Then, using the language established with the encounter they expand that to an entire adventure. The Lovecraftian use of suspense, of lurid language, and the need to heighten tension over time is explored with ghoulish examples. Then they take the final step and work with the reader to understand what would be involved in a horror campaign. A series of adventures all with a horror theme could take the players into relatively untrod territory in D&D, and the book is a great guide for the journey. They add a mechanic for 'taint', the psychic residue left behind by dealing with the horrific, but that's just crunch thrown in to make sure you feel like you got your money's worth. Definitely not a book for every Dungeon Master, those that are willing to experiment a little with the traditional D&D experience will find a very worthwhile read here. Players need not apply.
GURPS For Dummies
Adam Griffith, Bjoern-Erik Hartsfvang, and Stuart J. Stuple
Wiley
$13.99, 410 pages
Wiley's series of cheery yellow books continues to expand beyond the borders of technology. This title, along with Dungeons and Dragons for Dummies and Dungeon Master for Dummies seems to represent a new commitment to pen-and-paper gaming. I'm not going to question it, I'm just going to enjoy it. With GURPS for Dummies, there's a lot to enjoy. GURPS stands for Generic Universal RolePlaying System, and is designed with the idea that you can run any kind of game you like using the rules they provide. Anything from fantasy schlock to post-apocalyptic sci-fi to hard-science space adventure can be represented with the system. The downside to the flexibility the system provides is that it's ... a little fussy. GURPS character creation relies on set of advantages and disadvantages, each of which has a point cost or payout. This entry in the Dummies series distills down the complexities into the most basic elements, and then walks the reader through point expenditures step-by-step. Even if used as nothing other than as a first-time player aid, this text is well worth the price of admission. Above and beyond that, they walk through combat, running a GURPS game, and provide some guidance on creating a campaign world suitable for use with the rules set. The combat section is especially brilliant, breaking down options, actions, and skill rolls, and explaining what the best route to finishing a fight is likely to be. My players often joke that no one actually plays GURPS, because the popularity of the system's sourcebook content far outweighs the popularity of the rules-set. Just the same, if you do find yourself looking to get in on a game this is a worthwhile explanatory text for a very ambitious system.
GURPS Space
Jon F. Zeigler and James L. Cambias
Steve Jackson Games
$34.95, 240 pages
While it might be that no one plays GURPS, it's easy to understand why the books sell so well. GURPS supplements are works of art in the roleplaying industry. They're well researched texts, something similar to an informational piledriver. I've known grad students in difficult college courses who refer to GURPS books as a way to get a handle on the assigned subject matter. GURPS Space is a new edition of a classic sourcebook for the line, complete with updated scientific information and new rules to match the fourth edition of the rules-set. Quite simply, this book is the finest resource you will find for running a campaign set in space. It covers, exhaustively, every detail you'll need to consider when your players blast off into the black. The granularity of the subject matter begins quite large, expounding on information like methods of propulsion, interstellar organizations, and the theme of your campaign. It then quickly descends into the nooks and crannies of off-planet science, offering up the rules governing a moon's tidal force on a planet ((T = 17.8 million x M X D)/R^3), as well as the proper placement of planetary orbits around a star. The text has random generation rules for everything from individual alien species to entire solar systems, and ties it all together with a great discussion of future societies at the end. They even include guidelines if your players decide to conquer a planet or two, and what that would entail. ('The Cortez Option', as they call it.) Even if you don't play GURPS, it's hard to recommend against this book if you're considering running a game in the briny black. Heck, even if you don't roleplay, there is enough here to keep a space nerd happy for a month's worth of afternoons.
A Player's Guide to Ptolus
Monte Cook
Sword and Sorcery
$2.99, 32 pages
Five copies of this small sourcebook showed up in my mailbox last week, a harbinger of the release this August of the massive 600+ page Ptolus setting book from Malhavoc Press, in conjunction with the Sword and Sorcery imprint from White Wolf games. The book being released in August is going to be an enormous campaign setting book thoroughly exploring a single city. The five copies I received in the mail were 'rewards' for preordering the book, intended to be given out to my players to excite their appetite for the setting. I'm a sucker for a setting, so here's one of my cynical player's assessment of the book: "Who know if the final price will be worth it, but the little promo looks good. Admittedly I read it pretty late at night, but I didn't notice anything really worth complaining about. I liked how there's a strong element of evil in the setting, not just 'island of civilization beset by darkness' type stuff." In short, the Player's Guide gives every indication that the larger book will offer up a pretty unique setting. Firearms sit side-by-side with swords in the markets, and the populous is well-informed about the dangers of spellcasting. Minotaurs and cat-people walk the streets without incident (or, at least, little more than subtle glares), and every street in the city will be named and numbered. Here's hoping this year's GenCon will see the release of another really worthwhile campaign setting from Malhavoc.
Pen and Paper? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:5, Funny)
It's like a MMORPG, but with content.
(And because most player interaction is verbal, it doesn't matter whether or not DungeonMasterTaco can spell :)
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2, Insightful)
Well okay, you have to go buy your own dice... but then you get to choose cool-looking ones, too!
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2)
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2)
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2)
If not, I call the copyrighted patenting trademarking rights!
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2, Informative)
fun fun!
Ira
Re:Pen and Paper? (Score:2)
WOTC+D&D (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:WOTC+D&D (Score:2, Informative)
Re:WOTC+D&D (Score:2)
Hmm, maybe 3E doesn't suck as much as the GP claims...
Why 3e sucks (Score:5, Insightful)
3e and 3.5e suck because:
Feats - although some may argue a way to individualize a character, actually complicate the process of level advancement tremendously. Further, with the possible exception of a handful of them, they seem largely geared towards producing the power-character... a character who is, by the time he reaches 20th level, a pen and paper version of some sort of anime fighter character from Dragonball Z.
And speaking of reaching 20th level - WTF??? I can count on one hand the number of characters I played for years in pre3e AD&D that even made it past level 8, and I only had one ever make it as high as level 12. With WotC's new rules, a player can very easily and within the framework of the rules as given acquire a 20th level character within a few months of gaming a few hours every week.
Skills - which complicate the process of character creation and level advancement, as players often spend considerable time figuring out which skills they should put skill points into. A simpler mechanism was employed back before the Skills and Powers option was created for 2e, you either had the ability, or you didn't. There was nothing else to keep track of. 3e's mechanism involves too much beancounting.
Ability score increases every few levels - this further propogates the mindset that the only good character is an uber powerful character with great stats. Although there are some fabulous roleplayers that do play 3e, they are vastly outnumbered by players in their teens and early twenties whose time could be equally well spent playing a video game.
Stacking modifiers for combat - While initially appearing like a simple idea, it actually is very complex, because you're adding, for example with a missile weapon, your base combat bonus, your dexterity bonus, your range bonus, any bonuses that are applicable because of class abilities or feats, and magic bonuses. Further, not all of these bonuses apply in every situation, so one can quickly lose track of what they should be adding together and what they should not. Again, this is bean counting that does not enhance game play.
3e's spell selection - Ugh! It sucks! Really! It might initially appear to be largely the same as earlier editions, but closer examination shows that it is not. Many spells are simply rehashed versions of a spell at a lower level but with more power. And even worse, IMO, is the fact that the different classes' spells are not particularly distinctive; spells for one class are often little more than renamed versions of another spell of the same level in another class. This is especially bad with psionics, which once bore the distinction of being very unique and different from spellcasting now feels like nothing more than just another class of magic.
Any class can do anything at the cost of a feat or cross class skill - This option almost completely dissolves the class archetypes that were once a staple of fantasy roleplaying games.
Overall mechanics - 3e, when all is said and done, is little more than a pen and paper version of a computer game like Diablo or some such thing. It is a poor, poor replacement for classic AD&D and I, for one, mourn its loss. AD&D had a balanced ruleset in the sense that making changes to the game, or house-ruling, was not only possible, but encouraged, and that doing so was unlikely to cause any serious ramifications outside of the domain in which the house rule was made. However, 3e goes overboard, trying to meticulously "overbalance" the rules, and the result is a result so firmly laid out that sometimes even the simplest change by a DM can have far reaching implications that throw game balance out the proverbial window.
WotC has turned my beloved hobby into a game that appears to be explicitly designed to appeal to the instant gratification desires of today's videogame generation. The only similarities between it and the original game that Gary Gygax created are highly superficial.
Why 3E doesn't suck (Score:2, Informative)
Feats and class abilities
Can they be used to make cheese-monkey uber-twinkie characters? Yes. Can they also be used to individualize a character, so that YOUR 8th lvl fighter is different from all of those other 8th level fighters? Yes, Yes, Yes! In 1st / 2nd Ed there were not a lot of difference (mechanically) from one fighter to the next. In 3.5, you can create the character that YOU want to play.
Re:Why 3E doesn't suck (Score:2)
Re:Why 3e sucks (Score:3, Interesting)
None of these statements are true.
"Stacking modifiers for combat - While initially appearing like a simple idea, it actually is very complex, because you're adding, for example with a missile weapon, your base combat bonus, your dexterity bonus, your range bonus, any bonuses that are applicable because of class abilities or feats, and magic bonuses. Further, not all of these bonuses apply in every situation, so one can quickly lose track of what they should be adding
Re:Why 3e sucks (Score:2)
First of all, nothing existed in the olde game that could add 5 to a person's strength to cause it to go that high because there was, in general, a cap of 18 on abilities for player character races. Further, no stat modifiers ever stacked with other stat
Re:Why 3e sucks (Score:2)
THAC0 anyone? The GP is complaining about stacking modifiers but thinks a system with THAC0 was a GOOD idea? You needed a table for like... everything. And the non-linear advancement of attributes? Well let's see here... the jump from 16 to 17 != 17 to 18. (Oh yes and let's not forget the weir
Re:Why 3e sucks (Score:2)
Re:Why 3e sucks (Score:2)
But 3e's design makes progression virtually automatic.
A good DM can counter this problem somewhat, but not entirely. I've seen 3e campaigns, I've been in them, and I've even DM'd one. So I'm not talking about hearsay, these opinions are based firmly on what I have observed.
Oh, and I neglected to mention that the 3e rules take virtually all decisonmaking by the DM away... relegating him to little more than an automaton that tells the story. A DM's job seems to be to just follow or en
Re:WOTC+D&D (Score:3, Interesting)
The pure anal-retentiveness of the design is what sucks about it. Bonsues and penalties are divided by types and most can't be stacked. You get a +1 to something because of this or that and another +1 but you don't get a +2. No, you still only get a +1. This is worse in computer-based D&D games like NWN, where many magic item are pretty much random instead of chosen by a sensible DM.
The spells are divided into separate spell lists for each and every spellcasting class. Why do paladins and rangers need
Re:WOTC+D&D (Score:2)
Re:WOTC+D&D (Score:2)
No news about Palladium? (Score:5, Informative)
Doesn't look promising.
Re:No news about Palladium? (Score:2, Interesting)
Too bad... (Score:2)
That said, I'd hate to see them go under given the circumstances as repo
Re:Too bad... (Score:2)
What this means is that when a writer creates a new race, say Chiang-ku Dragons, rather than making the creature unique through some good descriptive writing, simply jus
Re:This was flamebait HOW? (Score:2)
GURPS Space (Score:5, Interesting)
Now what we need is (Score:2)
This would be a pretty cool introduction to the GURPS system. GURPS is very UNIXy in the sense that you have a pretty good generic system that allows for small pieces to be integrated into it pretty much anywhere you want.
Or maybe a joke about if operating systems were tabletop role playing games...
GURPS would be Linux (or maybe *BSD)
D&D would be Windows
Warhammer would be a Mac
I don't know, any others?
Re:Now what we need is (Score:2)
Well, except that D&D is the one with a core available under an "open" license inspired, in part, by the GPL, whereas GURPS and Warhammer and both "closed".
There aren't really good analogies; the P&P RPG market isn't much like the OS market (though maybe its like what the OS retaining enormous marketshare dominance, was bought out by a dominant player in an faster-growing, overlapping market [Google, maybe?] who then
Re:Now what we need is (Score:2)
Yeah, I am familiar with PbG. PbG is a conventional licensing arrangement, nothing like open source. (And Hellboy isn't third-party, even though its PbG: its an SJG in-house project, just like Transhuman
Lack of opportunity (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:2)
Unfortunatly gaming shops don't advertise much and that's the fertile ground for getting involved in the local gaming scene. I live about 5 miles from my closest gaming shop and I will say that unless you walked up to the store front to see what the store is all about you'd probably not guess it was a gaming store.
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:5, Informative)
A good resource for either playing online, via forum/group posting, as well as a player/gm locator for such games, and I do believe they have other resources for finding live tabletop rpg games.
There are also a huge number of Yahoo! Groups and Google Groups games going, not to mention LiveJournal and Greatest Journal rpgs.
You can also find games on IRC, which are a bit more interactive (not to mention faster).
I realize these games lack some of the things a live tabletop game offers, such as the social time and friendly banter, but I think these sorts of forums are good for those who can't find live games elsewhere, or who don't have 6 hours to set aside on a regular basis to roleplay.
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.accessdenied.net/index.htm [accessdenied.net]
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:2)
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:2)
Brick and mortar may be so very twentieth century as far as retail goes, but as beacons for hobbyists who want to find their community, they can't be beat.
Another good place to look: the local university will probably have a gamers' group.
Re:Lack of opportunity (Score:2)
GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:5, Informative)
I have the "Characters," "Campaigns," and "Magic" books right now and have been waiting for the "Space" book so I can update my third edition space campaign. A new version of "Vehicles" would be nice, too.
Not to be too fanboyish, but GURPS beats any other tabletop RPG hands down for clarity, simplicity, realism, and playability. Plus it only uses 6 sided dice. It has the largest collection of licensed game worlds of any system, including Conan, Uplift and Riverworld, among others. Plus, it has a huge collection of historical supplements allowing people to role play in historically accurate game worlds from the Aztecs to the Vikings.
So all you other RPGers out there who haven't, please give it a try. You have nothing to lose but your huge bag of polyhedral dice.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Y'know, if you've got a system that works equally well with weird space mon
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
I'd seriously consider updating my GURPS collection to include some Dr Who.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Absolute Time Sense
Danger Sense
Universal Translator
Simulate Death
Teleportation (Time/Unlimited Range/Obvious Inaccessible Focus)
Find Weakness
Mind Control (only on friendly target/limited to suggestion)
and then 20 INT and a billion points into various skills.
And, of course, Dependent NPC.
Fun stuff.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
There have been threads discussing Doctor Who in GURPS on the SJGames forum. See:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=14788 [sjgames.com]
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=15351 [sjgames.com]
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:3, Funny)
Except for those six sided polyhedrons we call cubes...
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
But I haven't done much more than collect books since I got married the first time... Supporting a wife and a house and a child doesn't leave much time... and I'm away from all my friends who used to game...
It's the middle-aged geek's lament.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
I hear ya, buddy. Just wait 'till the kid's old enough to play. My dad and I played the original blue-box D&D when I was ten. When I started DMing, he came up with the best four character names ever: Eski Ker the fighter, Kneal Downs the cleric, Dewey Tewya the thief, and Balzo Phyre the wizard. Hehehe, and I still remember them. Every kid loves playing make believe, not much of a leap to RPGs.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
While your mileage may vary in what you consider fun, and I respect that opinion, there's a bit too much chest-thumping pride to ignore in your statement when you so boldly declare the GURPS wins the trophy for all of these things.
You obviously have not strayed outside of the classic supplement machines of WotC, White World, SJG, etc. if you think that GURPS wins in ALL four categorie
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Simplicity and clarity are subjective, too, and you had not problem debating them. (and I disagree with all your specific counters, though I think that Risus beats GURPS for simplicity, and some forms of clarity, though not realism.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Risus is an excellent minimalist game, but you're going to have to dispute that all of my specific counters are not simpler than GURPS? All of them?
Let's describe a few of them:
QAGS rules are dirt simple. You have a job with a score beside it. You roll a d20 under the score to
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
No, I'm not going to have to dispute them, I'm pointing out that the issue is subjective and that I disagree with your assessment. I'm most emphatically not going to argue about each of them. Though, as an example, I emphatically agree with the factual part of your description of Theatrix but would suggest that resorting to subjective story-based determination for everyth
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Tastes differ. As long as we're gaming with people that have similar goals and are all capable of having fun, that's what really matters, you know?
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Check it out. [faterpg.com]
Ps. sounds like an add? It's not I don't have no connection to the creator what so ever.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
The biggest problem with GURPS is that it tries to be all things to all people (hence the Generic Universal part). That's what kills it. GURPS is just...boring. It's a clear and fairly straightforward system, to be sure. But it's just not at all fun. GURPS is what a role playing system would be if it were invented by IBM.
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Games themselves can be boring, but that is invariably the fault of the GM, the players, or the person who wrote the particular adventure. I can GM a game with no frickin' rules and no preparation, just making shit up off the top of my head and it will be exciting, because I have an imagination and a head stuffed
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
No, they're not. That's my point. Technical material can be presented in an engaging and entertaining manner. GURPS fails miserably at this. Reading a non-setting book is like reading a technical manual. I enjoy reading most game books, even if I don't play the systems involved. I've never gone back to rea
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
I don't know of any other systems with the term "Generic" in them, and I have no experience with any system that tries to be anywhere near as generic as GURPS. The only other thing I've found quite as boring as GURPS is the d20 SRD, because that was intentionally designed to be as dry and technical. The D&D Player's Handbook is actually quite
Why GURPS loses me (Score:2)
If they made the English edition metric, I'd consider it. However, I'm primarily interested in modern and SF RPGs, and there's no way I'm going to be using feet, inches and pounds in a modern or futuristic setting.
Hence, it's T20 [travellerrpg.com] for me.
Complicated != realistic (Score:2)
> for clarity, simplicity, realism, and playability.
Sorry, but you're being way fanboyish.
I like GURPS quite a bit, so I'm hardly "anti-GURPS", but saying it beats any other RPG for simplicity and playability is just not believable. I could never get a game started because almost all the gamers I knew found GURPS way too complicated and too hard to play.
Indeed, that's a key reason GURPS has languished in obscurity for so long
Re:GURPS Space next on my 'Must Buy' list. (Score:2)
Eberron and the state of D&D (Score:5, Interesting)
A long time ago, probably in someone's basement Ed Greenwood developed Forgotten Realms. He developed it for his group, and someone caught wind of it. It turned into phenomenon. It was home grown, made purely for fun, and spawned countless wonderful hours. He wasn't a professional, he didn't do it for money, he did it to enrich his group's play.
WoTC tried to duplicate that by soliciting submissions from everyone and creating a new line based on their original home grown idea. They had judges, a competition, etc. I'm surprised Fox didn't air it. Forgotten Realms was far from dead, and many continued to enjoy playing in it. They decided to abandon what was working, and try and force the same success the line had had under TSR.
I'm not sure how this has worked out for them. I've only just gotten the Eberron Campaign setting, from the bargain bin, over 50% off. That is probably pretty telling.
What else have they done besides trying to capture old glory? They gave the video game license to Atari. I really hope they gave the license itself a tube of KY after doing so. Atari has done nothing but produce crap. Temple of Elemental Evil was the only product that showed promise, and Atari bungled that beyond recognition. Its actually shown so much promise that a group of fans have gone on to work diligently in recreated B2: The Keep on the Borderlands. Atari long ago abanonded it. This engine had the potential to be the next "Gold Box" line of games. Instead they created a mediocre RTS, and a mediocre MMORPG. Because those are all the rage. They also had that bad LoTR rip-off with Demon-stone or whatever it was.
Sometimes the right thing to do is suck it up, give Troika a little more money and realize that you could probably sell 5-10 more games using that engine without a problem.
What else is around the corner for D&D? NWN2. Ah...Bethesda. The providers of such quality games as Oblivion. Anyone with a critical eye can easily realize what a bad console port the PC version of this game is. Its VERY shiny. Its a lot like that hot model with the vacant stare. I don't really want to talk to it the morning after. I'm not particularly optimistic about NWN2.
Re:Eberron and the state of D&D (Score:3, Interesting)
I like the warforged for several reasons:
*They're not just "humans made of metal" (role playing not withstanding)
*They impose unique needs on players
*Their background isn't based on mysterious, powerful "ancients" who are gone now
*They can add as much or as little steampunkishness as you like
The other rac
Re:Eberron and the state of D&D (Score:2)
Incorrect; there have been multitudinous hints that Merrix D'Cannith received/recovered the basic blueprint of a warforged from a giant ruin in Xen'drik; Grasp of the Emerald Claw's climax basically confirms this.
Re:Eberron and the state of D&D (Score:2)
1) Demonstone was a fine game, if a little short.
2) Oblivion is the best RP released since Morrowind, whether or not you think it looks too much like a console port. (And BTW, what the hell does that have to do with how fun the game is? In case you haven't noticed, consoles have fun games on them. Would you have been happier if there was no port and it was 360-only?)
3) What the hell does Neverwinter Nights 2 have to do with Bethestha?
4) What the hell game *do* you like? Do you like any v
NWN2 (Score:3, Informative)
In the last few days, they've released new screenshots [atari.com] (and here [gamebanshee.com]), as well as new movies [ign.com]. So far, it looks to be a very pretty game at least.
More than that... (Score:5, Informative)
You make it sound like the only books coming out for pen-and-paper gaming are D&D and GURPS supplements. There's a lot more than that in the past 6 months.
Here's a few new releases that seem to have flown beneath
- Exalted 2nd Edition - http://www.white-wolf.com/exalted/index.php [white-wolf.com]
- Weapons of the Gods - http://www.eos-press.com/products-wotg.html [eos-press.com]
- True20 from Green Ronin - http://true20.com/ [true20.com]
- Shadowrun 4th Edition - http://www.shadowrunrpg.com/ [shadowrunrpg.com]
- Mutants & Masterminds 2nd Edition - http://www.mutantsandmasterminds.com/ [mutantsand...rminds.com]
All excellent books. I suggest taking a look.
Re:More than that... (Score:2, Flamebait)
Frankly, I'm surprised Slashdot even bothered to mention the existance of GURPS. That's because D&D is the Microsoft/McDonalds/Budweiser of the roleplaying industry. I outgrew D&D around the time the third pubic hair came in. Three and a half editions later and I still have no desire to play it. Give me Runequest, Rolemaster, CoC, HârnMaster, HARP, Fudge, etc.
Windows user upon learning of
Re:More than that... (Score:3, Interesting)
I've had fun playing one of the worst game systems (Doctor Who) designed by one of the worst game companies (FASA) on the entire planet.
I've had fun playing RPG's with no rulebooks at all. Just a DM willing to wing it.
If the game system is the most important thing to you, then I would suggest you are doing it wrong.
I agree that D&D is not perfect, but I wouldn't call it the "Budweiser" of games. I'd call it the "vi" of games. It might not be your fav
Re:More than that... (Score:2)
Paranoia is still around! (Score:2)
Re:More than that... (Score:2)
Re:More than that... (Score:2)
To go further than that, I would have added Ars Magica 5th Edition, Paranoia, the New World of Darkness+Vampire+Werewolf+Mage, Legend of the 5 Rings 3rd Edition, Nobilis, Deadlands, the Mechanical Dream, the Riddle of Steel, Risus, Fudge, Fate, Dust Devils, Savage Worlds, My Life with Master, Dogs in the Vineyard, Feng Shui, Tunnels & Trolls 5.5 and 7th edition, Unknown Armies, Godlike, HERO, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2e, Talislanta....the list just go
I find their lack of taste.. disturbing. (Score:2)
Given who and what they review, I honestly have to wonder if they have no taste or if they're getting paid for it. Honestly, none of the smaller publishers could afford this kind of product placement, and none of these supplements are really worth a review. They're just more feats, more prestige classes, more races, etc -- in
Re:More than that... (Score:2)
Re:More than that... (Score:2)
http://www.atlas-games.com/arm5/index.php [atlas-games.com]
The old DragonLance is the New D&D (Score:2, Interesting)
Things have been coming around lately, over the past year I'm starting to see more and more interesting stuff being released. Its like a new wave of D&D hype is buildin
Dead to me (Score:3, Insightful)
http://www.burningwheel.org/ [burningwheel.org]
three cheers for the little guys (Score:5, Informative)
Slashdotters, please: if you're sick and tired of shelling out twenty to forty bucks for the latest supplement, how about throwing a little money to some of the little guys who are making truly innovative stuff? Look here [indie-rpgs.com] for some ideas on where to start, and I'll plug a few of my favorites. (Disclaimer: I know one of the authors of some of the following games. He's a great guy. But he doesn't pay me to say this, or to plug his games.
Please make a few indie developers happy. You have nothing to lose but your twenty-sided dice.
What I like about Eberron (Score:5, Interesting)
These are some of the things I like about Eberron:
1) It takes familiar D&D staples and makes them interesting. For people who feel constrained to stick the to the Rules As Written, Eberron gently gives them permission to bend (or break) them; this can also serve to wake up players who might feel compelled to attack every goblin on sight, because "everyone knows goblins are evil". Chromatic dragons and metallic dragons are not constrained to their usual alignments. A cleric of an Eberron deity is not required to be within one step of their deity's alignment (although they still get the undead turning/rebuking options and, more importantly, the holy/unholy aura generated by the connection to their god). Clerics in Eberron are not tied to being a follower of a single deity; the Sovereign Host pantheon and the Dark Six pantheon are valid options, and Player's Guide to Eberron has clerics of an entire plane of existence and of the nation-state of Riedra. With two nations of non-humanoids -- the goblinoid empire of Darguun and the monstrous lands of the Shadow Reaches, ruled by a trio of night hags -- PC options are more varied while making intergrating backgrounds easy.
2) It makes it easy for the PCs to stand out. One of the design goals of Eberron was that the majority of NPCs will not have PC levels; they use the generic "NPC classes" from the DMG a lot, and introduce a new NPC class, the magewright (a magically-enhanced craftsmen). It also makes it easy for casual players to get up to speed in a relatively short amount of time. Many NPCs as written top out around 8th or 9th level -- the two exceptions that spring to mind are the Lord of Blades, a 12th-level NPC who is the leader of a group of warforged that assert superiority over the "fleshy" races, and the head of the Church of the Silver Flame, who has the powers of an 18th-level cleric so long as she remains in the capital city of Thrane. So in a relatively short amount of time, players can rise to the top of their game. One downside of this is that WotC provides few options for epic- or near-epic-level play in Eberron, although the Player's Guide to Eberron suggests taking one of the major themes and building a campaign around them.
3) The focus of many of the Eberron products is adding options for storytelling. There are certainly DMs who don't need a book to tell them what a human who was tainted at birth by the horrific daelkyr is capable of, or what a knight sworn to the service of the necromancy-friendly nation of Karrnath can do. But not everyone has the creativity (or more importantly, the time) to work such things out, and a gaming business doesn't make money off of the Dms who just need the core books. I tend to think of WotC products (or any D20 product, really) as options; you can either use what they provide you verbatim, you can tweak something for your own campaign -- maybe the bone knights of Karrnath become the sentinels of K'Dar, God of the Underworld in your campaign -- or you can simply use the ideas presented for inspiration. (Thrane, a nation under the mostly-benevolent rule of the Church of the Silver Flame, is a pretty good model for how a theocracy might operate in practice.)
4) Some of the Eberron products are really well-designed. Although the Ptolus sourcebook may end up surpassing it in size and depth, Sharn: City of Towers was a well-written product focused on the signature location in Eberron, taking you from the top of the highest towers t
Re:What I like about Eberron (Score:2)
Sure, like the one that lets a 7th level Psion cast as if he were a 21st level psion? Only three times per day, but that's some crazy astral constructs you can spit out. Or the original weretouched master, or bleh.
Well-designed and Eberron don't really go hand in hand. The setting is almost overwhelmingly bland, doesn't fit their goal (film noir / action film D&D) in the slightest, the setting has no rules support for this goal (action poi
Re:What I like about Eberron (Score:2)
Ka-ching! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Ka-ching! (Score:2)
Tabletop games? (Score:4, Funny)
Holy schnikes (Score:3, Funny)
Yea, I know D&D and played it as a kid. But I haven't the foggiest clue about anything else mentioned on this entire page. It's like I just got a blinding hot dose of unexpected geekdom and I kind of dig it.
Re:Holy schnikes (Score:2, Funny)
And the smaller press... (Score:4, Informative)
sample.
http://www.sorcerer-rpg.com/ [sorcerer-rpg.com]
http://www.anvilwerks.com/?The-Shadow-of-Yesterda
http://www.septemberquestion.org/lumpley/dogs.htm
http://www.adept-press.com/trollbabe/ [adept-press.com]
http://l5r.alderac.com/rpg/ [alderac.com]
Small Press RPGs Alive and Well (Score:5, Informative)
OT: OS X version of Vulture's Eye and Claw here! (Score:3, Informative)
One of the nicest RPGs is finally running on the mac, and is rock-stable! On to YASD!
Before you mod this down, I'd like you to know I have my Powerbook on a table, AND I use pencil and paper to write down my Inventory when I die - cheating as much as I can.
All the hallmarks of tabletop D&D'ing. Don't judge me.
Slashdot needs regular tabletop RPG stories! (Score:5, Insightful)
It seems like 5% of the posts are about the actual story, and the other 95% of the posts end up being:
* D20/3e/3.5e sucks
* (Insert campaign world) sucks
* WotC sucks
* Only losers need sourcebooks -- give me the core rulebook(s) and I'm happy
* Tabletop gaming is for losers
* Computer RPGs are for losers
* Why not mention (insert gaming system)?
Re:Slashdot needs regular tabletop RPG stories! (Score:4, Interesting)
But yeah, even if the mainstream, Linux-n-PC gamin' Slashdot crowd doesn't invest heavily in P&P RPG, I think it definitely falls in the "Nerds' Interests" category that would make it worthy of deeper, more frequent Slashdot coverage.
Re:Slashdot needs regular tabletop RPG stories! (Score:2)
...and this differs from any other slashdot article how?
Re:Slashdot needs regular tabletop RPG stories! (Score:2)
It is rather too large and diverse of a subject for slashdot to cover well. You might want to go to a dedicated message board for rpgs. Check out the following links:
http://forum.rpg.net/ [rpg.net]
http://forums.rpgchat.com/ [rpgchat.com]
http://ww [rpgconsortium.com]
Since there's plugging going on... (Score:3, Informative)
The new edition is based on the PDQ system that's used in the cult hit Monkey, Ninja, Pirate, Robot from Atomic Sock Monkey Press [atomicsockmonkey.com], which is obviously what inspired the current Slashdot Poll.
PARANOIA continues strong (Score:2)
For the last couple of years I've been packaging the support line for the current edition of PARANOIA, the RPG of a darkly humorous future. The new line now has a dozen supplements (see the Mongoose Publishing PARANOIA page [mongoosepublishing.com]) and an enthusiastic and growing fan base at the leading fan site, Paranoia-Live.net [paranoia-live.net]. The reviews of the new line have been so congratulatory, even The Computer would approve. If you remember the glory days of PARANOIA from the early 1980s, or if you want to understand what all those old
Re:TW:2K (Score:2)
Ah, the memories!