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Nintendo Fined $143m for Price-Fixing 447

kyz writes "The BBC is reporting that the anti-trust branch of the European Commission has fined Nintendo 146 million euros (roughly $143m) for preventing its distributors from selling games as cheaply as they are sold in other European Union countries. For example, "prices of Nintendo products were up to 65% higher in Germany or the Netherlands than in Britain". Now if only the EU could do this with Microsoft, Levi Strauss and the MPAA members..."
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Nintendo Fined $143m for Price-Fixing

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  • by pheph ( 234655 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @12:49PM (#4565115) Homepage
    Does anyone else remember getting a check from Nintendo (in the late 80s) for like $5 or $10? Apparently they were price fixing the NES Unit for $99, and were order to pay a fixed amount to every registered NES owner.
  • This is nothing new (Score:5, Informative)

    by Zaknafein500 ( 303608 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @12:54PM (#4565171) Homepage
    More than 13 years ago, Nintendo was sued by the Attorneys General of all 50 states for price fixing.

    The Intimidation Tactics of Nintendo [geekcomix.com]
  • Makes a change. (Score:4, Informative)

    by GothChip ( 123005 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @12:55PM (#4565188) Homepage
    Normally it's the UK that has the highest prices in Europe.

    But the period they were fined for was only 1991-1998. That still leaves the past 4 years to be accounted for.

    But then again Gamecube games are still a lot cheaper than X-box and PS2 games if you know where to shop so maybe they have learnt their lesson.
  • Wrong number.. (Score:4, Informative)

    by k98sven ( 324383 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @01:10PM (#4565333) Journal
    The number is EUR 149 million.
    Read the press release from the European Commission. [eu.int]
  • Re:So... (Score:3, Informative)

    by f97tosc ( 578893 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @01:11PM (#4565351)
    Nintendo competes in one of the fiercest markets around.

    That was not the case in the mid 90s Europe, the market which the allegation is about.

    Tor
  • It was Smash Bros. (Score:2, Informative)

    by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @01:16PM (#4565389) Homepage Journal

    Coins exploding from his body Sonic the Hedgehog style?

    No, that's rings, and that's when you get hit, not when you die (as "explode" in the blurb implied). Coins come off a dying player in Super Smash Bros. Melee.

  • by punkass ( 70637 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @01:24PM (#4565452)
    Wow, in the time it took you to probably type that snide comment, I found this [geekcomix.com]. Did you register your NES decks, and did you purchase them between June 1, 1988 and December 31, 1990?
  • Register follow up (Score:4, Informative)

    by OrangeSpyderMan ( 589635 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @01:26PM (#4565470)
    The Register is carrying another story here [theregister.co.uk] with evidence that Nintendo expected a far smaller fine - around 50M. An interesting read that'll make you think twice before publishing MSWord docs to all and sundry :-)
  • by M3wThr33 ( 310489 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @02:06PM (#4565860) Homepage
    Nintendo has already changed it's method of distribution YEARS ago. That is why they are appealing.
    The EU contacted NOE, and they cooperated and fixed the problems, now the EU is back stabbing them.
  • Re:Good for them (Score:5, Informative)

    by pyrros ( 324803 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @02:16PM (#4565954)
    and the EU isn't even democratically elected!

    ok, I'll bite.

    The EU [eu.int] is run by five institutions, each playing a specific role:

    * European Parliament (elected by the peoples of the Member States);
    * Council of the Union (composed of the governments of the Member States);
    * European Commission (driving force and executive body);
    * Court of Justice (compliance with the law);
    * Court of Auditors (sound and lawful management of the EU budget).

    I trust that you'll believe me if I told you that the goverments of the member states are democratically elected.

    The comission [eu.int] "has a college of 20 members. The President, the two Vice-Presidents and the 17 other Members of the Commission are chosen for their general competence, and all present guarantees of independence. They have all held political positions in their countries of origin, often at ministerial level.

    The Commission is reappointed every five years, within six months of the elections to the European Parliament. This interval gives the new Parliament time to approve the Commission President proposed by the Member States, before the President designate constitutes his future team, in collaboration with the governments of the Member States. Parliament then gives its opinion on the entire college through a process of approval. Once accepted by the Parliament, the new Commission can officially start work the following January. "

    That's ok for me, so let's go on to the Court [eu.int]
    The judges and the advocates-general are appointed by joint agreement of the governments of the Member States for a renewable term of six years, with partial reappointment every three years. These are members of the highest national judiciary or jurisconsults of recognised competence presenting all the guarantees of independence.

    Again, it sounds good to me

    Finally, The Court of Auditors [eu.int] comprises 15 members appointed by the Council for a renewable term of six years, ruling unanimously after consultation with the European Parliament.

    So the main bodies of the EU are either elected by the people or appointed by elected officials. I really don't see what your problem is.
  • Re:Rights (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @02:30PM (#4566126)
    Yep you are correct, partially. They are allowed to sell their product for any price they wish. But they were also preventing games from crossing the border. THAT is the illegal part, not the prices themselves.

    They were caught by laws *requiring* free exchange of goods across borders.

    If there was a proper free market, then they would have been forced for business reasons to getmore uniform prices. The market wasn't free in this case.
  • by Daetrin ( 576516 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @02:58PM (#4566444)
    Presumably because all of Europe is under one DVD region. The EU's purpose is to handle things between it's different member states, it has no authority over trade between EU states and other non-EU states, or at least not the same level of authority.
  • Re:Good for them (Score:2, Informative)

    by tordia ( 45075 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @03:27PM (#4566741) Homepage
    I don't have time to go through all of your list, so I'll just point you to other people's complaints on some of the easy ones - Home Depot, State Farm, P&G:
    Home Depot [homedepotsucks.com]
    State [statefarmsucks.com] Farm [ep.com]
    Proctor [pandgkills.com] & [pginfo.net] Gamble [seac.org]

    I wasn't sure how easy it would be to find info on the other companies, but it was pretty easy... Here's some links for the other companies, just for fun:
    Boeing [antiboeingcoalition.org] (2) [endgame.org]
    Morgan Stanley [floodwallstreet.org]
    Fannie Mae [votenader.com]
    Apparently, [target-sucks.com] Target [tripod.com] isn't [angry.net] well-liked, [dontshopattarget.com] either. [baddealings.com]
    Safeway [shameway.com]

    Granted, you may not agree with all of these people's opinions, but the complaints are there.

  • by schon ( 31600 ) on Wednesday October 30, 2002 @03:40PM (#4566882)
    I normally don't respond to trolls, but I have a few minutes to kill.

    I wasn't aware any of these corporations are non-profit charities.

    Nobody said, or implied, that they were. I have no idea where you got that.

    What's wrong with maximizing profits by adjusting prices in different countries?

    It's called price gouging. Perhaps you've heard of it. It's morally repugnant. There is a difference between making a tidy profit, and gouging the consumer.

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