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Voodoo Extreme is reporting that the Bungie team may work on a project to port Halo 2 to the next generation Xbox, adding in additional content and improving overall gameplay and picture quality. From the article: "Can you imagine Halo 2 running at 1280x720?!!! We also wonder what was meant by 'all the stuff people expected from Halo 2 but didn't make the cut.' With this kind of top-secret info, you don't ask; you simply listen."
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Halo 2.5 for Xbox 2

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  • Launch title (Score:3, Informative)

    by StocDred (691816) on Monday December 27, 2004 @10:51AM (#11191603) Homepage Journal
    This has got to be an Xbox2 launch title, which Microsoft knows is the only game they've got that stands a chance of selling system. Halo 3 must be taking too long, so a panicked Board has Bungie re-doing #2. I eagerly await Xboxers falling all over themselves to get this while simultaneously bashing Nintendo for the latest re-release of Super Mario Whatever. Irony.
    • Re:Launch title (Score:2, Interesting)

      by JorDan Clock (664877)
      It's not just a launch title, but a bundled title. According to OXM, if you buy the Xbox2 with the hard drive, you get Halo 2.5 for free.

      And there is no panic over Halo 3. Bungie already said their next title will not be related to Halo at all. Halo 3 won't likely be in development until after the Xbox2 is released.
    • You are more than likely trolling, so I'll bite...

      Halo 3 must be taking too long, so a panicked Board has Bungie re-doing #2

      First off, Halo 2 just came out. Bungie was working Halo 2 probably a week or two before it went gold, implying that it was not finished. To some its not a complete game. So if anything, if they're doing it, Halo 3 just began in development.

      I eagerly await Xboxers falling all over themselves to get this while simultaneously bashing Nintendo for the latest re-release of Su
      • " Xbox came with a 50 gig hard drive with over 45000+ blocks for saving games." Try 8 Gig harddrive, it was origianally supposed to be 40 but we ended up with 8 they come with 10 or 8 gig variants but only 8 GB is useable
        • 8 gig? better than 8 meg memory cards. I like playstation but it kills me to get a complete system costs me $225. Where as the Xbox was 200. And if I run out of space on a wimpy 8 meg card, I need to buy another one for 25 dollars...See my point?
      • Re:Launch title (Score:3, Interesting)

        by StocDred (691816)
        The Xbox, although a microsoft product, has changed console systems in that it was the first to have a hard drive

        Yeah, but what has it done for me lately? Not having to buy memory cards is great, but I know that if I'm going to a friend's house, I can bring along my mem card and play my personal GTA game using his PS2 and his copy of the game. Can you do that with a hard drive? Only if it's removable, I suppose.

        I'm just not buying that the Xbox hard drive is revolutionizing gaming... and I don't think M

        • Yeah, but what has it done for me lately? Not having to buy memory cards is great, but I know that if I'm going to a friend's house, I can bring along my mem card and play my personal GTA game using his PS2 and his copy of the game. Can you do that with a hard drive? Only if it's removable, I suppose.

          You can actually, you just need to buy a memory card to do so, however its not required to own the system.

          I'm just not buying that the Xbox hard drive is revolutionizing gaming... and I don't think Micr
          • They're redoing halo 2 because they were pressed for time and it didnt have all they wanted in it. Now that they have time, they're making a 2.5 release to add in the stuff missing. Not to mention Xbox couldnt handle Halo 2 correctly.

            Then the obvious solution would have been to simply give Halo 2 more time for development, and probably make it a Xenon launch title. We'll find out in May, but it seems ever more certain MS plans on launching the Xenon in late 2005.

            What would another year have meant to p

            • Then the obvious solution would have been to simply give Halo 2 more time for development, and probably make it a Xenon launch title. We'll find out in May, but it seems ever more certain MS plans on launching the Xenon in late 2005.

              What would another year have meant to people who wanted a full fledged sequel to Halo, and on a system that can do more than the Xbox? Maybe on the Xenon the in-game engine cinemas wouldn't have so much pop-in and textures would also not just pop into existance when you get
  • It was explained (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Safety Cap (253500) on Monday December 27, 2004 @10:52AM (#11191614) Homepage Journal
    in the Halo "collector's edition." There were additional creatures, cutscenes (where they explain how the Covenant formed) and even an ATV that had to be cut due to wasted time from Deathmarch EA-type 'schedules'.

    If only they'd hired a competent Project Manager that knew his/her stuff when it came to delivering software on time, under budget, and to spec, without continuous deathmarch sessions, then they never would need to come out with an "here's-all-the-stuff-we-wanted-to-put-in-but-coul dn't" version. Oh, and would have saved at least the industry-standard 10% of the cost on redos and wasted effort to boot. Guess it is easier to do it twice rather than do it right the first time.

    • Slow down Tex (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Dinny (16499) on Monday December 27, 2004 @11:28AM (#11191897)
      That's a bit over the top. Pretty much all of the stuff in the collector's edition that they cut from the game was because they could get it to balance correctly.

      They specifcally say that they didn't include the ATV because they couldn't figure out a reason to have it in the game either single or multiplayer.

      All of the aliens that where left out where half finished ugly looking things.

      In any creative enterprise, you consider things that you later deside are a bad idea.
    • If only they'd hired a competent Project Manager that knew his/her stuff when it came to delivering software on time, under budget, and to spec

      Yeah, they should have hired that guy! And maybe they could have gotten Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny thrown in on the deal..

    • Some of the stuff that was thankfully cut out and was pointed out in the collector's DVD were pretty damned stupid. Here are some not-so-brilliant ideas that were cut :

      A seperate race just to use the covenant sniper rifle? Uh, no. Theres already 5 races (6 if you count the prophets) in Halo 2 and Jackals piss me off as it is with the sniper rifle.
      A 1 man warthog vehicle? Pretty but the only reason why the Ghost gets away with being a solo vehicle is because it can strafe.
      A flamethrower? Fun but how are yo

    • If only they'd hired a competent Project Manager that knew his/her stuff when it came to delivering software on time, under budget, and to spec, without continuous deathmarch sessions, then they never would need to come out with an "here's-all-the-stuff-we-wanted-to-put-in-but-coul dn't" version.

      Gabe Newell to the rescue!...Oh, wait..

    • They may not be releasing a super gold bonus edition out of need. They may just want you to buy the same game again. It's working for Lucas.
  • Well for starters... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by octover (22078) on Monday December 27, 2004 @11:20AM (#11191840) Homepage
    'all the stuff people expected from Halo 2 but didn't make the cut.'

    Like a real ending?

    I'll admit I haven't played through all of the single player and don't know first hand, partly cause I would just rather play online multiplayer. However it seems like everyone agrees the ending is shite and I'm taking their word on it.

    Even if they are saving for some sort of content download, what about the half of my friends that payed $50 for the game, who would have X Box live but they can't get broadband where they live?

    I would also love to see improved networking code. Maybe I just don't know about the underlying infrastructure to appreciate why I get dropped so much, but I recall having better luck playing Quake 2 on my 33.6 modem then I have had with my cable connection that is more or less fairly solid.
    • However it seems like everyone agrees the ending is shite and I'm taking their word on it.

      It doesn't end. It just stops. When it faded out I was waiting for the next cut-scene. Then the credits started rolling. "That's it?" I say. "This is broken or something."

    • Agreed!!

      Xbox live sucks. I'm always getting dropped... hop online and play Q3/whatever pc game things work fine. I don't get what the deal is with Xbox live, me, and my friends, seem to have the same problem, getting dropped frequently.

      - Joshua
    • Halo 2 at 1024 x 768?!

      How about just having the freaking game at the res it's al right now without that lame-ass texture redraw. Seriously, those are the worst cutscenes I've seen this generation. All of a sudden guns are getting drawn in on ships, key characters start dialogue without having a face on. Lame. Utter garbage.

      Also wins the award for Worst Ending of the Millennium.
      • You might try cleaning the lens on your X-Box with a DVD Lens cleaner.

        I had this problem as well and noticed it happened in different spots. I ran the cleaner and most of the pop-in went away. Not all of it, but then I've got an old system I bought at launch.

  • by unclethursday (664807) on Monday December 27, 2004 @11:22AM (#11191855)
    A friend of mine works for a subsidiary of Activision... and no, I won't name him or which one because he told me a lot of stuff he shouldn't have due to NDAs-- and I'm not getting him or his company in trouble. But, the info that got leaked a few months back, about there possibly being 3 different Xbox2/Xenon/whatever you want to call it versions is true, according to what he has been told by Microsoft.

    Of course, the hard drive version will cost more than the non-hard drive flash memory version... so if they really are putting a Halo 2.5 pre-loaded onto the hard drive for the Xenon, well, it's a ploy to get the more expensive version to sell. And it also shows Microsoft knows they need Halo to sell copnsoles, despite what many an Xbox fanboi has stated in the past.

    However, MS knows that Bungie won't have Halo 3 ready for the Xenon launch, so if this rumor is true, they're trying to have some sort of Halo at launch. They know that Halo single handedly kept the Xbox alive until Xbox Live and some really good games started coming out a year after launch (and anyone who says the Xbox could have really been selling on the other games besides Halo released in the first year is deluding themselves), so they could be hoping to do the same with "Halo 2.5"; IE keep Xenon sales going until better games start coming out for the Xenon.

    • (and anyone who says the Xbox could have really been selling on the other games besides Halo released in the first year is deluding themselves), so they could be hoping to do the same with "Halo 2.5"; IE keep Xenon sales going until better games start coming out for the Xenon. Yes, Halo helped sell the Xbox. Why on earth does everyone complain like there's something wrong with having a good launch title? What did the PS2 have? Tekken? And the GameCube? Luigi's Mansion?

      None of the other consoles had any d

      • There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a great launch title. There IS something wrong with having a single good launch title, and nothing else worth buying for a good year into your launch. Halo 1 looks to be a Blizzard-esque title (just bought it used at lunch today for my new XBox I got for Christmas) -- that is, nothing super WOW whiz bang new, but taking all previous ideas and polishing it to a lovely gleam.

        As for no other consoles having a great launch title, what about Soul Caliber 1 for the
      • Yes, Halo helped sell the Xbox. Why on earth does everyone complain like there's something wrong with having a good launch title? What did the PS2 have? Tekken? And the GameCube? Luigi's Mansion?

        For the Madden fans, the PS2 had Madden at launch. The GameCube had Rogue Leader.

        But, the point being that none of the other games for the Xbox's entire first year would have carried the Xbox or sold Xboxes. And, at the time, there was no promise of potentially really good games coming out, either. And witho

        • Beautiful analysis you've done there, just to give you another datapoint, the in-store demo of Rogue Leader and pipe dreams of Perfect Dark 2 were all it took to have me sold on the gamecube. I picked up a copy of melee for my little brother almost as an afterthought. Boy did I have things backward, here it is 3 years later with Rogue Leader collecting dust on the shelf, Rare being a subsidiary of Microsoft, and weekly smash brothers tournaments with my friends. The game is immortal. It's going to go dow
        • Actually, for me it was Project Gotham Racing (having bought the Dreamcast for Soul Calibur, I had also been exposed to it's "prequel" Metropolitan Street Racer). I also Picked up DoA 3, of course. Interesting game, but certainly not a system seller. Since then, I've picked up plenty of good to great games on the system, but then I like racers :-) I didn't pick up the original Halo until something like 2 years later, btw, when it *finally* went on a 1-day Thanksgiving sale for $30.

          As far as Rogue Leade

  • How about... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by PhotoBoy (684898) on Monday December 27, 2004 @12:04PM (#11192175)
    ... finishing Halo 2 for Xbox 1 before making the gaming masses go out and buy a new console just to see the end of the game?
    • Seriously.

      I just paid $50 for Halo 2 and another $50 for an Xbox Live subscription. That's $100 for one game. Okay, whatever, fine.

      Now they're telling me that the game is less than perfect and they want me to buy a new console and a new copy of the game. $200 for the console, $20 for a new headset adapter for the controller, and $50 for Halo 2.5.

      Total cost: $370.

      Is Halo 2 worth $370?
      • [mild spoiler in second paragraph below]

        No, they're not, some internet rumor site is.

        And, by the way, Halo 2 is fucking awesome, even with it's supposed problems. I prefer the pop-in on Halo 2 to the load pauses in HL2, personally. As for the ending, the single player game took me ~12.5 hours to beat. That's plenty for a single-player game. Yes, the ending left a lot of loose threads, but it didn't feel like the game just "stopped," any more than Empire Strikes Back just "stopped."

        I think a lot of peopl

  • RUMOR (Score:3, Informative)

    by Have Blue (616) on Monday December 27, 2004 @12:05PM (#11192184) Homepage
    The article summary makes it sound like a fact, but this is in fact a RUMOR that was most likely made up by OXM. Microsoft/Bungie has never said anything like this.
  • by Taulin (569009)
    Can my TV actually support that resolution?
  • irony (Score:2, Interesting)

    by syrinx (106469) *
    And just yesterday there was the article about Bungie's Marathon being released 10 years ago. In 10 years, they've gone from releasing incredibly innovative games that remain classic for a decade, to rehashing a sequel to a second-rate game that is only appreciated by new 'gamers' who have never played anything else.

    R.I.P. Bungie.
    • God Alimight, you guys are a sorry lot. Still pining away for the Bungie of yore are ya?

      You only wish you could play the likes of Halo or Halo2 on your Mac.
  • Yeah its called a PC, now only if they would make a decent port. The Halo 1 port was pretty bad.
  • and i dont know why anyone would be dumb enough to buy an xbox wich is sooo weak compared to a pc."

    wow, and here i thought people on slashdot where usually smart. i realize most of you guys probably spend a small fortune on computer junk and alot of people on here may also make a good bit of money doing some computer related job, but the bulk fo this country does not have very much expendable income. I don't know why its so hard to imagine somone buying a $300 game sytem to hook up to there -$1000 hdtv the
    • You my friend are a rambling man. You don't really say much, but damn you like to ramble!

      Also, there != their.
  • Yeah I said it!

    Plenty of people agree with me.

    But this will still sell consoles.

    Now mod me down fanbyos, mod me down.
    • At least put the 2 in there and I'll agree with you. :P
    • by TLSPRWR (711680)
      I'm a fanboy, and if I had modpoints I would have modded you down. Not because you're "Dissing the almighty Halo" or something like that, but because you're posting flamebait.
      Plenty of people have and enjoy Halo 2. Bungie may have "sold out" to Microsoft, but I'm still going to enjoy their fantastic games they've made because of it. Hate me or even hate the games if you want, but I'll be over here playing some more Halo 2 on Xbox Live and having fun.
  • This needs to be treated as a rumor and not fact. If it does not come from Bungie, then it's not official. They tend to be honest about what they are working on. I seriously doubt that this is fact at all, and am calling it bullshit.

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