Kasparov Draws Game 4 and Match Against X3D Fritz

jaydee77ca writes "Garry Kasparov survived opening danger and played very precise, technical chess to draw Game 4 with black against X3D Fritz. The final match result is a 2.0 - 2.0 draw, proving yet again that the day of the machines has not yet arrived."

It's shoot-out time

[qewl]

What we need next is a one-on-one shoot-out between Kasparov and a robot, both armed with old German lugers. My money's on the robot.

Has anybody...

[Theatetus]

...ever heard of a game called "Go"? I'm amazed it's never discussed when we talk about computers playing chess.

In Soviet Russia...

[Theaetetus]

... computer beats you- oh, wait, no it doesn't.

In other news, SkyNet units have been seen closing in on Gary Kasparov. An intercepted transmission read: "take him out, and the humans will be defenseless!"

-T

And with this draw...

[Anonymous Coward]

And with this draw, Kasparov saves Zion from total annihilation by the sentinels. /me runs atop ledge to proclaim "Kasparov did it!!! He saved us!!!"

Day of machines?

[AvantLegion]

The "day of machines" is not when a man-made computer can beat a human at chess. Chessmaster kicks my ass all the time, but that doesn't mean my Athlon PC dominates me. I can still turn the bitch off, or program it to eat itself.

No, the "day of machines" is when machines can create and operate without any human intervention. Clearly, machines can be made to be stronger than humans, and perhaps one day they can be smarter (in everything, not just a highly-specific application). When machines can be both unequivocally stronger and smarter than humans, and do not have to rely on humans to create and maintain themselves, then we'll have a "day of machines".

Meanwhile, my Windows PC can't manage to stay running for a whole day. My Linux server and my PowerBook can, though. Microsoft is fighting to stem the tide of the "day of machines", but Apple and Linux zealots are pushing it forward and will be the death of us all!

Re:Battle Chess

[IthnkImParanoid]

Bah, that's not real battle chess. It's not real battle chess unless my knights can slice limbs off opposing knights, and my queen can liquefy pawns.

That was real battle chess.

Reminds me of...

[CrazyTrashCanHead]

Completely OT, but funny as hell:
(Excerpt from World Chess Championship Game 3)

1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 f7-g6
3. b1-c3 f8-g7
4. e2-e4 d7-d6
5. g1-f3 Qrs-e5

At this point, Karpov tries a new tack with Qrs-e5 (Queen from right sleeve to e5).

6. f1-e2 e7-e5

Kasparov obviously hasn't noticed Karpov's innovative move. Karpov returns to traditional play.

7. c1-e3 Blb-g3 / JbKS

Under the subtle cover of JbS (Jackboot to Kasparov's shin), Karpov introduces a third bishop into play.

8. LIF-KRE d8-e7

Kasparov responds with his trademark LIF-KRE (Left index finger to Karpov's right eye).

9. d4Xe5 $^$%#$

Karpov instinctively howls in pain and immediately offers uncouth theories concerning the likely species of Kasparov's parentage to general audience.

10. Q - KLN Q-KLN

Mutual exchange of Queen to opponent's left nostril.

GAME SUSPENDED FOR TEN MINUTES BY JUDGE

11. c3-d5 e7-d8

It appears the hostility between the chess masters has subsided.

12. SsKH BRHAKH

It appears the judge was mistaken. 10-pound sledgehammer swung by Kasparov in a bold attempt to pin down Karpov's head.(SsKH) Karpov immediately falls back on the classic Beretta Defense (9mmRc-HsAKH - 9mm pistol removed from concealed shoulder holster and aimed at Kasparov's heart)

13. KRMcC ...

Kasparov revs hidden McCulloch chainsaw.

GAME DECLARED A DRAW BY OFFICIALS

14. KRTT-JF KRTT-JF

Both express extreme displeasure at judges' decision and cunningly respond with the little-known Rin-Tin-Tin Gambit (politely urinating at judges' feet)

14. KKRF-AP

Kasparov and Karpov removed forcibly from arena by angry policemen.

Game 3 is obviously over. Now, for a play-by-play analysis, Mikel Erickson and Michel Joseph from the World Chess Federation.

Erickson: You know, I really feel that Kasparov took control of the match when he attempted to pierce Karpov's cornea. I thought that took real determination, and proved Kasparov's dominance in the cutthroat world of chess.

Joseph: Unfortunately, I can't agree with your assessment of the situation. I'm squarely behind Karpov here. Kasparov didn't display any of the personal integrity I think is critical for a champion. I liked Karpov's honesty with his fifth move, but the way Kasparov concealed that sledgehammer just goes to prove you can't judge a book by its cover.

Erickson: Oh yeah! Well, let me tell you what I think of a certain chess commentator I'm being forced to share this mike with!

1. ertt-jf

What's the big deal?

[jht]

I, for one, welcome our new grandmaster-level chess machine overlords.

Not quite true

[toddhunter]

The day of the machines is the day we try to play chess with them, and they tell us to piss off because they have better things to do.

Re:I BEAT THIS GUY

[YouHaveSnail]

Are you sure it wasn't some 14 year old teenage girl masquerading as an old man on the Internet?

These things have been known to happen.

Re:For those of us without flash...

[Anonymous Coward]

{60MB, DELL8200} 1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 e6 4. e3 Nf6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. O-O a6
7. Bb3 cxd4 8. exd4 Nc6 9. Nc3 Be7 10. Re1 O-O 11. Bf4 Na5 12. d5 Nxb3 13. Qxb3
exd5 14. Rad1 Be6 15. Qxb7 Bd6 16. Bg5 Rb8 17. Qxa6 Rxb2 18. Bxf6 Qxf6 19. Qxd6
Qxc3 20. Nd4 Rxa2 21. Nxe6 fxe6 22. Qxe6+ Kh8 23. Rf1 Qc5 24. Qxd5 Rfxf2 25.
Rxf2 Qxf2+ 26. Kh1 h6 27. Qd8+ Kh7 *

|\/|4s73r! 1'|\/| 0n1y 4 1337-sp34k n00b - \/\/0u16 y00 734c|-| /\/\3????

Re:Kasparov runs on limited hardware, too

[kavau]

By looking at the games of this match, and the previous one where Kramnik played against a computer program (which one? was it Deep Fritz?), it seems to me that most of the computer's wins are due to terrible human blunders (see this match's second game, or emotional imbalance (as when Kramnik, after defeating the computer soundly in an early match, suddenly shifted to a very aggressive style, and lost badly). Hence you could attribute most of the computer wins to "defective hardware" on the human side.

Maybe, in order to make things more fair, the computer should be plugged into the Ontario power grid without a backup power supply ;-)

Re:good for our egos?

[Mike Hawk]

better than a tool can! (Personally I root for the block of silicon ;-)

Since humans tend to cheer on humans, but you root for the tool, what does that make you?

Re:one move

[Mantorp]

I'm not a chess player, I'm an impatient gamer all around. I used to get my ass beat by a chess computer back in the early 80s.

Re:Kasparov runs on limited hardware, too

[Xerithane]

Anytime, anywere... as long as the game is played using the traditional time rules. Nobody even tries to play against the top computers in 5-10 minutes per player games. Even the top players get smashed.

They just need to use hardware as old as the opponent to make it a bit more fair. I can beat a 386 in a 5 minute game no problem, just by using a few no-fail techniques.

Re:how will chess handle cyborgs?

[mcpkaaos]

I imagine they'd be too busy trying like hell to stay out of the rain.

Thanks.

[Anonymous Coward]

That post opened up Excel and crashed my computer, you thoughtless fool.

Re:one move

[Vint Cerf]

If you own an N-Gage, I could definitely beat you in chess.