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Playing the Game Boy DS Online 167

Posted by CmdrTaco from the because-you-can dept.
Torrey Clark writes "NitroOnline is a project that is currently being developed that will allow Nintendo DS owners to play Wireless enabled games via the internet. It will require a wireless router, and a wireless card in your PC or laptop to communicate with your Nintendo DS."
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Playing the Game Boy DS Online

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  • or will they send their hoard of lawyers after this? who knows what their "license" entails

    • This article is pathetic. Do your research ./! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by GFLPraxis ( 745118 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @02:35PM (#11138773) Homepage Journal
      This is completely pathetic. I can't believe this article was even posted.

      1) Nitro Online are complete fools. They continually promise things, then change the story. Check out the current builds, there is hardly ANYTHING there. They have made almost no progress, and make promises that are literally impossible. This article should be about Team XLink, as they are the ONLY ONES who have successfully tunneled the DS.

      2) GameBoy DS? More proof that the guy who wrote this doesn't know what he's doing. The Nintendo DS is N-O-T a GameBoy.

      3) Teamxlink.org. Go there. Now. Seriously, Nitro Online are just trying to steal the limelight.
      • You're totally correct. They have no technical skill involved, and are basically doing a "IS THIS POSSIBLE" forum post as a sourceforge project. Generally, it's a stupid thing to head a project, say you can do it without a problem, post it, and then say:

        "The NO crew are looking for an experienced UNIX C developer with excellent wireless networking skills. Be sure to drop us a message."

        (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_i d =4 25799)

        *bashes head against a table*

        Seriously. If you AREN'T an exper

  • Game Boy DS? (Score:5, Informative)

    by squall14716 ( 734306 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:52AM (#11137197)
    It's called the Nintendo DS. I don't see where the "Game Boy" words came from, but that is not what it is called.

    • Re:Game Boy DS? (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It still has a slot for game boy games.

      Don't get suckered into the marketing spiel targetting older buyers..;D
      • So? Compatibility with Gameboy doesn't make it a Gameboy. Just like WINE doesn't make a *nix into a Windows. ;)

        A bit different I suppose, but the name still doesn't include Gameboy or Game Boy in it. ;)
      • It's not a marketing ploy--Nintendo is still going to release GameBoy systems in the future. They're going to have three areas: console, DS, and GameBoy.

      • The Nintendo DS has a slot for DS games, and it has a slot for GBA games and GBA flash carts containing emulated [webpersona.com] Game Boy Mono (DMG) games. It does not have a slot for Game Boy Color exclusive games.

    • Re:Game Boy DS? (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's called the Nintendo DS. I don't see where the "Game Boy" words came from, but that is not what it is called.

      The editors don't read the articles, and now they've stopped reading the summaries.
    • Hey people just remember to not play Nintendo DS and drive at the same time, and you think cell phones are dangerous.

    • Re:Game Boy DS? (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Auraveda ( 802254 )
      Because in every story about the DS, if the editors just say "DS" in their summary, then someone will post asking what the hell a DS is, and complaining that they should say Nintendo DS or Gamboy DS in the summary so that they know it's a game thing. One would think that the fact that it's posted in the games section, or perhaps even reading the article itself might be a big clue as to what a DS is, but I guess not.
  • They've been teasing the DS community for months now. The clues they've been dropping are interesting too. It's been linked to in other /. posts. Personally I think with the DS soon allowing MPEG4 / MP3 and the multiplayer - it'll be a huge huge project. The Sony Killer

  • this project is a joke (Score:5, Interesting)

    by monkey_jam ( 557265 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:53AM (#11137201)
    these guys have been hawking this project for weeks now, with nothing to show. They have no site and their entire project seems to revolve around drumming up support from all the 12 year olds in the warppipe forums.

    You want real tunneling with the DS? Team XLINK [teamxlink.co.uk] are working on it..

    The Nitro peeps are claiming 100% comaptibility with all wireless NICs in windows. Now this is impossible as most cards will not support promisc mode in windows, not to mention that they ignore BSS stuff most of the time.
    • I don't think we should be saying anything about these types of projects until one is in a beta stage and has something to show about it.

      Honestly, there are a lot of good ideas that are soureforge projects in Pre-Alpha stages. How many projects actually get to beta, though? I'm guessing 10% or less.
    • Yeah, I totally agree. It works great for Xbox too. If you have a Linksys WRT54G router, you can even install a hacked firmware on it and run the XLink Kai daemon directly on there. That's what I do, and it's nice. Oh yeah, XLink runs on Linux, in case that hasn't been answered.

  • Both router and pc card? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lazn ( 202878 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:53AM (#11137207)
    Why would it need both a wireless router and a wireless PC card? It would seem to me the wireless PC card would be enough... (then some form of high speed internet access on the PC)

    ==>Lazn
    • Most likely it will work like Warp Pipe does. Warp Pipe allows you to plugin the IP of the remote game cube and there's also a Warp Pipe finder. Also, the next version is supposed to have chat and other features too.

      One thing that just tees me off a bit about Nintendo is the are crippling it by not setting up obvious games (Mario Kart Double Dash) for internet play and make users have to setup their own network just to play 8 player races. Warp Pipe works around this limitation but they really should h
      • Most likely it will work like Warp Pipe does. Warp Pipe allows you to plugin the IP of the remote game cube and there's also a Warp Pipe finder. Also, the next version is supposed to have chat and other features too.

        The DS currently doesn't implement any TCP/IP communications at all, and therefor doesn't have an IP address. We are currently communicating with the DS at layer 2 (physical link layer), sending and receiving raw 802.11 frames to/from the DS units. Also, 802.11 frames are much more diffacul
        • [edit]. i meant layer 2 "data link layer"... the "physical link layer" is layer 1. (thats what i get for commenting as the first thing i do after i wake up from being up all night working with the DS)

  • Is this even news at this point? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by t0qer ( 230538 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:54AM (#11137210) Homepage Journal
    I checked the link to their forum, about 36 pages of "Please add support for . Going to the sourceforge page didn't reveal any files in the "files" section, and the CVS repository is pretty meager at best.

    Hey, editors, lets do a story on duke nukem forever today!

    Bleh watch karaoke.
  • If you can play it online... What is stopping you from doing other stuff online? Maybe you can even use it as a tiny VOIP (indoor) phone. Use a special cartiage for web browing.. etc!

    • Re:Killer application? (Score:3, Informative)

      by ethzer0 ( 603146 )
      Tunneling the traffic doesn't mean you can run your own code. Unless nintendo creates a telephony app for the system, you won't be able to use it as a VoIP phone. The difference between playing it online and playing it simply amongst a local 'pod' of users, is that the traffic is intercepted and tunneled across the wired internet; Where as the ability to play against your local 'pod' depends on the availability of other DS's. For this particular application, There is no modification on the DS side of things
    • Nothing is stopping it except the fact that no applications exist for said purpose... yet.
    • > If you can play it online... What is stopping you from doing other stuff online? Maybe you can even use it as a tiny VOIP (indoor) phone. Use a special cartiage for web browing.. etc!

      ...or web serving! Because when you've Slashdotted everything else, there's still your friend's Nintendo DS!

    • Wow! They could use this like a portable phone that fits in your pocket! It could even have calendars and address books!

      Oh, wait. Its called a cell phone...

  • "Army of Nintendo Lawyers to Start Sharpening Pencils"
  • would Nintendo pass on the ability to come out with their own "Plug this into your pc and play games online against other people" sort of thing? With the level of graphics this thing has now I'm sure there's gonna be a few new features and addons coming out...
    • They didn't pass on it. The Nintendo DS has built-in Wi-Fi capability already, and they have stated that online play is possible. The only thing that's stopping it is that no games have been released yet that support internet play. But, considering that the console has only been available for a month now, I would expect some online-enabled games to be released, along with the possibility of a stand-alone e-mail/WWW/IRC client cartridge. The hardware is there, somebody just needs to put it to work.

  • A few comments. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Grey Ninja ( 739021 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:58AM (#11137254) Homepage Journal
    Nintendo DS is NOT a GameBoy. Nintendo has repeeatedly said that the next GameBoy will be out at some point in the future, and Nintendo DS is intended as a 3rd pillar. It's incorrect to describe it as a GameBoy.

    And secondly, the Warp Pipe guys aren't the only ones doing this. The Xlink [teamxlink.co.uk] people are also in development of tunneling software.
    • WTF is a 3rd pillar?
      If the gamecube is their 1st pillar, what would be their 2nd pillar?

      I hate these bloody buzzwords!

      Also, I'm pretty sure that the DS IS the 'next' gameboy, but without the kiddie sounding 'gameboy' in the name.

      • Re:A few comments. (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Grey Ninja ( 739021 )
        Well, here's a simple overview. Nintendo has previously had 2 major products. A home console and a handheld. They wanted to make something completely different in a handheld form, but they wanted to give the GBA a longer life. So, the DS was born.

        Nintendo's OFFICIAL statements regarding the DS all say that the Nintendo DS is not of the Gameboy bloodline, and the GBA and the GameCube will still be supported until their replacements arrive. Personally, I think that the next in the Gameboy line will be

        • Game Boy NeXT? Do you claim Nintendo is teaming up with Apple?

        • Well, here's a simple overview. Nintendo has previously had 2 major products. A home console and a handheld. They wanted to make something completely different in a handheld form, but they wanted to give the GBA a longer life. So, the DS was born.

          Nintendo's OFFICIAL statements regarding the DS all say that the Nintendo DS is not of the Gameboy bloodline, and the GBA and the GameCube will still be supported until their replacements arrive. Personally, I think that the next in the Gameboy line will be releas
          • It doesn't have full GBA compatibility like the GBA supports just about all GBC compatibility.

          • Re:A few comments. (Score:3, Insightful)

            by bob65 ( 590395 )
            GB, GBA and DS are all handheld consoles : FACT

            Here's another "FACT": Whatever Nintendo calls a Gameboy is a Gameboy, whatever they don't call a Gamebody is NOT a Gameboy. They could call their next home console a Gameboy, and that would TRUE. Now stop arguing over something that is clearly arbitrary.

  • Pre Alpha? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FortKnox ( 169099 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @12:03PM (#11137301) Homepage Journal
    Slashdot posts a story about a pre-alpha sourceforge project.

    Nice... but at least there's code to show they are more than just talk?
    Umm... no.

    Pre-Alpha... please. How many sourceforge projects are in pre-alpha that have good ideas? And what has ever come out from that?
    This is news... when its in beta and have files available and most people can get it running somewhat. Right now its an idea... and that isn't newsworthy.
    • It's really disgusting actually. This story is a perfect example of how Slashdot has become little more than a technology blog. They are CERTAINLY not a reputable news outlet anymore (if they ever were) and I become more disillusioned with the lack of quality in the editing nearly every time I pull up this site. I just hope Google News pulls them off their index soon so people don't start believing the bullshit they report on.

  • I for one (Score:5, Funny)

    by excaliber19 ( 750206 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @12:06PM (#11137332)
    welcome our pre-alpha sourceforge vaporware 12-year old overlords

  • Pointless (Score:2, Insightful)

    by spac3manspiff ( 839454 )
    The Nintendo DS is a mobile gaming console. It's not meant for the gamer to be tied to their house. I dont think many DS owners will spend much of their gaming time at home.
    • could be done if you have also happen to carry a laptop near a wifi hotspot though

      • could be done if you have also happen to carry a laptop near a wifi hotspot though

        If you have a laptop with you, then why not just play 1- or 2-year-old PC games on the laptop? Your laptop has a bigger screen than both of the DS's screens put together.

  • Wondering ... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by JaCKeL 1.0 ( 670980 )
    am wondering if my Nintendo DS emulator will be able to connect online ;) ...
  • Nintendo's been very friendly about third party software and hardware developers/hacker, for the gameboy that is, I don't know about DS.

    I've heard people developed games and third party peripherals and selling it without getting a back lash, except when you are lik sing. =)
    I don't know about the DS, but there's no official SDK for the gameboy, so I guess you can basically hack that thing make your peripherals without getting nintendo on your ars, because they didn't specify an official development proc

  • Nothing but talk (Score:2, Informative)

    by rhpot1991 ( 799210 )
    These guys have been making claims that can not be accomplished, such as 100% compatability and the project was supposed to be fully released 8 days after anouncing it. Their newest claim is compatibility with all prism based cards and their release date has been pushed back for an unknown reason. I have heard rumors that they got as far as receiving a signal from their DS, but can not figure out the encryption. The fact is this project is nothing but a bunch of 12 year olds begging for programmers in t

  • Begs the question... (Score:4, Funny)

    by StevenHenderson ( 806391 ) <stevehenderson.gmail@com> on Monday December 20, 2004 @12:26PM (#11137508)
    When will we get Pr0n DS? Mmmm....dual screens of erotic goodness... :)
  • This is the best news I've heard all month. I'm getting a DS in 5 days and was really hoping something like this would come around. I got a DS for my girlfriend's little brother and he was hoping that we could play games together even when we weren't in the same places. This is really great news. Now I wonder if it will still support up to 16 players:)
    Regards,
    Steve
    • Don't hold your breath, they have nothing to show yet, they've missed their self-appointed deadline, and act like children on the Xlink boards. Would a serious development team behave in such a manner? I think not.
  • Windows Xbox!
    Microsoft iPod!
    nVidia Radeon!
    Adobe Flash!
    Macromedia Photoshop!

  • Already been done (Score:3, Interesting)

    by seven5 ( 596044 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @12:43PM (#11137679)
    This has been working for a while now by the all might TeamXlink and their Kai app. Check it out, there are a ton of people on there, and they support the PSP too. http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/
    • http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/ [teamxlink.co.uk] don't have support for the DS yet... but they will have 'soon'. They do have support for the PSP right now (it has a very nice and standards compliant WiFi module) but the DS is going to take a little longer. IMHO TeamXlink's Kai is the best hope for DS tunnelling. I'd say Nitro is vaporware at worst, and at best it's a group headed up by non-technically literate BS artists with a few real coders who'll get something working sometime after everyone else has.
      Then there's whatever
  • Just think for the next pokemon game, rather then it be rommed to hell (which it will). They could put a code in the manual which you put in the DS connected to a PC and it'll give you a free legendary pokemon.

    Not an amazing feature but it'd be intresting. I think that's really the best way to look at this, no longer will we have to go "oh well, I'll settle for half" in 2 part games, we can just use this!
  • The Nintendo DS uses a non-standard WiFi protocol, the PHYS and MAC layers are standard, but it's different above that. How else could they seamlessly allow up to 16 DS's to automatically network without IP addresses, DHCP, etc.?

    The people hacking it have apparently modified their Linux WiFi device driver so it can communicate to some extent - it is therefore possible that a DS firmware update, if the DS firmware CAN be updated, could make it fully WiFi compatible. Or, perhaps, full WiFi compatibility is a
    • As per the specs .. Proprietary Nintendo Wireless and 802.11b are both available.

    • Re:Nonstandard WiFi (Score:3, Informative)

      by darkain ( 749283 )
      The thing here is tho, is that WiFi only describes layer 1 and 2, nothing beyond. Therefor the DS is fully WiFi compliant, however, it is not implementing a TCP/IP stack. This will have to be done on a per-software basis (each game). Remember, things like NetBEUI and IPX/SPX still work over WiFi connections, and those have nothing at all to do with TCP/IP communication. Nintendo's own protocol is a layer 3 and up protocol, not a layer 1/2 protocol.

      Please refere to the OSI Model [wikipedia.org] if you are confused abo
  • OMFROLFl33tH@X0rZG!! He said "Gameboy" in place of "Nintendo"! And I'm sure you're all the same people who nitpick at people using the the word "Xerox" and "copy" synonomously, right? But I guess when you really don't have anything relevant to post, that's the next best thing...

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