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First and third (Score:5, Insightful)
They are not exclusive.
Paranoid or not... (Score:5, Insightful)
The relevant question is: are you doing something about it (or just feel ashamed that someone may call you paranoid)?
Re:First and third (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly. Widespread surveillance is made to have something to use against potential threats (to national security? Nope, the nation is what is being spied. To the status quo? that's more likely and always happened in the past).
But most of the targets are not harmful. It's just nice to be able to blackmail or convict everyone if the need arises.
Rigging the game (Score:2, Insightful)
They're not after me personally, but the NSAs and GCHQs around the world changes how everything works.
With such detailed information about everyone, they can silently make indirect key changes that tips the world in whatever
direction they so desire. Politicians they dislikes are given a steeper hill to climb, as things tends to work against them.
I think the US or UK or any countries that has such secret, uncontrollable, and powerful adversary working against
its own population from within disqualifies it as being a democracy.
Re:Paranoid or not... (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh ha ha! Silly tinfoil hatters! (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's make a poll. Those silly guys keep talking about how the government is spying on all of us. Those silly tinfoil hatters!
Oh, my. There is a cabinet in a major data interconnect area siphoning off all data. Probably nothing. Imagine what those silly tinfoil hatters are gonna say about it! Ha ha. Let's make a poll.
Oh my. There are some leaks showing potentially massive surveillance of everyone, but probably nothing. This is gonna suck. Those silly tinfoil hatters are gonna have a heyday with this.
Oh my. The executive branch has been conclusively shown to be wholesale spying on everyone, and lying to the legislative branch about it, and the legislative and judicial branches have been proven to be at the best lax in their duties to reign in the executive branch.
Let's make another poll making fun of the tinfoil hatters.
Re:First and third (Score:5, Insightful)
But most of the targets are not harmful. It's just nice to be able to blackmail or convict everyone if the need arises.
Exactly. This is what we should be scared of.
What about this option? (Score:5, Insightful)
"They could not care less about me, but all it takes is one guy two hops away for them to be one step away from breaking down my door"
Re:First and third (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm glad the NSA has an excuse to collect data on everyone. It's almost certainly harmless to Average Joe, so it is okay, apparently.
I never said it's okay. I'm just saying it's really really low on my priorities list and certainly not worth a scare. At most, I can keep it on the back of my head, as in "it's there" and nothing else.
Maybe other people have lots of free time and can spend resources on this whole thing, but me, my family and all my friends have more important things to to, like minding our plain, boring, not really entertaining lives.
none (Score:4, Insightful)
All of the options are 20th century.
The very point of what has been revealed is that none of this is true, and the truth is much worse.
They don't watch you or keep a file on you. And they care and don't care at the same time. Basically, you don't exist except as a metadata field until someone mentions your name and asks for your data. Only then, because they are vacuuming up everything can they run a big search and create that huge file on you on demand. And not just on you, on everyone.
William Gibson was right. If he had written stories about what is reality today, 20 years ago we would've laughed about how over-the-edge paranoid he is.
Re:We're family. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: First and third (Score:3, Insightful)
You have time to post on Slashdot, but not too think about whether your government is overstepping its bounds and if it should be reigned in? perhaps you need to reexamine your priorities here.
Re:They had it years ago.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Mod "+1, Frightening"
Re:First and third (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm glad the NSA has an excuse to collect data on everyone. It's almost certainly harmless to Average Joe, so it is okay, apparently.
I never said it's okay. I'm just saying it's really really low on my priorities list and certainly not worth a scare. At most, I can keep it on the back of my head, as in "it's there" and nothing else.
Maybe other people have lots of free time and can spend resources on this whole thing, but me, my family and all my friends have more important things to to, like minding our plain, boring, not really entertaining lives.
You don't deserve democracy. You ought to live in Iran or Saudi Arabia to see how much a real democracy is worth. Then you'd care. Because it's because of you that one day, overstepping its bounds once more, the government of america will be a totalitarian regime. And you will still not care.
Remember the old story:
First they came for the jews. I was not jew so I shut up.
Then they came for the muslims. I was not muslims so I shut up.
Then they came for the XXX. I was not a XXX so I shut up.
Then they came for me, and nobody said anything....
You deserve to be deported. You and your busy life living you BBQs, plain with beer, sausages, pork ribs and Coke. Live a happy life. Until they come for you. But by then, don't expect anyone to stand up for you. Not me, nobody here, noone.