Sony Discusses Plans for the Playstation 3 132
1+1trouble writes: "Gamespot is running an article outlining some rough features of the PS3. There isn't much to be said yet, but you can certainly see where Sony is going with it. I wouldn't be surprised if they struck some kind of deal with Tivo. From the sound of it, one can hardly tell if it will be a gaming console at all." I still don't have a PS2, why am I caring about the PS3, huh? I need my Tekken Tag! Curse CowboyNeal!
There are a few reasons for this (Score:4)
Certainly any statements about Playstation 3 are for the same purpose as the initial tiny 'leaked' tid-bits of the PS2 way back when -- hype. The hype machine stole Dreamcast sales from Sega, because of those people waiting for a PS2. So Sony wants to have the hype on PS3 early so that even some people will think twice before they buy a Microsoft X-Box 2.
However I am not surprised they would start on the PS3 right away, since they have the lifetime of the PS2 to design it. It's not like the video card industry. In order to stay competitive (the release cycles are insane for video cards) companies like Nvidia and ATI are forced to sometimes have three teams working on three separate products -- the next chip, the one after that and the one after that. In order to have a release every 5-6 months or so, they don't have the luxury all the time of building on previous chips all the time. So several teams have to work concurrently to get that chip out and stay competitive.
Re:My advice to Sony on making the PS3: (Score:1)
Re:This opens up whole new areas (Score:1)
I imagine the effect is best when the sun is low in the sky but still bright.
Of course... you could approximate this with some sort of hack, but my point is that if you dither the geometry up to pixel-size (polygon reduction), the image might not come out the same as if you rendered all of the sub-pixel geometry and then dithered the image.
As another example, think of zooming from a leaf out to a bird's-eye view of a mountain range. How do you render that? Say there's ten million trees in view.... do you render them as spheres with texture maps? Where do the texture maps come from? Do you have texture maps for all those levels of resolution? And each tree has to be somewhat individual to get that "realistic" look. What happens when wind blows through the trees? Do you have individual textures and animations for all that too?
For certain scenes, it seems you *have* to render sub-pixel geometry to get photo-realism.
-Erik
This despite the fact that even now developers... (Score:1)
Vermifax
Whoa (Score:1)
No PS2 for me! (Score:1)
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
Why hope that the X-box in particular smacks the PS2 down? Frankly, if I wanted to play American-made games (yes I realize that X-box's games won't be exclusively American) then I'd just play them on my PC. I expect to play a different type of game on a console. I play those games on my Playstation and on my Dreamcast.
I would hate to see Sega or Sony (but mostly Sega) go away because of the games on those consoles that you just can't get anywhere else. I didn't buy a Dreamcast for Quake III Arena.
Re:SONY,SEGA et al (Score:1)
Coupla facts for y'all. (Score:1)
They have TOTAL control over X-Box development, and about $8 per disc royalties. This is no different to the situation with Nintendo, Sega, or Sony.
Re:I know this is a troll but... (Score:1)
Re:Tekken Tag? (Score:1)
Re: Not exactly unbiased (Score:1)
Sony recently threatened retailers to pull all X-Box advertisement or risk not getting ANY PS2's. And I think its quite possible that Sony is leaning heavily on square to have them develop only for them.
"The number one reason for the N64 cartridge format was a combination of control and greed."
Actually, load time was a major factor. Control, sure control is an issue, but that is mainly because Nintendo has had up until now very tight quality control. As for price, i can't comment on that.
As for the X-box giving the developers the choice, do you really think EA and Konami et al will release regionless games? Heck no then they would have to have simultaneous language releases or risk having everyone import.
As for price, I agree that there really isnt enough knowledge on either console to determine it, but it will probably end up having both N and MS eat a substantial amount of loss.
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P3? *shakes his head* (Score:1)
PS3 IS ALREADY OUT (Score:2)
YES, I've had one for years now and all I have to do is UPGRADE it every so often. Sure, upgrading costs a little more than the newest console, but I get all my games for FREE! In fact, my PC can play atari, NES, SNES, SEGA MASTER SYSTEM
Who cares if I have to use win98 to run all these games, I get my OS for free too! And when winME becomes the minimum requirements for these games, guess what, I'll upgrade my computer to that for free as well!
I sit at home and for free I can play more in-depth games with better graphics and more options, while some of my best friends are standing outside in the cold overnight to shell out a week's paycheck for the latest system that will be obsolete in a year and a half, only to find that they will have to PAY for all the games they play on it, even sometimes RENTING games!
Most of these people are even waiting for the PS2 HARD DRIVE to come out and the KEYBOARD and the MOUSE that they will have to pay tons of money for. And how much is it for that 8MB memory card? CRAZY! They are trying so hard to turn the console into a PC! These people think it's so cool that they can connect to the internet with their dreamcast when I've been doing the same with my computer for i don't know how long.
Go and shell out your cable company that extra 20 bucks a month for service and fuck it, even pay a warez site 10 bucks a month for leech access. That's 30 bucks for unlimited games dudez! Either that or go to Toys R Nutz and play your TEKKEN TAG and SSX for 40 bucks a piece with no options for adding player patches or extra levels and a limited 8MB to store your extras at.
The choice is yours but somehow I feel that you'll fuck it up.
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:2)
SONY,SEGA et al (Score:2)
Whoa!? Kinda Weird, eh? (Score:1)
Sounds like Sony has REALLY changed their attitude about news releases. Of course, with as many problem as they're having with the PSX2, I can see why...
Just a thought and rememberance...
Not 'Uh oh' (Score:1)
Sony announces robot to replace Aibo called "FUD" (Score:1)
Re:BeIA on PS3? (Score:1)
Hmm... Interesting idea. The BeOS filesystems and slick media architectures would make for an interesting console...
But... I don't see it happening.
MS vs Sony (Score:2)
Here is how i see the future of console wars: short supply of PS2s until the 2001 Xmas season leads to low PS2 sales in the US market. Sony beefs up the production to meet the Xmas projections, but by that time MS ships a bit delayed Xbox in volume. MS marketing gives the perception to US consumers that their console is the newest, the most powerful and has the most games. Majority of consoles bought during Xmas 2001 are MS Xbox. Sony and Nintendo sell mostly to niche markets resulting in huge inventory problems.
To get back on the top Sony begins to hype up PS3 as a replacement for your PCs and internet appliances. In retialation MS begins to ship internet access, home productiving and other home user software for Xbox. With a huge installed base, MS again is capable of leveraging itself into another market. What we now know as a PC becomes replaced with MS branded consoles, with MS controlling the software, components and i/o devices.
That's great, but... (Score:2)
Not concerned about PS3 (Score:1)
Re:This opens up whole new areas (Score:1)
I've given this some thought over the years, and I'm not sure "indistinguishable from reality" is going to be possible without a huge, HUGE amount of polygons.
Now, to render your office, or even a forest scene or a city scene, fine: take your 2.4 billion polygons and run. But let's try to render a beach scene. Each grain of sand has the capability of sparkling and making a pixel white... even ones quite far away. But different ones sparkle as the camera moves, so you have to render each one with reflectivity and all. Are you going to render all of those grains of sand out fifty yards away until they can no longer flash a pixel at 640x480?
Say there's 2500 grains of sand per square centimeter (50 on each edge) That's 25,000,000 grains of sand per square meter... even if you only have to render that detail out in a 5x5 meter area, we're talking 625,000,000 grains of sand on the surface... now let's model them realistically so when people walk on the sand it caves in just right... oh, and render some waves and sea grass in the background while you're at it?
2.4 billion polygons, my bottom.
-Erik
Re:Please? (Score:2)
Great news for you! Nintendo have made a console for GAMES, not an interactive central entertainment hub, and because of this the GameCube will be lauching cheap.
$199 is the maximum that the GameCube will launch for in the USA, with rumours (that are very likely untrue) that it might go at $149 to undercut the other two.
Any console getting Mario, Metrod, Wave Race, Star Wars and Zelda (just to name a few) all fairly close to launch will have a very strong lineup just from 1st and 2nd parties. And with the 3rd parties starting to appear and leak (Capcom and Resident Evil 0, EA with 'Sport 200x', Acclaim with Turok just to name a couple) the GameCube is on course to have the best QUALITY of games. And we all know that quality comes over quantity...
Nintendo won't win back the crown this generation; this generation will probably be a three(or two)-way tie. But with the sad lineup of PS2 games at the moment, and a probable launch delay (typical of Microsoft- they don't even have finalised dev kits to developers) from the overhyped and overrated Xbox [ign.com] (you have to look at this image [ign.com] rebutting MS fud), Nintendo should regain a large portion of marketshare this time around.
Hrmm, I think I got carried away again ;)
Anyway, these are just a few of the reasons while I'll be buying a GameCube on day 1...
shouldn't they... (Score:5)
Re:Hahahaha (Score:1)
Wow, what a change!
Re:Please? (Score:2)
Nintendo is also awful with software launches because they don't pressure Miyamoto enough to hurry up and finish the games. Incidently, he may be a great game maker, but he's a lousy programmer from what I hear because he likes to focus on the smallest details very early in the development. Later these details have to be scrapped or greatly reworked.
Yes, I have heard rumors that the Gamecube will be $200 or less. If it comes at that price tag and has a good Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or whatever game to ship with it, I'm probably there.
Please? (Score:2)
yes, I know that in today's world, sony rules the world and what not
but no matter what I still Like nintendo ...
could the guys at slashdot please make a new ps2 topic, so for those of us who like nintendo, sega, or even atari don't have to be bothered with ps2 related matters
thank you
I'd be happy if they even stuck to the PS3. (Score:2)
They've been accepting pre-orders on the PS9 since the ad was on the drawing boards...
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console wars... (Score:1)
... is obviously a school kid.
School kids are forced to enter insane debates where they eulogize the console they own because they can't afford to buy another one.
Anyone older (and employed) and still serious about playing games has at least a PS,PS2,DC,N64,gameboy and several PCs.
Or... um, is that just me?
Anyway, it's nice being able to buy games without looking at what format they're for.
FUD? Or Just Vapor? (Score:2)
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
Steady there, don't get a hernia. (Score:1)
All right, let's say the Xbox wins. Sony, Sega, Nintendo are blown off the financial map and/or bought by Microsoft. Do you think this would advance innovation in game development? Do you really?
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Re:Uh oh..... (Score:1)
_Adam Poulos ;
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
Re:Exactly... (Score:1)
Re:This opens up whole new areas (Score:1)
And a reference to Sandra Bullock instead of Natalie Portman...
my-oh-my, times are a'changin'
CompUSA Had PS2's (Score:1)
Aciel
aciel@speakeasy.net
Nooo (Score:1)
What happened was that they could produce the PS1 in mass quantaties, but could not produce the PS2 in similarly large amounts.
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Re:SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN article referenced on Games (Score:2)
Re:This opens up whole new areas (Score:2)
You can do many things with extra polys. For instance real reflections (not reflection maps) can be done by rendering the scene again from the POV of the reflecting poly. Shadow volumes can be created by a trick involving the stencil buffer, the z buffer, and a render from the POV of the light.
There will ALWAYS be a way to use the abiltiy to transform and render extra polys, no matter how many you have
PS3? PS9! (Score:1)
Sony has a real problem.... (Score:2)
The Dreamcast looks a whole lot better.
Fry's is selling a LOT of Dreamcasts.
The failure to include a low-pass filter (generally referred to as "full screen anti-aliasing") in hardware really cost Sony in market perception. Yes, it can be done in software but not without eating up a lot of system resources
Add to that the market opportunity they created for SEGA by Sony's failure to meet the market demand they created and you have, basically, a disaster.
Mu guess is that Sony has mreo or less given up on this round and is pinning their hopes on getting ahead of SEGA in the next one.
Re: Not exactly unbiased (Score:1)
That's a good point. However, I was just talking about third-parties. The move you mention was pretty low for a company like Sony.
"And I think its quite possible that Sony is leaning heavily on square to have them develop only for them."
Actually, I've seen quite a few MS Xbox interviews that hint otherwise. Evidently, there's something planned with MS/Square at the Tokyo Game Show ...
"Nintendo has had up until now very tight quality control"
Nintendo's quality control is no better than Sony or Sega's.
"Heck no then they would have to have simultaneous language releases or risk having everyone import."
A simple fact: A majority of *normal* consumers don't import, let alone care if it's an option.
"but it will probably end up having both N and MS eat a substantial amount of loss"
Sony is the one with a severe lack of five-star games and running into every possible problem along the way. Don't ignore the fact that the PS2 is still *way* out of a reasonable price range for it to dominate.
_Adam Poulos ;
Lead Time (Score:1)
The planning does have to begin now, however. Currently, all they can talk about are theoretical limits and projected pricetags. With Sega's "giving up," of home hardware systems and focus on software, Sony is hinting that the dismal sales of PS2 might demand the drop of their home hardware biz.
Why did I say "dismal?" Because had they released their original estimate of systems, 1 million, they would have sold them out in 1-7 days. Instead they only sold half that many and have been trickling ever since. Dreamcasts outnumber Playstation 2's. Hardware sales are usually at a loss and made up in licensing sales. And lastly, Sony charges less for licensing, hence the cheaper-than-Nintendo prices, making their profit margin lower.
In the long run, however, I predict the sales will be wonderful, and the DVD player feature will topple the competition. Next time, however, expect Sony to license the hardware spec for PS3 to an exclusive manufacture for about 12-24 months sales period so they can make money immediately.
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Re:shouldn't they... (Score:2)
Dyslexic
It's Star Wars all over again! (Score:1)
Cool, but when you look at it in retrospect, kind of cheesy. It was the best thing going in it's time, with a good story, but what the heck were those crappy blockouts around the Tie Fighters?
Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back = PS2
Unsatisfying, because it is only a middle episode. There only to bridge the gap from the opening story to the finale. Lots of foreshadowing (Yoda: No, there is another). Kind of hard to get, but it's Star Wars, so it must have been good, right?
Episode VI, Return of the Jedi = PS3
In theatres EVERYWHERE. You couldn't swing a Lightsabre without hitting one. Finally, wrapping up a story, and adding in a bunch of midgets in fur that help take on an empire!
Episode 1, The Phantom Menace = PS4
This is where we go back to the beginning, to see how it all started. We find Shinichi Okomoto soldering together an Atari 2600 (sans plastic case) and causing a temporal rift in the space time continuum. Ken Kutaragi comes in to buy young Okomoto from the junk dealer, Commander Taco. Alas, Taco loses the Tekken, and must sulk back to his junk pile filled with Super NES and monochrome Gameboys.
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
You do have a point. On the other hand, there is still the possibility of the following scenario: MS develops the Xbox, it rocks, people buy it, the other consoles die, MS is left with a monopoly. What happens then? What if MS decides they want a monopoly in game development, too? Once they have a stranglehold on the console market, it's going to get really, really tough for other consoles to carve out a nitche for themselves. That means even if the quality for the Xbox games starts to plummet, console gamers will be left with no other choice. And since bad games are always cheaper to make than good ones...
Like I said, this isn't my area of expertise. Is there a reason why this won't happen?
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Exactly... (Score:1)
Ok, so there are advantages to having the exact same hardware. The main reason is probably the opportunity for profits that come with keeping your hardware proprietary; you can only buy PS2 accessories/upgrades from Sony, for example. But look what that did for Apple.
You'd think they'd see that video/audio/gaming/telephony apps will trivial for low-cost PC's by the time the PS3 would be ready.
Or do you think there will always be a market for the newest, cutting-edge bells and whistles applied to entertainment?
Re:Not much information (Vaporware??) (Score:1)
If you find sorting through your porn collection 'tedious,' you need better porn.
No, neither (Score:2)
If this were FUD to freeze sales of X-Box and G-Cube, it would also have the same effect on PS2; people would wait for the PS3 instead of buying PS2s!
As for the 1000x more powerful, that's debateable. If it's expected to be 5 years from now, in the same age of operation as the PSX, then it will be at least 30-50 times more powerful, if only using Moore's respective laws. If they optimize and plan carefully, they may realistically get 100-200 times more powerful, but 1000x seems a bit, well, generous.
As for vapor, it's long term planning. Lack of long term planning wouldn't bode Sony, or any corporation, well!
As for PS2 killer games? What about Sons of Liberty? Don't forget FF10!
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Playstation 3 specs revealed!!! (Score:1)
CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine" X 1000
System Clock Frequency: 300 MHz X 1000
Cache Memory Instruction: 16KB - Data: 8KB + 16KB (ScrP) X 1000
Main Memory Direct Rambus (Direct RDRAM) X 1000
Memory Size: 32MB X 1000
Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2GB per Second X 1000
Co-processor: FPU (Floating Point Unit): Floating Point Multiply, Accumulator x 1, and Floating Point Divider x 1 X 1000
Two Vector Units: VU0 and VU, Floating Point Multiply, Accumulator x 9, and Floating Point Divider x 3 X 1000
Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS X 1000
Re:Exactly... (Score:1)
In Australia
Playstation 2 = $750
Celeron 700 system with monitor, 10gig hd, 64 meg ram = $999
Not that much of a difference anymore...
Of course, the ps2 will probably, slowely come down
Re:Too early... (Score:1)
Re: Not exactly unbiased (Score:1)
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Yes they should (Score:2)
In case you hadn't noticed. That was sarcasm. I can't stand it when people say things like that. "Shouldn't India concentrate on getting food to the poor before they start trying to put down Internet lines?" It makes no sense whatsoever. There are thousands upon thousands of people who work for Sony. They neither can nor should have them all working on the same problem at the same fucking time, moron. God, do you really think that making an announcement that they had been thinking about a ps3 will slow down the ps2 in any way whatsoever?
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Miyamoto. (Score:2)
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Rendering what? (Score:1)
Amber Yuan 2k A.D
Re:Miyamoto. (Score:2)
And I realize he probably doesn't code much anymore, if at all, but the fact remains that he's too picky and gets too sidetracked. His projects take too long.
Hype machine (Score:2)
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Re:SONY,SEGA et al (Score:2)
Re:What a Bunch of Losers You Guys Are (Score:1)
It's beaches.... not like it's a big loss. Had it been anything other than a Bette Midler flick, I would be worried.
I think the console did you a favor.... Be thankful!
Re:No, neither (Score:1)
:)Fudboy
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Don't do what Sega did (too many consoles). (Score:2)
BeIA on PS2 - What are the odds? wasRe:BeIA on PS3 (Score:1)
Typo Link: http://www.evila.com/ Hahaha. Thanks, Sony.
No Biggee (Score:1)
Re:shouldn't they... (Score:2)
Joe doesn't understand that different departments have different tasks and that each department is almost completely unrelated to each other.
What they see is SONY just giving up on the Playstation 2 before anyone even has a chance to buy it with the promises of something 1000 times better. Also, since this is a public release, it implies that it's "right around the corner" although SONY announced the PS2 in 1995, if I recall correctly.
It's all about public perception, which is absolutely everything in this business.
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
Third parties.
You have to realize that in the big picture MS is going to make a fraction of the total games for the Xbox. Why would all of the other developers just decide to slack off because there are no other consoles? If anything they will strengthen, because they will have all of there development teams working on the same console.
PS3? (Score:2)
Re:Please? (Score:2)
Currently, nothing impresses me right now. The Dreamcast has nothing at all to offer me, despite its mature presence in the market, and the Playstation is even worse, costs more, and can't even be obtained.
The other two systems, Gamecube and X-Box, are nothing but specs and marketing fluff. Unless Dreamcast gets some games like Lunar or I can buy the Playstation 2 for less than $200, my most likely candidate for a console purchase is the Gamecube (when it costs less than $200 that is).
I haven't ruled out the X-Box of course, but if all the games are going to be a bunch of Quake and Tomb Raider ports, forget it.
Currently, it's the Playstation with the occasional Nintendo64 for me. And if the games dry up, hey, I have a huge backlog of NES, SNES, Master System, Genesis, MSX, (and the list doesn't stop) of games to play.
Re:This opens up whole new areas (Score:1)
Well, sure, you could even model the universe down to its component quarks if you like. But at some point, you've hit the resolving power of the human eye and the additional 'reality' isn't going to be seen. Your beach example is a good one. Individual grains of sand far away just aren't going to have an effect. When the scene is generated, a single polygon is going to represent a large amount of sand, and the image will be completely realistic. The point the original poster was making that at some certain number of polys, you won't be able to tell the computer-generated version from the real thing. Let's assume an HDTV screen size of 1520x1280, which is about 2,000,000 pixels. At a frame rate of 32fps, 2.4 billion polys/sec would mean 75,000,000 polys/frame, which would give you @38 polys/pixel. I'd be willing to bet that that would be about as realistic as you could want.
Dreamcast 2 (Score:4)
PS9 ? (Score:1)
thats all.
Re:Why can't you get a PS2 Taco? (Score:1)
Re:And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:1)
If Microsoft makes a great console then awesome, but I don't think they're going to eliminate Nintendo or Sony out of the market. And dammit, give MS a chance in the console market, I don't think they've really done anything "bad" since talk about the XBox began, if they have, then someone fill me in. I have high hopes for XBox because at least this version seems focused on Games. Hell, there isn't even DVD movie support right out of the box and MS has come out and said that that is NOT the main focus of the XBox. So if they do this right perhaps they'll set the example. I, for one, don't care who it comes from as long as whoever it is sets a good example.
From the article (Score:3)
A lot of these things were plan originally for the Playstation 2. It was supposed to have a hard drive built-in (now being added by a third party), ethernet and a remote for the DVD player (now being added by Sony). In addition, it was supposed to used Sony's Memory Stick, not their current memory card (Sony probably realized they needed backward compatibility with the interface to use the old Playstation games -- along with making an extra buck because people will pay anything for memory card [$30 for 128K of original Playstation memory nowadays, anyone?]).
The whole thing, in retrospect, was supposed to be a server for the home. The final product was a lot more toned down.
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Re:Seriously PS2 == Ass (Score:1)
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Nah... (Score:1)
This is probably something Gamespot threw together to try to attract some hits on a big topic,it wasn't an official announcement or anything.
Re:FUD? Or Just Vapor? (Score:2)
NES: killed the TurboGraphix 16 before the SNES even came out and held the Genesis at bay.
SNES: held up against the Saturn and Playstation until Nintendo could release the N64. If I recall correctly, Donkey Kong Country 2 sold more units during the 1995 holiday season than all the games for these two systems combined.
N64: It's debatable this system couldn't hold up to the Playstation in the first place, but it's still around, holding its own to the Dreamcast and Playstation 2.
GameBoy: Released in 1989. Currently the only game in town (in the US, at least). Need I say more?
Re:Too early... (Score:2)
Sony Merging Industries? (Score:1)
Is it just me, or is Sony hyping (not building, not yet) a computer rather than a console? The article on GameSpot describes some of the features Sony is reportedly planning to include in the PS3: online shopping, banking and "other Internet services." Whatever happened to the good old days when a gaming console just played games? I'm not griping over change -- it's not necessarily a bad thing to add new features to a console, and the PS2's DVD-playing function was probably a slick move -- but it seems to me that when gaming consoles were just that -- GAMING consoles -- the games were far superior. Sony needs to quit pumping new features into its products until they figure out what to do with the ones they've got. (Nintendo, by the way, has publicly stated that they are planning to make the upcoming GameCube games-only. This is why they have a history of excellent games, and why they rarely make a bad in-house game: they let themselves focus on the games alone.)
As for other insights, most of them have already been stated: The PS2 just came out, so why the hell do we have PS3 hype; the Dreamcast is a superior console; so on so forth. These are all true. Go spend your money on a REAL gaming console.
inigima
Re:Already talking about PS3? (Score:2)
Too early... (Score:1)
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In the next release... (Score:5)
One of the main contributors to the development of PS3 is a committee from Iraq, who shared their opinions on what they would like to see in the next release of this powerful console. Some of the requested features include self-guiding missiles support, stronger console casing, able to withstand the rugged military life, as well as an Arabic interface.
Re:FUD? Or Just Vapor? (Score:1)
And this is why I hope the PS2 fails (Score:2)
Why it doesn't matter is Sony goes away (Score:2)
Try and find one game SONY made that is good. I would have said the Gameday series, but 2001 for the PS2 is a joke.
So it doesn't matter if they die and go away. All the games will just appear on other consoles, because its just third parties doing the work.
Um. Ever heard of EverQuest? (Score:2)
Re:LET'S BE FAIR (Score:2)
Re:SONY,SEGA et al (Score:2)
Yes, Final Fantasy VII was a killer game, but the Playstation's $50 price drop helped A LOT.
Re:MS vs Sony (Score:2)
Album? Why did I say that? (Score:2)
This opens up whole new areas (Score:2)
The present PS2 can process 20 million polygons per second. One article I read said that to get complete realism (i.e. indistinguishable from film of real live things) you need 2.4 billlion polygons/sec. This would seem to imply that PS3 woud be capable of rendering scenes that were as good as film (actually, almost ten times better. Can a scene be 'better than live'? Interesting question ...). This says to me that the PS3 would have the potential of showing what would amount to movies that were completely artificially generated. Even more, completely interactive, since they'd be created on the fly. This would open up completely new areas of entertainment. Imagine telling your PS3 to replay that scene, but remove Sandra Bullock's clothing this time. Or ... well, you can imagine the possibilities.
A related news item... (Score:3)
VAPOR will also carry 1,000 times the computational and mechanical ability of Aibo. Sporting highly powerful servomotors which Sony is currently developing, VAPOR will be able to reach peak running speeds of 120 miles per hour and maximum jumping heights of 20 feet, and be capable of a steel-like bite of over 3,000 pounds per square inch. Said one unnamed engineer assigned to the project, "It will surely strike terror into the hearts of burglars and postal workers alike."
In addition, its sleek metallic form will sport enormous computational capability, using a teraflops-scale processor which Sony is planning to begin planning very soon. Furthermore, VAPOR will utilize Autonomous Intelligence (AI) and a special hardware port to connect directly with the planned Playstation 3 to provide little children and hapless twenty-somethings without friends with formidable video game competitors.
Lastly, VAPOR will be able to connect directly to the internet and download songs released by Sony Records in its proprietary ATRAC digital music format and bark along with the lyrics to provide its owners with hours of listening pleasure.
Said Sony Corp's President and CEO, Noboyuki Idei, "We see a convergence in the home security system, attack dog, and home entertainment markets. Leveraging our unique position as a corporate juggernaut, we plan to corner this growing segment of the consumer electronics marketplace."
LET'S BE FAIR (Score:4)
MrX
Already talking about PS3? (Score:3)
Sony to world: (Score:2)
A lone clump of tumbleweed rolls across the scene...
Not much information (Vaporware??) (Score:4)
Well, yeah. Of course they're going to say that. Like every other company in the world they don't want to look like they've got nothing in the pipe so they come out and announce their newest product, which isn't even really designed yet, will be able to do everything imaginable.
"Hey, don't buy the XBox, in a year or two we'll have a system that can actually categorize your porn for you! None of that tedious self-sorting."
It's nothing. There's no specs, there's no hard information, there's nothing. Not even really worth reading.