Sony Says They May Not Hit PS3 Shipment Targets 76
Via 1up, a Bloomberg article exploring the possibility that Sony may not hit their shipment targets for the PS3. From the article: "Sony plans to ship two million PlayStation 3 players this year to the U.S. and Japan, and six million worldwide by March. The Tokyo-based company said yesterday annual profit would fall 35 percent to its lowest in five years on price cuts of the console in Japan and a recall of 9.6 million computer batteries. 'The honest answer is it's more of a target' for PlayStation 3 shipments, Jack Tretton, co-chairman of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said yesterday in an interview. 'Clearly we've had production issues.'"
Always love a good montage (Score:1)
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I love gaming.
I have a PS2, Xbox and GameCube.
The Xbox360 is starting to have some stonking titles coming out to play such as BioShock and Lost Planet. The Wii is looking sh*t hot and I've personally pre-ordered it. The PS3? Even Sony seem to be convincing themselves that it is a worthy investment. Regardless of cost, it looks like a mish-mash of ideas that are poorly conceived and put together. Much like the PSP it is likely to be a jack of most trades and a master of none. I hope it doesn't fail because there is a nice little 3 way competition going on which is forcing innovation e.g. The Wii. The only thing that has my interest piqued is Metal Gear Solid 4, and even that wont be out to play until late next year.
Just my 2 pence.
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wtf is that supposed to mean? Is it like "stinkin'"? Are they titles you're "stoked about"? Do they have "stank" (or perhaps they've already "stunk")?
Might as well define "stenk" for me, since that'll be the only one left. (and sometimes "stynk". haha, "thou doth stynk")
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Like Nintendo before them, Sony could use a good shot of humility, maybe it'll help them refocus. They need to remember and understand that consumers have choices, and that they need to earn our money.
Zonk is a Nintendo fanboy (so am I), and his anti-sony bent is pretty strong. All that being said, there's been way more bad news for Sony than good news for the past year or so, so it's not all Zonk.
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Sony's delays in manufacturing will also delay game sales, and that will hurt Sony. No matter how good the finished product is, people who cannot buy it in the first place won't pay for it => less revenue.
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Zonk, from his own articles and admission is a die hard XBox user. There is certainly a rivalry, and Slashdot makes no bones about slant in its editors (no "Fair and Balanced"(TM-LOL) here).
On the other end, while I certainly hope Sony succeeds, and plan on buying a PS3 (in the second wave of adopters), there have been lots of negative articles in the press about both Sony and the PS3.
The media don't really care about the long list of grievances that most Slshdotters trot out, but they need to
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How did the GameCube do this generation? If you answer "just fine", as it sold a good number of systems, and had a lot of fun, exclusive game experiences, then you're probably right. The PS3 will be just fine.
If you define how the GameCube did as failure, then the PS3 will more than likely fail as well.
If you're looking for the PS1/PS2 style library, then you probably won't find it on the PS3, at least not for a couple of years. I'm not sure who will have i
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But thanks for trying.
JON
And this is news because? (Score:1)
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tar.get; n: Something the unskilled succeed in not hitting.
KFG
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Target:Feet
Shoot early and often.
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
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Tobias: "Oh, my God, we're having a fire. Sale. Oh, the burning! It burns me! Evacuate all the schoolchildren! (Screaming. Singing "Amazing Grace.") This isn't a fever! (Continues singing.) Can't even see where the knob is! (Dramatic sigh.) And scene"
I miss Arrested Development
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Looks like unfulfilled reservations all over again (Score:1)
Let the hilarity ensue!
Re:Looks like unfulfilled reservations all over ag (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't, primarily because they're suckers...
Re:Looks like unfulfilled reservations all over ag (Score:2)
You'd think EB/Gamestop would have learned their lesson the first time. I guess management sees the guaranteed money as more important than actually selling the thing when it comes out. I just think it's rediculous that now you have to stand in line to get a pre-order. I thought the whole idea of getting a pre-order was to skip the outside camping shenanigans. Honestly I think it's less of a hassle to just go to the store when it comes it, and if you get one awesome, if not wait like a few weeks. Hell, take
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Don't forget the money factor. If I want to play the "latest and greatest" I'm looking at a new PC at least every 2-3 years, figure $1000+ for a low-to-midrange gaming rig. Then every year I've got to upgrade the video card, lets say I go midrange again at $200-250. If you're upgrading CPU, RAM, HDD, mouse, monitor, or anything else in that time
Re:Oh look 1UP (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, me too! And it should run on Linux or some other open source OS. And it should have user-installable parts so that you can expand it to have exactly the specs that you want. If you want more memory, you should be able to buy "sticks" of memory to plug into it. If you want more storage space, you should be able to buy a hard disk or optical disc component to hook up to it. If you don't like its graphics abilities, you should be able to buy a "graphics module" that will give you more power. And you should be able to run it on a TV if you want, or a monitor if you want. And it should have the option for a keyboard if you wanted to type something instead of use a gamepad. That would be so awesome!!! Man, I really wish somebody would make something like that...
Where are the PC party games? (Score:2)
More importantly, I really wish somebody would make multiplayer party games that need only one machine for four players for that.
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The game? No problem. But then you need to make four controllers, and possibly an USB hub. So far, not really a problem. The you have to convince distributors they should stock your huge box, and retailers to stock it. That's going to be a big problem. Then, you need to convince consumers to buy it, and that's going to be a huge problem. I already have an old joystick and a gamepa
...even when arcade classics collections exist? (Score:2)
Retailers already routinely stock USB hubs and gamepads that follow the USB Human Interface Device profile. So the box of a PC party game would be no bigger than a typical PC game box, that is, the size of a DVD case.
Re:Oh look 1UP (Score:4, Interesting)
The only big flaw with the console is, and this is a highly controversial point that has sparked many a flamewar, the fact that it runs off of AA batteries instead of a rechargeable one.
Re: Hardly a flaw... (Score:2)
Instead of having a single proprietary 1800 mAh battery in the PSP, you can have two of these [thomas-distributing.com] standard type batteries that each have greater capacity than Sony's (and for less money). I'm not sure why you would perfer the other. What is the counter-argument?
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Again, that's just my opinion. It's not like everyone has to feel and think the same things I do. (P.S. Note how I mentioned that this was controversially a flaw, and that many flamewars h
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I guess if they gave rechargeable AA'a with it then that would be the best all around.
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Here it comes... (Score:5, Insightful)
They really suckered us in, didn't they? Even I was optimistic when I heard that most stores got at least 8 allocated. Now, I'm kind of shocked.
This kind of subtle hinting always seems to leak out before the bombshell drops. At least with Sony lately, that seems to be the standard. With only a million by Christmas, there was only going to be a launch in name. If there's less than one million by Christmas, then, in all practicality, we're looking at what amounts to a 2007 launch
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Gee.
End of the World Theory (Score:1)
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Suckers?
All I can say is... (Score:2, Funny)
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More at eleven.
In all seriousness, do we really need to keep posting this? FTA: "PlayStation 3 game console because of a parts shortage in the Blu-ray high-definition disc drive." They get a big-wig to admit that their target shipment estimate is, "just a target." Unbelievable the stunning detective work that goes on around these parts.
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You keep using that word. I am not sure it means what you think it means.
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Come on mods ... (Score:1, Funny)
Vegonomics anyone? (Score:5, Funny)
GASP!!! Say it isn't so!!!! (Score:1, Flamebait)
Regardless who cares about their shipping estimates, they won't hit their sales estimates either. They've successfully convinced thems
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This is off an investment website, after all
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-Eric
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There, I fixed that for you (and the typo also) :)
If the PS3 is going to tank so bad, then it doesn't matter how many units Sony ships.
If the PS3 is going to take off (albeit slower if there aren't enough units out there to go around), then getting it in November, or February isn't going to kill someone.
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With all the accessories you're required to buy with the XBox360, Sony is full of shit.
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But, no no, we'd never do anything like that. The PS3 WILL come with a special motion sensitive flamethrower attachment, though, in case you like that sort of thing. No? Well, we'll just charge you for it anyway.
I'll be the first to admit (Score:4, Interesting)
PS3 luanch linup is a fantastic linup, but only 4 exclusives that won't be available on the 360 that i'm aware of. Wii has a fantastic linup but even if there are a million units the numbers shipped by christmas probably won't be enough to fill demand.
Another downside is after the 360 launch experience a majority of people buying these will only be buying them to resell on ebay - even if there is enough to fill demand people are going to do it because it worked so well for them last time.
So high prices, high demand, angry shoppers.. high cost across the board...
i'm not sure it will boost the 360 sales because of the microsoft stigma but i'm sure it will push sales to PC games, HD tv's, computers, laptops and mp3 players!
will be interesting.. Sucks to be Sony though.. i can't imagine how they messed up supply chain management considering they're king of most of what is in the ps3!
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In Japan, the N64 launched and sold on name-recognition alone.
Japanese players got their N64 and their copy of Super Mario 64, played it through, and then returned the N64s to the stores. The rest is history.
I have no doubt that the PS3 will sell based on name-recognition alone (in spite of the price tag). The real test will be whether people keep playing it after having real hands-on experience with it.
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Recent estimates have Nintendo shipping four million (or even up to six) by the end of December. If that can't keep up with demand, I have to say, that would be awesome for the Wii.
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Please note that Sony's move to beef up it's Blu-Ray players for home/commercial use is directly related to the lower shipment numbers of PS3 units. They all use the same basic devices, and it was an intentional choice by Sony to ship fewer consoles and ship mor
Higher Price on Ebay (Score:1)
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
Why ship the systems when you can ship two million people who play it instead?
The timing is predictable (Score:5, Interesting)
Sony's quarterly earnings release was at the end of last week (Oct. 12th, http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/info/SEMC/200610.h tml#block0 [sony.net]). The talking heads will not give any negitive outlook prior to an earnings release and the quarterly investor conference calls. Also, unless it's a slip-up corporate communications will not voice "lower than expected" earnings, growth, results or whatever unless it's at the end of the business week towards close of the market. This is a tried and true practice of letting bad news simmer over the weekend so it can be often offset with good news sometime next week. So, expect some sort of positive communications from Sony next week sometime.
NOT A NEW STORY (Score:2)
Hey, um, guys, there's not actually any content to be seen in the linked article. All it says is that Sony is not going to hit its expected ship targets this year, and that this is going to cost them money.
This isn't news. We've known for months now that they wouldn't hit their initial ship targets. Nothing in this article says that Sony is not going to hit the revised ship targets that Sony detailed after TGS. 2 million consoles by the end of the year with 6 million by the end of March is precisely i