Sega Master System is Reborn 207
Nick of NSTime writes "Various sources are reporting that a Brazilian company is releasing a new version of the venerable Sega Master System, dubbed the Sega Master System III. The case is a radical departure from the old SMS and SMS II. The thing to get excited about: it will include 74 games built-in. The translated page can be found here."
Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (Score:1, Informative)
yeah, that's a bad thing :( (Score:5, Informative)
Well I do know and I can tell you, this because of a de-valorization of brazilian currency (real) that is making every imported product very expensive.
The big difference between videogames and computer was the price, but with low offer and a Dollar being 3.6 Reais, a ps2 (imported, sony dosen't build playstations here, they say because if piracy, but it's their fault there is piracy, it's kind sof loophelp) is R$ 1300 (there are varations).
Gamecube, that is build here by gradiente is arround same price.
Well, the thing is that
1. we get our sallaries in reais, not dollars, so rellatively, a videogame for us is almost 10 times the price in esa
2. the difference between "in development" contries from europe/usa/japan is bassically that we gain less money for the same job, so besides being more expensive, we have less money to expend too. The minimal sallary in brasil is R$ 200, the medium is R$ 500. How can you buy a product that is R$ 1300 if you have to pay for food/rent/live?
3. releasing older videogames is a way to make cheap videogames. Most poor people dosen't care if they videogame can play Final Fantasy X or DVDs, they don't have money for the games, cds or dvds anyway...
4. master system 3 price is arround R$ 300
5. I already forgot about buying a ps2
6. the only sollution for all this problem is for semi-condutors where made in the own market contry.
But this won't happen, because USA is supporting heavilly those companies to stay there (see the case of microsoft judgement, they said they could move to canada and Bush's administration made a "cool" deal with them).
So basically tectoy is attacking a market that always existed here, but was dominated by illegal importation from paraguay: poor people.
I do like the idea. I do want poor people have fun with videogames too, even that are old ones and I hope tectoy do have suscess.
Not so new... (Score:4, Informative)
...old news is new again [sarcasm on] (Score:5, Informative)
This isn't really anything amazing. Tec Toy originally released this system back in 1989. Granted that release only has 21 games built into it at the time. I belive they released a second one in the mid 90's that had a larger number of titles. This is the same hardware, just more games built in. For more info on the SMSIII, check SegaBase [atani-software.net]... scroll down the page about 1/2 way.
Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/brazil/brazil.html [atarihq.com]
Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (Score:5, Informative)
The master system was somewhat sucessful down here, and im pretty familiar with the platform.
This is just a short summary of all of the good sonic games released. Im not putting in crap like Sonic Spinball or Sonic Blast (not sonic 3d either, although sonic 3d wasnt really crap)
*Sonic 1 came first on the genesis/megadrive.
*A Master System version was made. Very different from the Genesis/Megadrive, but just as good, still heaps of fun.
*Game Gear port released. Same as master system but due to the game gears smaller screen (and less resolution) it was, well, smaller.
*Sonic 2 for the game gear got released first this time.
*Sonic 2 for the genesis/megadrive released
*Sonic 2 GG ported to the master system.
*Sonic Chaos released for the Game Gear. Best of the SMS/GG sonic series for some, although I prefer sonic 1. You coult use Tails as a playable character this time.
*Sonic Chaos ported to Master System. Average port, some slowdown.
*Sonic 3 released for the Genesis
*Sonic & Tails released for the GG in japan.
*Sonic & Tails released elsewhere as Sonic Triple Trouble. Never got ported officially to SMS, as it was pretty much dead by now in everywhere but brazil. If you looked around enough, you could probably find a crappy port, i dunno, but any brazillian GG -> SMS port is really REALLY bad, so avoid.
Yes, it's legal. (Score:5, Informative)
There are also "official game hacks" made by them, such as "Sapo Xulé", "Chapolim Colorado" and "Monica no Castelo do Dragão". They hacked some games (Psycho Fox, Alex Kidd etc) to sell based on some known characters.
Some games were also produced by them, such as the "Duke Nukem 3D" version of Mega Drive, a platform game of "Pica-Pau" (Woody Woodpecker) and "Show do Milhão" (Brazilian "hack" of the TV show "Who wanna be a millionaire?").
So it's not like those "Polystations" (damn horrible Famicom -- or NES -- clones inside a Playstation case) or those "controllers with a huge amount of games inside", it's just another version, such as those being released by Majesco.
Unfortunately it's a stripped-down Master System, so you don't have a slot to plug-in your 3D Googles or Sega Cards...
Re:yeah, that's a bad thing :( (Score:1, Informative)
Faltou falar das taxas de importação de 70% que ajudam a tornar um importado 3 vezes mais caro do que lá. Um notebook por exemplo, legalmente importado custa R$10.000.
I believe people didn't get the point on this....: (Score:5, Informative)
I wish I had something better to say, and could see this as a great console rebirth ( I personally love SMS's R-Type ), but it's not... it's simply a consequence of poverty.
Kisses,
jessie
Re:More companies should follow suit... (Score:2, Informative)
Tec Toy had legal rights for Master System console and games distribution in Brazil. All those games were legally distributed here, with licenses acquired from Sega (which sublicensed some other games, like Power Strike).
Yes it is (Score:2, Informative)
Tectoy is a great toy company here in Brasil and they are making master system and a lot of other sega consoles and games since I was very young(now i 'm 18). I'm sure they where granted by sega to make this console and all the games that come with it.
Also brasil is not comparable to china. Here we have patent law just like in the us. I don't know what you are afraid of, piracy is not legal here.
Comments on the Brazilian videogame market (Score:4, Informative)
Consoles rarely cease to be manufactured and sold. Any mainstream store has, at this very moment, Master Systems, Mega Drives, Saturns, Dreamcasts, NES, SNES, Nintendo 64s, Game Cubes, Playstations and Playstation 2s. Just walk into the store now and buy your shiny, new, Master System or NES system. All legal.
Why do they do that? Price. There's something for everybody there. Furthermore, many stores allow their customers to play all the consoles and you'd be surprised, sitting near the testing stations, to learn that most young kids actually prefer 16-bit era games. They are just simpler and cuter, and mom and dad can actually buy one for each child in the home and maybe also one as a gift for a good neighbour.
Master System is not reborn ! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:More companies should follow suit... (Score:4, Informative)
Tectoy is the Sega licensee for years in Brazil. They introduced the SMS as the first second generation console in Brazil (at about the same time, but a little earlier than any NES clone), making Brazil one of the places where the SMS was most successfull. They later introduced the Mega Drive (Genesis), which was another hit, and all later Sega consoles. They have an old and good relationship with Sega. In Brazil, Tectoy is Sega and Sega is Tectoy.
Actually, the history of Tectoy is really nice, even tough I don't remember correctly. It was founded at the end of the 80s, by two guys who decided to create a company to sell tecnological and intelligent toys. And the toys were really neat. Having lived the end of my childhood around this time, I remember always wanting (and usually not having) the cool tectoy toys. After they entered the console market, I think they stopped working with the other products, what was a pitty.
Re:More companies should follow suit... (Score:2, Informative)
Search no more,you want a very good Nes emulator, search for dreamcast factory( Google is your friend), this freeware tool lets you make your own bootable emu cd, any of them, but imho the best around is NesterDC ver 7.00, this emu rocks.
very easy to use just follow instructions put your roms in the apropiate folder, and voila your dreamcast is reborn as an emu machine, the second best emu is GNU boy a great port made by takayama fumihiko, also nester dc creator.
Now that my dreamcast is dead, what the heck, lets go retro!!
sorry for the off topic.
BTW as far as i know tec toy has the authorization from sega to make the machines, in fact there never was an import genesis, as tec toy asembled them over there, and if you think that piracy is a problem in Brazil, just take a walk in the streets of my country, venezuela, even I get to sell some burned cd some times, low salaries+high import taxes+greedy retailers= piracy running amok.
Sorry for my english, it`s not a language i get to use very often, nos vemos luego...
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Re:More companies should follow suit... (Score:3, Informative)
You wot? Since when were emulation and playing on a TV mutually exclusive?.. I relive the joys of NES, Snes, Mastersystem, Megadrive (Genesis to all you American folks), and countless other systems - MAME, too, of course, on my telly, via emulators, and my graphics card's TV-out.
The hardest thing, IMO, is getting hold of a decent joypad for the PC. Maybe I'm just picky, but there doesn't seem to be a really good one out there. However, there are many ways to convert original console joypads to work with the PC.. and of course, if you've got the cash for it, there's the X-Arcade, too.
THERE WAS sonic for SMS (Score:2, Informative)
- Sonic 1
- Sonic 2
- Sonic Chaos
- Sonic Spinball
Re:No Phantasy Star? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Game gear as well! But is it legal? (Score:3, Informative)
As a historical note, Sega also made a portable genesis known as a Nomad. It had six buttons on it (like the fighting controllers for genesis) and was compatible with all expansions except segacd. It is not directly compatible with 32X but people have gotten it to work anyway, though only with an external display. The nomad is essentially a second generation genesis with a small (but pretty good) LCD and an atrocious battery life. It uses the same power supply as the game gear, which means you can use the car power adapter from the game gear with it. It takes full-size genesis games. Forgotten Worlds doesn't work with it, so I'm selling mine. :P
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Informative)
Re:yeah, that's a bad thing :( (Score:3, Informative)
translation:
You neglected to mention the import tarrif of 70% which help make an imported item three times more expensive than there (I assume they mean the USA). A notebook, for example, imported legally, costs R$10,000 (what is that now, US$3,500?).
A little clue into the reason this system exists (Score:2, Informative)
Unlike the rest of the world, the Master System caught on heavily in Brazil, kinda like VCD in China. 3rd-party games were made and marked in Brazil well after the Master System died in other countries.
This company in Brazil bought rights to manufacture the hardware after Sega stopped selling it. Hence the reason the page is in Portuguese. I somehow doubt that the system would be offered in English, let alone sold to other countries. I think they only have the rights to sell those in Brazil.