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Ninja Gaiden Black Preview 29

The ever-vigilent 1up.com has a heads up on the upcoming Xbox title Ninja Gaiden Black. A revamp of the the highly acclaimed restoration of the old skool series, Ninja Gaiden Black rehashes the 2004 release with new difficulty settings (both easier and much harder), mission modes, new bosses, new cutscenes, and more content all around. From the article: "A promise to provide the thrills of the Hurricane Packs to those without Xbox LIVE. The people who played the Hurricane Packs account for just 10 percent of the total of people who bought Ninja Gaiden. I wanted to provide follow-up support for the remaining 90 percent if I could. I've said from the beginning that I don't consider the Hurricane Packs to just be a service for the fans, but rather an investment towards the next level of progress. Now that has become a reality and Ninja Gaiden Black is the result of this."
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  • So.. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FidelCatsro ( 861135 ) <fidelcatsro&gmail,com> on Sunday May 15, 2005 @10:21AM (#12535386) Journal
    What we have is a full price patch with a few extras .
    I got rather irritated when they did the same thing with metal gear Solid 2.
    It got re-released with a bunch of extra cool gameplay modes that really did make the game alot more solid , unfortnatly i had already paid for the first release so i missed out on some great new additions , though eventaly a freind bought it so i got to borrow the game later.

    The same thing hapens all the time with CDs a few months later from the initial release the Record company will rerelease it with some extra tracks on it and the only way to get those tracks would be to pay full price again for the CD you already bought ,This ticks off fans .

    So the people who got it early or recently purchased the game will feel rather annoyed that they just paid 40-50 or 60 for the game and find out now that an improved version of the same game is going to be released soon.

    I wonder if they would consider a free upgrade program or for a nominal charge for people who already bought it... I very much doubt it .
    • Re:So.. (Score:3, Informative)

      by Hast ( 24833 )
      It says right in the second paragraph that it will be at a discounted price. Besides that you can try and sell your old copy as you get the new one.

      Besides it seems like the people that will buy it again are most likely fans and don't mind that. Or you can just get most of the stuff over Live if you feel that's a better deal.
      • Re:So.. (Score:3, Interesting)

        by FidelCatsro ( 861135 )
        Discount price will be most likely 30 or so(the other platimum series type prices) , which is still a fair bit of money for a game which you may have already bought for 60 or so.

        My point was more that the practice is rahter un-toward . you still in essence have to pay for much of the same thing , even if you are fan its highly annoying.
        Sure you can get stuff over a live service (if you pay for that) which is fair enough .

        I admit i am no fan of rehases and whilst its good they are charging a cut back rate
        • by Hast ( 24833 )
          In the article they also mention that this is basically a warm up for the people on the next NG team as they will move on to that after this.

          Paying for addons is not really something that is new with NG. Quite a few games (particularly console games as it's hard to make them upgradeable) have add-on packs you can buy.

          Why not see it as a great opportunity for new players to get into the game? Besides it was over a year ago that it was released, so it's not really a new game anyways. They pretty much state
          • I suppose your right , I guess i am rather bitter with that whole MGS2 thing hee and countless albums out there i bought weeks before a new version sprung with more tracks.
            I still feel my origional point holds some water , but i think i may be comming around to your way of thinking about it.
            I do feel though that they should offer it as a trade in to purchasers of the origional with a nominal charge (like 10 or 14USD) for an upgrade , that would restore alot of my faith in the publisher(i wasn't really mean
  • The thing I am most waiting for is an Easy mode. The first game was hard as hell. o.o
  • Boycott Tecmo (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 15, 2005 @02:45PM (#12537048)
    Tecmo are suing the webmasters and contributors (and possibly even the visitors if they get the logs) to www.ninjahackers.net, they are suing them [theregister.co.uk] for creating custom skins for Tecmo games like Dead Or Alive, DOAX Volleyball and Ninja Gaiden. The fans there had made all sorts of new costumes like Terminators with battle damage, changing Ryo in DOA to match his Ninja Gaiden costume etc (there was even a nude patch). It was a true fan community with an enthusiasm for adding new content to Tecmo's games.

    Most companies support the modding communities (witness Bungie's support of Halo 2 modders), but Tecmo have decided to sue their fans instead. Microsoft knew to steer clear of this lawsuit and declined to join Tecmo in it. I'm boycotting all future Tecmo games unless they drop this suit, and I'd urge everyone else to do so too.
    • So, let me get this straight.

      You want people to boycott a company for not wanting people to screw around with their game. A game they legally own all the code and rights to.

      Sorry, it is their right to do this. boycotting them isnt going to make them change their mind. In fact, I hear Tomonobu considers his characters his "Children". You just dont fark with someones kids. I respect him, and, his work. Why cant people do the same?
      • boycotting them isnt going to make them change their mind.

        If enough people boycott, a company WILL notice. I'm sorry, but even big companies know that bad word of mouth can hurt in the long run.

        Now. As a gamer, I personally won't buy a Tecmo game until I hear they change their practices. Why? There are so many games out there where I can personalize my experience without worrying about getting sued for it. The fact that Tecmo is clearly going against standard, ACCEPTED practices is stupid.

        Where would
    • Gee, I wonder what the custom skins looked like for DOAX Volleyball :)
  • ... the button to open a door isn't the same button as to hit someone.

    That bit of 'difficulty' I could live without. Fight down to one enemy left. Accidently go through the door back a room and all the enemies respawn! grr.

    I got a fair way through it, but decided that I didn't want to put up with the controls + camera anymore.
  • Tecmo... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Taulin ( 569009 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:20AM (#12540406) Homepage Journal
    First..I might buy an XBox360 because Tecmo supports them...

    Second..Unless this game is $15 or less, I will not buy it. I have the original, and it is incredible. People do not buy 'Game of Year editions' in the PC land if they have the original...at least I don't. Can you imagine some 13 year old asking his mom to buy the same game again?!?! My mom would have slaped me!

    Third..I have not beaten the first..are those pics from the the first game? You have to fight three of those huge dudes at once?!?!

    • Dude you shouldn't let your mom slap you! You must learn to be more like Cartman "Get in the Kitchen and make me some pie!"
    • Firstly, the game market has grown well beyond 13-year-olds (and IIRC Ninja Gaiden is rated M anyway). Where you get your games and who pays for them is your problem; adults get to make their own decision as to whether they will buy special editions of games they already own, based solely on if they feel the additional content is worth the cost.

      Secondly, it's not really a sequel, it's more like an expansion pack that comes with a copy of the original game. The three huge dudes are from the Hurricane Pac
  • "We didn't sell many expansion packs over Live, so we're trying to flog it again dressed up as a separate game"
    • Yeah dude, all the Hurricane Packs were free and part of the Master Ninja Tournament. So, for those with Xbox Live, this whoe thing doesn't even show up on the radar is something you would even consider buying since you've already got it.

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