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Xbox 2 To Be Unveiled on MTV May 12 445

An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft confirmed this morning that the Xbox 2 will be revealed on live TV on May 12. MTV will air a half-hour long special to launch the system. 'It doesn't make sense to unveil the product behind a closed door, at a trade-only event,' according to Microsoft corporate VP Peter Moore. 'We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first.'" More coverage available on GamesIndustry.biz and Press the Buttons.
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Xbox 2 To Be Unveiled on MTV May 12

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:23PM (#12202291)
    Just as MTV revolutionized the way the world experiences music
    Wait, wait... Let me get this straight, there is MUSIC on MTV!? This must be like MTV Europe or something...
    • by jcuffe ( 873322 ) <jared@edifies.us> on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:26PM (#12202344) Homepage
      I think they had something like that a few years ago. Then I think they cut everything out except the 30-second snatches of "music" on TRL.

      The thing that makes me sad is that MS views people that watch MTV as their target audience. I don't even want people that ingest that filth sharing any sort of demographic with me.
      • Apparently music playing in the background of crappy reality tv shows still counts to them... I watch the new MTV [shareaza.com].

        This is very un-shocking though... With the colony counting down to May 12th and Peter Moore (used to run Sega US...remember 9.9.99?) running the Xbox team, this just seems to make perfect sense.
      • The thing that makes me sad is that MS views people that watch MTV as their target audience. I don't even want people that ingest that filth sharing any sort of demographic with me.

        And then it just becomes an industry of... cool.
        Lester Bangs -- Almost Famous [imdb.com]

      • Re:Music? Television (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Mr.Dippy ( 613292 )
        I really do miss the days when video games were considered underground and for hardcore nerds. I do take offensense that the current video game industry sees me as an ADD High school cheer leader who can't get enough music industry dribble contained in shiney package presented by Paris Hilton. Everytime I watch MTV my head hurts from the constant camera shifting and bright lights they use in every shot. I know it's probably really extremem but I'm going to pass up on Xbox 2. I'm not crazy about playing
      • Re:Music? Television (Score:5, Interesting)

        by northcat ( 827059 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @02:33PM (#12203314) Journal
        Actually it *is* their audience. You might think that all gamers are intelligent beings who like games that mentally stimulate them, but mainstream gamers, just like mainstream-anything, are just mindless mtv-watching zombies who play anything that the media feeds them and play a new version of an American football game every year.
    • by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:27PM (#12202354) Homepage Journal
      Just as MTV revolutionized the way the world experiences music

      Wait, wait... Let me get this straight, there is MUSIC on MTV!? This must be like MTV Europe or something...

      I heard a rumor that they were going to rename it Hip-Hop and Dumb Hotel Heiress Network.

      I used to do my Econ homework with MTV on, now I can't stand the stuff (MTV, not Econ.)

      • by zardo ( 829127 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:44PM (#12202646)
        The only show on MTV that draws my attention is cribs, and then after a while I find myself cursing at the tv, cursing god and cursing my mass produced crap hole of a house. Why can't I come home to Jessica Simpson sun bathing in the pristine pool in our backyard? Bad for the soul I tell you.
      • I used to watch MTV2 (except I muted the rap videos) but I had to cancel my Satellite subscription so I've been without Satellite for a while. From the sounds of things, MTV2 is turning into another clone of MTV. Uggh.

        Hopefully VH1 Classic is still around.
        • The VH1 Classic that I get is reruns all over. And lots of bad 80s and 90s music.

          The only worthwhile shows are Friday Rocks, the Rock Show and some oldies at 10am.
    • by panaceaa ( 205396 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:31PM (#12202424) Homepage Journal
      Silly rabbit, the M stands for Microsoft.
    • by Amoeba ( 55277 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:38PM (#12202552)
      Empty-V: The Shiny Things Network

  • by Shkuey ( 609361 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:23PM (#12202297)
    3 to 1 it gets a BSOD while on live TV.
    • by macrom ( 537566 ) <macrom75@hotmail.com> on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:27PM (#12202348) Homepage
      I'll just take that money from you now because we all know the Xbox gets a GSOD [chello.nl]
    • by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:56PM (#12202808) Homepage Journal
      "3 to 1 it gets a BSOD while on live TV."

      Tee hee giggle snort. If it's funny 300 times, it's sure to be funny 301 times!

      Frankly, I'll take a crash on Live TV over blatant lying about how many millions of polygons can be rendered per second. *Glares accusingly in Sony's direction.*
  • PSP (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Yeldarb-7 ( 873124 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:23PM (#12202298) Homepage
    The PSP "Launch Party" was a flop. Why shouldn't this be also?
    • Re:PSP (Score:5, Insightful)

      by matth1jd ( 823437 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:27PM (#12202358)
      I knew alot more about the PSP when they had the launch party for that. What it looked like, how much it was going to cost etc.

      Microsoft has been keeping pretty tight wraps on the details. People will probably watch this to just see what the thing is all about.

      /Just saying
    • Re:PSP (Score:3, Funny)

      by Foolomon ( 855512 )
      Because Microsoft has a bug in Excel such that the spreadsheet that calculates the Neilson numbers will make it look like a success.
    • Re:PSP (Score:3, Funny)

      by uujjj ( 752925 )
      There was a PSP launch party?
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I'm interested in Xbox2 only if it allows me to use it for:
      - internet browsing front end
      - music playback
      - video playback (mpeg1, 2, 4, wm)
      - video recording using external capture box
      - games
      - a .net virtual machine so I can run end user written code
  • Accessibility? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ackthpt ( 218170 ) * on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:24PM (#12202308) Homepage Journal
    'It doesn't make sense to unveil the product behind a closed door, at a trade-only event,' according to Microsoft corporate VP Peter Moore. 'We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first.'"

    So they put it on a Pay-TV channel? Ok, maybe I'm the last person in the USA without cable. I'll just have to wait for the regular network commercials to tell me how cool this thing is that I don't really need, but will feel strangely compelled to buy anyway.

    The Rationale: "We'll introduce it on MTV because it worked for Bill Clinton."

    Things to look forward to:

    • Blue Music Video of Death
    • Some unknown girl/guy in the special will eventually rise to stardom for no apparent reason than they look good and/or can dance and sing
    • Days^H^H^H^HHours after the first XBox 2 hits a store shelf before Linux is up and running on one
    • First worm to hit XBoxes, which will be virtually impossible to remove due to the closed nature ot the system
    Remember when MTV was only about Music Videos?
    • Maybe you are not in their intended target market?
    • Re:Accessibility? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Politburo ( 640618 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:38PM (#12202554)
      Things to look forward to:
      Blue Music Video of Death
      Some unknown girl/guy in the special will eventually rise to stardom for no apparent reason than they look good and/or can dance and sing
      Days[You're a tool]Hours after the first XBox 2 hits a store shelf before Linux is up and running on one
      First worm to hit XBoxes, which will be virtually impossible to remove due to the closed nature ot the system


      Yeah.. cause all of those things happened with the first XBox.. ::rolls eyes::
    • Re:Accessibility? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by wankledot ( 712148 )
      The intersection of people without cable, and people buying a new Xbox2 is pretty close to 0.
      • actually, I know a lot of people with the current generation of systems, who will also buy the next-gen systems, who do not have cable/sattelite tv. I, and most of the people I know, rarely if ever watch TV. Most shows I ever cared about have been cancelled seasons ago and are available on DVD now. The way I see it, I could spend $50/month for 100 channels of reality TV, or get an extra game a month. I'd much rather have the game.
  • Own hardware (Score:2, Informative)

    with xbox2 MS might be venturing into hardware. Read this:

    Recent news stories report that Microsoft may design their own chips for the Xbox 2 design. This means that the manufacturers of the current Xbox console may be out of the picture. For the Xbox 1, NVidia had won the bid to supply the graphics chips for the Xbox, and Intel won the bidding war against the CPU manufacturer AMD.

    source: here [xbreporter.com]

    • I thought IBM was providing the chops for all of the next gen consoles (PS, Nintendo, and XBox)?
      If IBM is providing the chips to M$, then of course M$ is going to have a say with the chip design.
    • Re:Own hardware (Score:3, Informative)

      by smackjer ( 697558 )
      Xbox 2 is using IBM PowerPC technology for the CPU(s?) and ATI for video.
    • Re:Own hardware (Score:4, Informative)

      by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:58PM (#12202836)
      Recent news stories report that Microsoft may design their own chips for the Xbox 2 design. This means that the manufacturers of the current Xbox console may be out of the picture.

      I think you mean "spec" instead of "design". Chip design is not something that is within the realm of MS' ability. Sure they have bazillion dollars and can throw a lot of money at a problem, but designing chips takes talent and vast amounts of people that MS doesn't have and can't hire in time.

      The last I heard, IBM was designing and manufacturing PowerPC chips for the Xbox2 [theinquirer.net]. In this way, the supplier - vendor relationship is no different than the Xbox. However, this time, the machine won't just be a modified PC with a modified Intel x86 processor. MS can be more specific about what the chip can do. In this way, IBM's relationship with MS is like Apple's relationship with IBM. Both companies tell IBM what they need the chip to do. IBM handles the details like where the memory and controller goes on the die, how the chip handles branching, etc.

      Also ATI will make the graphics chips for the Xbox2. This was somewhat foreseable after the MS-nVidia relationship soured. But because ATI now supplies the GPU, there has been speculation that the Xbox2 will not be backwards compatible. nVidia's Xbox chips used proprietary technology that they probably don't want to license to MS and ATI.

  • Bad move... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Kjuib ( 584451 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:25PM (#12202319) Homepage Journal
    Releasing the game console right before starwars?!
    Anyone who is going for the XBox2 Rush will be inline to see Starwars at some theatre that is not going to show it.
    • Unless another sequel to Knights of the Old Republic comes out for the new X-Box right away. Then you could play that while all the other chumps are in line for Star Wars, and enjoy fresher dialog, a more compelling story, and better-composed shots, without a hint of Hayden Christiansen anywhere to be seen.
  • Definitely Next? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Reignking ( 832642 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:25PM (#12202325) Journal
    The article (yes, I RTFA) calls it the XBox Next. Is it confirmed, then, that the official name of the new XBox is XBox Next?

  • It's that bad? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Quasar1999 ( 520073 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:25PM (#12202333) Journal
    Usually they build enormous hype by not showing it off to the consumer but rather showing it to select few reviewers, who then spill all sorts of happy, wonderful, everything is awesome, best thing since sliced bread reviews... everyone gets all hyped up, and by the time end consumers get to see the product for what it is, full of issues, the hype is so big that no one cares, and they sell millions...

    Why switch the perfect marketing model?
    • Shh... shh... you're ruining Microsoft's moment of true innovation! :-)
    • Why switch the perfect marketing model?

      Because they don't want to share the stage with Sony's PS3 rollout. This way, at least for now, Xbox will be the toy gamers are talking about for a week before E3. Who knows, maybe Sony will counter with something else like a giving away a night playing video games with Pamela Anderson or something.

      In the end, it probably doesn't matter much - when the actual hardware and software goes on sale will matter more as well as the caliber of the software.

      • Things I would do with Pamela Anderson....

        0001 - [Censored - NSFW]
        0002 - [Censored - NSFW]
        0003 - [Censored - NSFW]
        .
        .
        .
        4657 - Play video games
    • Because they're obviously gunning for the college crowd with this. The new consoles will be more expensive than prior generations, you gotta get those kids to start buying fewer packages of ramen ASAP so they have enough for a downpayment on a loan come release.
    • Re:It's that bad? (Score:3, Insightful)

      by hollismb ( 817357 )
      You do realize they'll still be showing it at E3 a couple days later, right? I'm all for this. Instead of waiting an hour to download some shaky handycam video because everyone else and their mother are trying to download it at the same time, I can actually watch a well-presented (at least in terms of video quality) show on television. Sounds good to me. Sure, it'll probably full of fluff and flashy imagery, but it'll at least answer a few questions. What does it look like? What is it called? When does it c
  • closed door? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by deuist ( 228133 )
    How is MTV open door? Most studio visitors will not have a chance to play the X-box. At least trade shows allow anyone with an entrance pass to try the products.
  • by Raindance ( 680694 ) * <johnsonmx@@@gmail...com> on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:26PM (#12202340) Homepage Journal
    "We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first."

    Make that, "We wanted to talk directly at the consumer first."

    Sadly, you can't "talk to" anyone via TV (especially MTV-style networks). Let's just call this an (admittedly clever) uni-directional advertisement and be done with it.
  • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:27PM (#12202347)
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    • by daeley ( 126313 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:41PM (#12202606) Homepage
      Wait, am I thinking of a different channel? Please don't tell me the "M" is for "Microsoft."

      The "M" is for "Marketing."

      Marketing killed the video star.
    • ...for some reason, no one is surprised when MTV ("Music" TV) announces yet another half hour of programming devoted to something completely unrelated to the, you know, music.

      Actually, I'm sure this program will have a few game montages set to music. Halo footage set to some rock, GTA-ripoff set to some hip-hop, a new Project Gotham racer... They could easily triple or quadruple MTV's weekly music video quotient.
  • From the virial marketing site: "chaos with penguins"

    Shhhh, Microsoft has hidden a secret message in their viral marking website, ourcolony.net
  • bleh (Score:2, Insightful)

    by rwven ( 663186 )
    I think largely, people aren't excited anymore like they used to be about console launches. Yeah, neat new technology or whatever, pretty visuals...saw it all last year on my PC... and on another note, whats this drivel about "bringing it to the consumers first?" They're just po'ed because sony got the 3pm slot at E3 and they got the 6pm slot... Typical MS PR cover...
  • Paid Programming (Score:5, Interesting)

    by razmaspaz ( 568034 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:28PM (#12202376)
    Will this be the highest tune in ever for a paid advertisement that is not taking place during the Super Bowl? I mean really, I don't think MTV is giving away air time to Microsoft...right?
    • by wankledot ( 712148 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:55PM (#12202795)
      Why wouldn't they? Can you imagine now much a 30 second spot during this show would cost? Existing Xbox games, gamer-focused products, etc. will pay big money to get their ads in. If I were MTV, I would be more than willing to give up an hour for a guaranteed demographic in a focused market (games) and very captive audience. MTV's salespeople would fall all over themselves selling ads during this to EA and any other game publisher.
  • Viral Marketing (Score:5, Informative)

    by magicsquid ( 85985 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:28PM (#12202378) Homepage
    This makes perfect sense. Microsoft has started another viral marketing web game for the Xbox 2 (similar to the original ilovebees for Halo2). Check out http://www.ourcolony.net/ [ourcolony.net] The countdown ends on May 12th at 8PM eastern. BTW, the password is play.

    The rewards give out tiny glimpses of the Xbox 2. So far only the controller has been seen.
  • by bigtallmofo ( 695287 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:30PM (#12202400)
    I don't mind this airing on MTV so long as it does not impede or interfere in any way with the airing of MTV's coverage of Spring Break.

    I've seen pornography that was less graphic than MTV in those shows.

  • by amigoro ( 761348 ) * on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:31PM (#12202421) Homepage Journal
    Rumour has it that Bill Gates [mithuro.com] is going to suffer a wardrobe malfunction on the show and reveal to the world the true meaning of microsoft and why he is not trying to get perpendicular.
  • Core Audience (Score:5, Insightful)

    by geek_xyu ( 814278 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:32PM (#12202446)
    Wasn't the original xbox supposed to be aimed at a more mature market? Instead here microsoft is targeting the Britany Spears/reality tv fans. Not much of a surprise but I don't think Microsoft has a clue what they are doing. They are just praying their new system doesn't lose money when it debuts like xbox 1 did.
    • Re:Core Audience (Score:5, Insightful)

      by javaxman ( 705658 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:51PM (#12202729) Journal
      Wasn't the original xbox supposed to be aimed at a more mature market? Instead here microsoft is targeting the Britany Spears/reality tv fans.

      You either overestimate the sophistication of Xbox users, or underestimate the age of folks watching Real World/Road Rules Challenge XXXTREME or whatever they're showing on MTV these days. In either event, there probably is a good amount of overlap in the target audience. They're trying to hook eyes of 14-40 year-old bored people with disposable income and lots of free time. MTV is as good a place for that as you'll find, these days.

    • Aside from 'the Xbox losing money' deal I think you have really hit the point. I was in the discussion the other day of PSP vs. DS and it became clear that Sony was making mistakes that christ almighty either they themselves have made recently or other companies paid forward for them.

      Letting the DS ship 6 million units before the PSP went on sale? Not including at least some paltry Memory Stick? Going with Yet Another Bastard Sony Media? Comparing a design flaw to a work of art (wow)?

      I find it amusing tha
    • "Wasn't the original xbox supposed to be aimed at a more mature market? Instead here microsoft is targeting the Britany Spears/reality tv fans."

      No no, they don't want the mature market, they want the market that thinks of themselves as mature, i. e. the Britney fans.
  • Sorry I prefer Monkey Boy [pandora.be].
  • by the_skywise ( 189793 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:34PM (#12202477)
    I don't think I need to add anything further...
  • by brontus3927 ( 865730 ) <{edwardra3} {at} {gmail.com}> on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:34PM (#12202480) Homepage Journal
    The list just keeps getting longer of the things I have no interest in buying. I'm not really a console person in general, but I dispise XBox. I mean, that controller is just huge. I'm also the kind of n00b that moves the controller around, I've just never been able to kick the habit not since I was a kid playing on the Atari 2600. With the Xbox controller's heft, I might accidently kill somebody.
    • by lowe0 ( 136140 )
      2001 called... they'd like their jokes back.

      MS introduced a smaller controller a long time ago.
    • ...I'm not really a console person in general, but I dispise XBox....

      People buy this as a game console? =)

      Seriously speaking, Xbox rules, but once you load the "proper" software onto it. XBMC, DVDX and MAMEoX has turned my once overpriced paperweight birthday present (Xbox) into a work horse. With the proper software one can watch region free, NTSC/PAL DVDs. Watch TV / tune to radio from other countries, play classic video games and have a quick glance at the weather forecast.

      Now that XBox2 is comming o

    • Bleh, it's people like you that made MS change their controller. The original controller was really well designed and fits into my hands perfectly.
  • by gl4ss ( 559668 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:35PM (#12202496) Homepage Journal
    you might be given some hard pressed questions from industry experts asking if the plastic case actually is the machine and if it actually works.

    a show on mtv would be just one way, them pulling all the strings and saying whatever they want of the device - without the possibility for anyone to ask questions about it.
    • You mean they're not objective? Neither is CNN but nobody seems to mind that...

      The best part of MTV [or MuchMusic in Canada] is the big titted teenage chicks with low self-esteem. Nothing like the mute button to enjoy a good 30 min program ;-)

      Tom
    • Who said that they wouldn't be showing it at E3? They're launching it on a TV show, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to show it anywhere else.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:36PM (#12202513)
    By showing what amounts to an ad, they might lose their position of artistic integrity they've developed all these years.
  • by dr_dank ( 472072 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:39PM (#12202564) Homepage Journal
    In the past ten years since the ADHD league took over MTV programming, will this unveiling go as expected?

    Bill Gates:
    Welcome to the next level of home video game enter

    ANNOYING POPUP!-HI THIS IS MEGAN FROM CRAPSMELL, NJ AND I LOVE JAY-Z, WOOOOO!

    its processing power will make its extensive library of

    RANDOM SNIPPET OF VIDEO!

    the Xbox2 will retail for

    HEY ITS CARSON DALEY, LOOK AT HIS HAIRLESS CHEST Aieeee!
    • SHOUT OUTS (Score:3, Funny)

      by gosand ( 234100 )
      ANNOYING POPUP!-HI THIS IS MEGAN FROM CRAPSMELL, NJ AND I LOVE JAY-Z, WOOOOO!

      HI, this is Steve from Redmond WA. WHUT WHUT. I'd like to give a shout-out to my homies back home - BILL, CLIPPY, AND ALL THOSE DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • by superultra ( 670002 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:39PM (#12202570) Homepage
    "We wanted to talk directly to the consumer first."

    There must be a typo. Moore's quote, in light of Sony's recent attempt to upstage Microsoft at E3 by showcasing the PS3 3 hours earlier, should read: "We wanted to talk directly to the consumer, first."
  • The article reeks of Marketing squalk. Lots of hype and worlds longer than marmalade, lot of Wow and fizz, but not much substance. No wonder it's on MTV.

    If there was something interesting to say about the product, don't you think they would have mentioned that instead of "behind-the-scenes video" and "jam packed with celebs"?

    When a Mareketing Manager is "ecstatic about our alliance with MTV" instead of ecstatic about the product. I begin to doubt. Is it me or does this article give off vibes of overhyping
  • Good Move (Score:2, Interesting)

    by slusich ( 684826 ) *
    This is going to expose the product to the people who are going to be buying it early on. I personally can't wait to see it, and depending on the price point, I'll probably buy one farily soon after they come out. I've got all 3 of the current generation of consoles, and at present I own more games for the Xbox then the other 2 combined. The Xbox is a really solid machine, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what the next generation is going to be capable of.
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  • by PhatboySlim ( 862704 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:52PM (#12202756)
    Am I the only one who sees this as a genius marketing move? How long have consumer electronics been debuted at trade show events without any coverage except on Tech/G4-Tv.

    MTV may no longer play music videos, but they get great ratings, and specifically within those great ratings is the hard to reach demographic that the XBOX should appeal to.

    Congrats to Microsoft for being the first to figure this out. Keep an eye out for Sony to follow their lead if this works out well.

  • MTV... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by FoXDie ( 853291 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:52PM (#12202758) Homepage
    This is exactly the reason I can't get myself to accept the Xbox. They are catering to, as Penny Arcade put it nicely, the Generic Frat Fuck. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-11 -08&res=l [penny-arcade.com]
    • Stupid argument (Score:3, Insightful)

      by AvantLegion ( 595806 )
      Marketing goes across the board to draw in the money of everyone they can get it from. It doesn't change the product in any way. They're not "catering" to anyone - they're marketing to everyone.

  • I'll wait (Score:3, Funny)

    by Tenebrious1 ( 530949 ) on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:53PM (#12202774) Homepage
    I'll wait on buying it until Microsoft releases Xbox2SP1.

  • by Dark Paladin ( 116525 ) * <jhummel.johnhummel@net> on Monday April 11, 2005 @01:59PM (#12202860) Homepage
    Already, they've put themselves into the name game for the mainstream media right before E3. It won't be "blah, blah, blah, Xbox and PS3 unvieled today", it will be three straight days of "blah, blah, blah, Xbox" - then when E3 hits, "And now lets' compare the PS3 to the Xbox".

    While I have my issues with the Xbox losing a ton o' money for Microsoft and not having a big enough library for my tastes (let me state: my personal tastes, so please so replies about the 10 Xbox games that are the "bestest evah!", thank you), at least they're working harder on the marketing for the Xbox 2 - more Japanese developers are announcing products, better viral marketing.

    Now that the Sony and Xbox lines will be compatible in power and graphics, it will come down to the games and other features (like Blue Ray and such). Eh - I'm patient. I probably won't buy either system for at least a year after they come out.

    Maybe ;).
  • Certain to be fast, amazing, and internet enabled. So will it have a telnet/MUD client?

    "Welcom to Microsoft MUD. It looks like you're trying to PK. Would you like..."

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