John Carmack Retiring? 95
Skab writes "CNN money is building a case for hypothesizing that John Carmack's next project may be the programmer's last."
He has not acquired a fortune; the fortune has acquired him. -- Bion
Oh well (Score:3, Insightful)
Just as 2.0 came out...
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So you are a very interesting diesel engine which is commonly used in marine & rail applications which can't spell but sounds really cool...
I'm confused.
No.... (Score:1)
Trust me, he knows Mars!
Re:No.... (Score:2)
Re:Oh well (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Oh well (Score:2)
Re:Oh well (Score:1, Flamebait)
What, both of them?
Chris Mattern
Re:Oh well (Score:2)
Rockets and Impact (Score:5, Funny)
Well, I guess the former's ok but the latter might be bad for your new spaceflight business.
Re:Rockets and Impact (Score:2)
Re:Rockets and Impact (Score:2)
Here's the news release on his recent crash:
http://www.armadilloaerospace.com/n.x/Armadillo
And here's the video:
http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/2004_08_08/
Say it ain't so John (Score:1)
Sad (Score:5, Funny)
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The Parable of Ronald Regan
Donald Regan awoke to find that his arms had been gnawed off by wild beavers in his sleep.
"Boy!" he thought as he bolted upright in his blood-soaked sheets. "It's a good thing this parable isn't about ME!"
- Principia Discordia (SJG edition)
Re:Sad (Score:1)
He's kind of an idol, as much as Torvalds and Stallman, to me. Although I don't have a little shrine containing their images t
Re:Sad (Score:2)
If he does go... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:If he does go... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:If he does go... (Score:1)
...so what? Re:If he does go... (Score:2)
He will?
Doom 3 is the best tech demo ever made and possibly the best mod platform ever made but I'd rank it third or forth best FPS this year.
It's not scary, it's cheap. Yes, it will startle you because stuff will appear right beside the character. After the reload the trigger point is known (though they're almost always obvious anyway).
While I can in no way slight his technical skills, I welcome a game industry without his hand in actual *games*. He freely admits he d
Off Topic: Sig (Score:1)
Re:Good (Score:3, Insightful)
Thief, Half-life, Hexen, Soldier of Fortune come to mind ; as well as many games i might have forgotten.... And don't forget about the modifications either.
I think id software proved themselves to make great engines, and other studios take on the task to make even better games with it.
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Re:Good (Score:2)
Thanks for brushing that one up
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I agree! It sucks how he keeps making other games not fun! What a drag! Not to mention the fact that he is holding back the industry from trying new concepts. When he stops making games, all other games will become much better! I'll finally be able to think of new game ideas.
Hey Moderators - how about modding the parent post down, and instead modding up someone who has some real criticism of Carmack. I appreciate that someone might not like his games, but blaming him for all games being not fun is senseless.
Re:Good (Score:1)
The thing is, developers see Doom3, and think only in terms of small changes.
I have not seen anything interesting in 3D perspective game in a looong time, the only one that comes to mind is the Soul Reaver [eidosinteractive.com] line of games.
Better graphics doesn't make better games. The youth of today doesn't get that.
I prefer IRL fistfighting, so I do that on my spare time. Because it's a challange, and exciting too.
Re:Good (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Good (Score:1, Troll)
So you haven't enjoyed video/computer games since the late 80's/early 90's? Why the hell would the retirement of a programmer who started AFTER you stopped having fun be helpful to the gaming industry?
I was wondering when this would come up (Score:3, Insightful)
I note that this was also bandied around when he was working on the Doom 3 engine, where he said somehting akin to having "one more good engine in him"
Re:I was wondering when this would come up (Score:2)
And isn't he always in favor of Nvidia? Maybe ATI will win from here on.
Putting speculation to rest... (Score:4, Funny)
Should've previewed... (Score:2)
Try this link [slashdot.org] instead.
* Rolls Eyes * (Score:5, Funny)
Developers at Id have all been asked this question at one point in time, and all have said "yeah, he probably has one or two more engines in him." All have pretty much indicated that he has a "holy grail" engine he has constantly been working towards since he wrote his first side-scroller. Once he gets that done, he'll probably go launch himself into space and work on the teleporter on Phobos himself.
Duh (Score:1)
I think I speak for just about everyone when I say (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, OK.
Epitaph (Score:5, Funny)
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When the day comes, sabbatical not retirement (Score:5, Insightful)
The above should not be interpreted to suggest that he will continue coding 3D shooter engines. Just that he will most likely be coding something.
Re:When the day comes, sabbatical not retirement (Score:2, Interesting)
He's probably just burned out.
Game programmers usually don't have really long careers. A big hit or two, and that's about it. Guys will start a company, have a huge game, then it'll break up.
One example would be David Crane, he's made a number of games, from the late 70's (Atari hits like Pitfall!), to the 80's/90's (NES games like Simpsons), to the recent remakes of Pitfall on PC/16 bit consoles.
On the other hand, you've got some of these 'old' guys working on Linux and other open/free projects, that ha
Far less stress in open source (Score:2)
There is far less stress in open source. You have more freedom with release dates, slipping the schedule, features, etc. Not to mention you only have to work on what interests you.
Re:Far less stress in open source (Score:1)
You need to work on games like Daikatana, and Duke Nukem Forever then.
Re:When the day comes, sabbatical not retirement (Score:1)
I'm sure he'll go back to doing what he's best known for sooner or later... especially if the rocket thing doesn't quite work out.
He will never really retire (Score:4, Insightful)
bullshit "journalism" (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:bullshit "journalism" (Score:1, Interesting)
People have asked him what his plans are. They've all been alongs the lines of 'maybe one more game engine', 'not sure after this one', and 'I have no clear plans for my next 20 years of my life'.
Doom 3 failure = lack of John Romero (Score:3, Interesting)
Answer: Simple. Romero would have made it legendary.
Re:Doom 3 failure = lack of John Romero (Score:1)
by putting hellspawned frogs in it?
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I can't leave without my Martian Buddy Superfly!
Re:Doom 3 failure = lack of John Romero (Score:2)
Re:Doom 3 failure = lack of John Romero (Score:2)
True, Romero does make legendary games. Daikatana totaly legendary.
But not in a good way.
Nice try Mr. Romero (Score:1)
Re:Doom 3 failure = lack of John Romero (Score:2)
Answer: Simple. Romero would have made it legendary.
I thought DOOM 3 was an great game. It had a decent storyline, was well paced, and was fun. On top of that of course, the graphics, and the sound and music. All and all, in terms of 'full fledged' games, Doom 3 is id's best to date. Most of their older games were pur
this is so stupid (Score:2)
Waaaaaaaah, I want my mommy! (Score:2, Insightful)
slightly related (Score:2, Interesting)
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Masters of Doom (Score:1, Interesting)
It describes how, when he felt Romero was not putting enough time into the development of Quake, Carmack crafted a quick program to log how much time Romero was on his computer. He later used this data as "proof" that Romero was not pulling his
Re:Masters of Doom (Score:1)
Doom Movie mentioned (Score:3, Interesting)
Finally, there's the long-in-development "Doom" movie. Bounced around Hollywood for years, the rights to the film now rest with Universal Pictures. And, barring production delays, it now looks like the film could be a reality.
Next game announced... (Score:5, Funny)
Lord, we call this news?! (Score:5, Informative)
John Carmack is an accessible public figure. If you want to know, ask him. There's no need for speculation.
Re:Lord, we call this news?! (Score:2, Informative)
It's not his fault that Doom 3 sucks (Score:4, Interesting)
John's engines are great, and the only reason why Doom 3 is disappointing and not much better than CryEngine/Source/X-Ray is that they had time to catch up. How it will work out in the future, I don't know... Everyone salivates about Unreal 3 technology and there are good reasons for it, but I think John may be able to bring another revolution and let's hope the id team will make it in time.
Re:It's not his fault that Doom 3 sucks (Score:1)
Back in 2003 a moderately system with 1.5GHz processor and GeForce4 would probably play the game at ~20 fps in 1024x768. A top system would make it 30 fps. A lower-end system would need quality toned down a bit to get the 20 fps at 640x480.
But that was expected. Even a few months ago people here at
Given? (Score:2)
Now his thing is the space travel endeavor he has started.
But as I said before without Romero Doom 3 isnt the same, perhaps it is time to leave while on top.
John's last line ? (Score:1)
*Washington* state