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Mame on the Nokia N-Gage 217

wraggster writes "The Nokia N-Gage has now joined the club of consoles for whom the excellent MAME (Multi Arcade Machine Emulator) was ported to. Staffan Ulfberg has ported EMame over to the N-Gage - the emulator supports a mass of games."
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Mame on the Nokia N-Gage

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  • by rjbrown99 ( 144423 ) <rjb&robertjbrown,com> on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:24PM (#7632977) Homepage
    You guys bashing the N-Gage are missing the point. I have a Nokia Series 60 3650 phone. It's based on the same Symbian OS that the N-Gage uses. I can use this on my phone. The 3650 is very widely deployed in the US and Europe. This is a great thing not just for the N-Gage folks, but regular guys like me who happen to own one of the Series 60 phones.

    I can't wait to try it. My phone has a 128mb MMC that can store a ton of games. Should be a lot of fun.
  • Re:Yeah ... and? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Tumbleweed ( 3706 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:24PM (#7632978)
    Did you miss the article? Thanks to this port of MAME, there are now many good games for N-Gage! :)

    Besides, what games for a dinky little screen like the N-Gage's would anyone want other than Tetris? Well, maybe Pac-Man.

    I find it amusing the 'screenshots' on this project page aren't even FROM an N-Gage.
  • Re:MAME for Windows? (Score:3, Informative)

    by dcgaber ( 473400 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:27PM (#7633007)
    I am not sure if this is a troll, but will respond anyway.

    There is MAME for Win-32. Requires DOS commands to run the ROMs, but there are also plenty of MAME frontends for windows that are very GUI and let you adjust all your settings and organize your ROMs and point and click to run a game.

    Go here [mame.net] to get it, and look for the FAQ on finding frontends. I have used a few, and they vary. Forgot which I liked best.

  • Re:MAME for Windows? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Comsn ( 686413 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:30PM (#7633032)
    a search on google for "windows mame" returns MAME32, a beautiful windows port of mame.

    http://www.classicgaming.com/mame32/ [classicgaming.com]
  • Grammar Nazi AC (Score:0, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:30PM (#7633036)
    Is the Nokia N-Gage a person? No? Then it's 'for which' not 'for whom.' I know you think using the word 'whom' makes you seem smart, gut you're wrong.
  • It is the only tax-deductible gaming system.

    Seriously... in European high-tax countries this means that the state gives a discount of 40-50% on the item (plus VAT back!).

    Even grown men like to play games now and then. And the N-Gage is surprisingly snappy, not like playing Java games on other GSMs, which is slow and boring.

    MAME on N-Gage is a great addition, Nokia should try to license these arcade games since many of their potential clients (men aged 30+) are probably more familiar with some of them than with the "real" games actually available on the thing.
  • by AndyBusch ( 160585 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:37PM (#7633086)
    Actually, MAME no longer supports Pong. Pong didn't run in a ROM-style architecture. So, when it emulated Pong, it was all in the source code, which means they were distributing a game internally to the code, which went against the spirit of MAME, so it was removed from the code somewhere around .55.
  • by Big_Ass_Spork ( 446856 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:41PM (#7633125) Homepage Journal
    Sure... on taco's site: http://cmdrtaco.net/cabinet/ [cmdrtaco.net].
  • Re:Bah! (Score:3, Informative)

    by GoRK ( 10018 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:47PM (#7633182) Homepage Journal
    Man, the Star Trek vectrex game was horrible even by Vectrex standards.. It was just an endless shoot-em-up space game and it had nothing to do with Star Treck except that they were both set in space.

    The Vectrex could draw text on the screen. They should have at least pretended to add a bit of a plot (one line of text would have improved the game 10000%!
  • by TonkaTown ( 186808 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:50PM (#7633218) Homepage
    Actually it's not, I can tell you've never been near one for at least three reasons:

    1. If you use it traditional phone style, you really don't have to hold it in the exagerated sidetalkin' style, it's fine held more discretely and a hell of a lot more comfortable in the hand.

    2. It comes with a wired headset, which has a few uses, it's the antennae for the built in FM radio, it means you get to hear our MP3s in stereo, and you can use it for non taco-stylee phone calls.

    3. Oh yeah, it's got Bluetooth too, and Bluetooth headsets are great, you keep the phone in your pocket and your hands are free for driving or whatever.

    The only possible reason I can see for sidetalkin' with the N-Gage is that it does look pretty funny and maybe it's a good way for spotty teens to visually shout out "LOOK AT MY NEW TOY".
  • Re:So does... (Score:3, Informative)

    by albat0r ( 526414 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:53PM (#7633249)
    many n-gage games, including Sonic-N, can be run on other smartphones, such as the Symbian
    First of all, Symbian isn't "another smartphone", it's an OS. Second, there's a lot of smartphones that use Symbian OS, and one of them is the Nokia N-Gage. Other Symbian OS phones include the SonyEricsson P800, Nokia 3650, BenQ P30, Motorola A920, Sendo X Smartphone, etc.So, if a game is able to run on the Nokia N-Gage, for sure it runs on Symbian OS! (but probably not all devices running Symbian OS...)
  • They won't (Score:3, Informative)

    by ColourlessGreenIdeas ( 711076 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:56PM (#7633276)
    The NGage is an open system, so anyone can write games for it. That's why it costs so much*; Nokia has already got enough profit when you buy the device and they don't care if you never buy an official game. The hack simply means that cartrige games can be pirated and run on other Series 60 phones. It's always been the case that anyone can go out and write software for the NGage without paying Nokia a penny. (There's a special games SDK that comes with some games libraries or somesuch that costs money, but this won't use it)
    *Actually, it's now available for free with a contract here in the UK, but the network is subsidising that, not Nokia.
  • Re:So does... (Score:2, Informative)

    by TonkaTown ( 186808 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @05:58PM (#7633295) Homepage
    A little clarification on this.

    Many N-Gage games will work on other Symbian Series 60 smartphones (such as the 7650, 3650, 6600, Siemens SX1, Sendo X), no big surprise really, as the N-Gage is a member of the series 60 family of devices. [symbian.com]

    There's an interesting article on MAME and other games on Symbian devices on Mobitopia [mobitopia.com]
  • by Echnin ( 607099 ) <{p3s46f102} {at} {sneakemail.com}> on Thursday December 04, 2003 @06:03PM (#7633348) Homepage
    Ever heard of eMule?

    Here are a few games for you. [sharereactor.com]

    Site is VERY slow, but obviously as soon as you get the links in your client, you'll enjoy P2P and stuff.

    Alternatively, you can download from Suprnova [novasearch.net] with BitTorrent.

    So there you have it! Have fun buying memory cards if you want to bring all those games with you at once.

  • by kidgenius ( 704962 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @06:05PM (#7633369)
    or, for the cost of media, u can get the roms from theFreeMameRoms [freemameroms.com] project.
  • by thesolo ( 131008 ) <slap@fighttheriaa.org> on Thursday December 04, 2003 @06:11PM (#7633428) Homepage
    Actually it's not, I can tell you've never been near one for at least three reasons:

    I have to disagree, it's still dead on arrival for one main reason: changing games.

    Those three positives you mentioned (and bluetooth is a big one, in my opinion) don't outweigh the fact that to change games on an N-Gage, you have to do the following:

    1) Turn the unit off (which means, turn your *phone* off).
    2) Flip it over, and remove the battery cover & battery.
    3) Take out the very tiny game chip, replace it with a new game.
    4) Replace battery & battery cover.
    5) Turn unit back on, wait for system to load, go to the right menu, and then start your game.

    Compare this to a GBA, where the steps are turning it off, removing the game cart, putting in a new one, and turning it back on. Especially compare this to a GBA if you're on a train, bus, streetcar, or any other form of public transit. Try easily changing a game on the N-Gage while crammed into a seat on a subway.

    This flaw in their design absolutely kills any of the positives of the system, and makes it, at least to me and many other people, D.O.A. Not to mention that I personally really don't want to turn off my phone when I swap games.
  • Re:How Long... (Score:5, Informative)

    by rbeattie ( 43187 ) <russ@russellbeattie.com> on Thursday December 04, 2003 @06:20PM (#7633527) Homepage
    Actually, Nokia is promoting the use of MAME [n-gage.com] on its N-Gage site.

    -Russ
  • by strictnein ( 318940 ) <{strictfoo-slashdot} {at} {yahoo.com}> on Thursday December 04, 2003 @06:38PM (#7633699) Homepage Journal
    You don't like the X-Arcade? Interesting, I've tried a lot of different setups, from home brewed to some other professional companies, and I think the X-Arcade is by far the best. And I don't quite get where you find the x-arcade "flimsy". The wood they use is pretty damn solid. I've had a number of pretty large parties since I've finished my mame cab, and the controllers have been beaten to hell and had beer spilled on them and everything, the only thing I had to do was replace a couple sticky buttons (a $5 fix).

    Of course, I overcome the "desk-sliding" part by having the two that I own built into a stand that is attached to the cabinet.

    The lack of a trackball or spinner does suck, but there's only one game that I would ever play that uses either of those (arkanoid). /. will use the icon at every opportunity since they make 15%

    How do they make 15% when they don't even link to x-arcade.com?
  • by Aelfy ( 727873 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @07:08PM (#7634017)
    you show me someplace I can go and pay to play all of those games and I'll be there

    Try:
    StarROMs [starroms.com]

    *Very* limited selection of legal ROMs for purchase - pretty much only about 50 Atari ROMs at the moment, but I'm sure the catalogue will grow, given enough support.
  • StarRoms (Score:3, Informative)

    by JMZero ( 449047 ) on Thursday December 04, 2003 @07:17PM (#7634119) Homepage
    For money, they sell legal Mame roms. They've made the deals - it's perfectly legit. Use them, and perhaps they'll expand their currently limited catalogue.
  • by Kris_J ( 10111 ) * on Thursday December 04, 2003 @09:06PM (#7634951) Homepage Journal
    I can use this on my phone.
    Actually, you can't -- you don't have enough RAM. 6600 owners can use it though.
  • by Kris_J ( 10111 ) * on Thursday December 04, 2003 @09:13PM (#7635007) Homepage Journal
    Sorry, no. The game swap issue is not a deal breaker, given that hundreds of games and at least four emulators supporting possibly as many as 5,000 games total can all just be loaded onto a single MMC. Heck, with the cracked games doing the rounds, you can have them on your MMC too. There are 512MB MMCs that are compatible with the N-Gage.

    I have at least 150 games with me on my N-Gage. When you're carrying around a GBA, how many carts do you have with you? The answer is often one, making swapping games completely irrelivant.

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