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Women Over 40 Biggest Online Gamers 78

Ooby writes "MSNBC and Reuters are reporting that women over 40 are the biggest online gamers, according to a study conducted by AOL. What's even more interesting than being outnumbered by middle aged and older women is this: 'More than a quarter of those women, the survey found, play their favorite games between midnight and 5 a.m. Women in the poll tended to favor word and puzzle games.' I thought that was prime time for FPS kids."
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Women Over 40 Biggest Online Gamers

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  • "Word games" (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Yert ( 25874 ) <mmgarland3NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @12:37PM (#8249679)
    Literati [yahoo.com] is HUGE between midnight and 4am Central Time. It's packed, and words like "nodosity" (109 pts. yay, me.) fly across the board.

    Of course, I'm nowhere near 40 -or- female, and prefer CounterStrike, but hey, gotta stimulate the brain once in a while, right?
  • Sure is (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @12:37PM (#8249680)
    i know a bunch of old ladies that are addicted to Pogo.com, Yahoo games, ect...
  • My Ma (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Codger ( 96717 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @12:42PM (#8249727)
    My 76-year-old mother has been a gamer for years, since she got her first Atari game console. When I helped her set up her new eMac a couple months ago, one of the first things she had me do was transfer all her old classic games over from her old Mac. She likes puzzle and card games the most, but she's been known to play blow-em-ups as well.
  • Re:Sure is (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:01PM (#8249906)
    i know a bunch of old ladies that are addicted to Pogo.com, Yahoo games, ect...

    It's sad, but I have to raise my hand too. Since I bought my mother a computer several years ago she's become a fanatical "online gamer". She started off with a Bingo game on Yahoo which moved to Pogo.com I believe, then she started playing other games like some balloon popit game. Then she really started getting into it heavy when she moved on to using Yahoo Messenger WITH voice and camera. This is a 65 year old grandmother I'm talking about chatting on Yahoo Messenger like she's a 14 year old freshman. WTF? Why can't I have a normal mother that just bakes cookies instead of talking to dirty old men on the Internet? (she's a widow).

  • by bmyers ( 643397 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:07PM (#8249953)
    My wife was in a sewing class the other day, and two of the other four women there were online gamers -- one (19 yrs old) played DAOC and the other (mid 50's) played Ultima Online. They said they play for many hours per week.

    I'm not sure if it's statistically significant, but a 50% gamer ratio at a sewing class has gotta mean something!

  • by kisrael ( 134664 ) * on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:18PM (#8250097) Homepage
    Coolest "non-gamer" online game:
    isketch [isketch.net], which is basically Pictionary in an online/chatroom setting. It picks a sketcher, gives 'em a word, and then awards points based on who gets it first. I love games that are creative as well as addictive.
  • by *weasel ( 174362 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:24PM (#8250177)
    Exactly - when they include puzzle, card and word-games in your 'online gaming' survey, they're going to get results that are going to be used disingenuously.

    This is analogous to suggesting that women play the majority of 'games' in real life, because the number of female Bridge clubs vastly outweighs the gender seperation in professional athletics.

    The qualification of 'online game' to begin with is the problem.

    No-one would likely argue that there is a gender distribution in free low-tech online games roughly consistent with population distribution overall.

    The interesting question of 'women in games' is: why aren't women playing console games, massmogs, multiplayer strategy/fps/rpg/etc?

    Truly, what end does this survey tell us? That women aren't afraid of the computer or the internet? Did anyone ever assert that being technophobes is responsible for the gender gap in commercial gaming?

    Simply, there are more people playing poker on yahoo games alone than are playing counterstrike. There are vastly more people who play games on AOL than all massmogs combined. The male-dominated games become statistically insignificant when the net is cast this wide. Particularly when they obviate distinctions between gamers willing to pay for games, pay monthly for games, and deal with 3d cards and driver updates to play online games.

    Again, the only questions that are interesting are: where are the women in commercial online gaming, and why aren't they showing up?

    and this survey answers neither.
  • by JavaLord ( 680960 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:28PM (#8250232) Journal
    women over 40 are the biggest online gamers, according to a study conducted by AOL.

    Most serious gamers wouldn't be on AOL, and most likely would be on a local ISP or some type of broadband.

    What's even more interesting than being outnumbered by middle aged and older women is ..

    Not really, since the study is skewed by only surveying AOL'ers who tend not to be or use AOL for online gaming. AOL online gamers may mostly be middle aged women, but that doesn't mean all online gamers are mostly middle aged women.

    It would be like doing a study in a urban area, like say Detroit and from those statistics trying to prove all of America is a ghetto. It just doesn't fit.

    midnight and 5 a.m. Women in the poll tended to favor word and puzzle games.' I thought that was prime time for FPS kids."

    of course, because male or female, old or young, if they wanted to play a FPS, MMO, etc they would migrate off of AOL to a local dialup where they would get better bandwidth, or more likely to a broadband connection

    Attempt to do this study to comcast, speakeasy, roadrunner, etc and you will end up with the typical 18-30 year old males being the most common type of gamer. It would be interesting to see the genre breakdown though.
  • Re:My Ma (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pr0c ( 604875 ) * on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:34PM (#8250325)
    Same here.. I setup linux on my mom's machine because she was sick of windows crashing (win98) and didn't want to upgrade to winxp. All she was worried about was her flash and java games and the little games like solitare etc. Linux comes with way more little games than windows so its perfect for women like her I suppose.
  • by American AC in Paris ( 230456 ) * on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @01:57PM (#8250620) Homepage
    ...you're assuming that AOL only surveyed it's user base. That's probably not the case. Most of the articles I've seen regarding cite several thousand participants in a nationwide, online survey; it makes no mention that the survey was restricted to AOL's subscriber base. (I haven't yet managed to find the report itself--please set me straight if I'm wrong on this.)

    Just because AOL is doing the study doesn't mean they're only polling their own users. After all, a political pollster will (usually) want everybody's opinion, whether or not that person says they're of the same political party as the candidate who's doing the poll...

  • by *weasel ( 174362 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @03:31PM (#8251810)
    Because they're too complicated and hard to pick up
    First, this is purely misogynistic. If this was the case then no-one would be a 'new' player in counter-strike, quake, or unreal. Unless you're suggesting that women are somehow genetically inferior to men, then one would expect that as many men would pass on multiplayer games as women. By extension, this would suggest that only as many men would take to multiplayer games as women do.

    Seeing as how males are taking up the hobby more quickly than females - there just isn't much logical weight to that argument.

    I mean, if you played basketball in real life against Michael Jordan every day and constantly got your ass kicked, would YOU want to keep playing?

    Shouldn't they run into the Michael Jordan of Hearts or Bridge just as often though? Perhaps though, that's part of it. On Yahoo, you can see the ranking of the other players, and generally have a good idea of your chances at winning.

    This is of course completely discounting the lack of importance that card game players typically place on winning as the ultimate indication of their having fun.
  • by eviljolly ( 411836 ) on Wednesday February 11, 2004 @03:55PM (#8252110) Journal
    "The survey was conducted online with 3,613 respondents between mid-December and mid-January, the company said."

    But while we are playing our fps games (ad free), the women are online playing their web based games and suddenly this window pops up asking them to take a survey. Of course the it's going to be a little biased.

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