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Out Of The XBox 120

Posted by Zonk from the and-into-the-fire? dept.
theodp writes 'Bill G.'s snagged the cover of this week's Time, which asks the question: Is Microsoft about to do in the living room with the Xbox 360 what it did in the office with Windows? Turn to page 13 in your Book of Xenon, please: 'As the world's software leader, Microsoft is among the best suited to enable and capitalize this transformation. This is our opportunity to lose.' If PlayStation 3 folks are scared, they're not showing it. 'We look at delivering a quantum leap in technology, not just Xbox version 1.5,' quips a Sony spokeswoman.' The story also reveals that the previously discussed rumor about Halo 3 parrying the PS3 launch is accurate.
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  • PS3 folks should be very scared. Just as Sony proved last time, the system with the best graphics doesn't always win... With 8 times the RAM and a triple core PPC processor, I don't see how anyone could call it the Xbox 1.5 though. Unfortunately, once you get past the new graphical capabilities of the next gen...you're still sadly left with the same gameplay we've been seeing since the 32 bit days....maybe Nintendo's eledged "Revolution" is the one to really be afraid of if they can carry out that promise.

    • Re:Sony should be very scared indeed... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Winterblink ( 575267 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:41PM (#12545133) Homepage
      On the whole, the real comparison you should be making (or at least keeping in mind) is that of the Dreamcast. It was a fantastic console, but it was also the first, and one has to wonder how many people will hold off on the 360 until they see what the PS3 and Revo will be like.

      The system with the best graphics might not always win, but keep in mind Sony has the asian markets that will eat up the PS3 more than the 360. And truth be told, it's all about the games. With all the emphasis on more power, better graphics, I think that gameplay is getting left as an afterthought nowadays.
      • The thing I've been watching has been MS success at courting Asian game studios. You don't see it yet, but they started going over when the X-Box was first on the drawing board, to begin wooing game producers. More importantly they kept at it through years of failure, and now it appears that with the launch of the next console, they might begin to reap dividends on all those investments. I think you're right that consoles live or die on the games they can deliver (although the DVD add-in was a nice bonus
    • In the Xbox360 fact sheets that have been circulating the internet, the claim is made that this next Xbox will have a maximum theoretical processing power of 1 TFLOP. That statistic might sound familar since it's the marke that Sony executives claimed they were trying to reach with the PS3. Is the Xbox360 as powerful as Sony's envisioned PS3? We'll know by tomorrow.
    • Not unless Microsoft declares that 360 will be backwards compatible. Currently they're doing the lame "no comment" thing which is making a lot of people nervous. If they say that it won't be compatible and the PS3 is then Microsoft is alienating a huge portion of their market.
      • The first Xbox and Xbox360 have completely different architecture. The only way they'll be able to make it backwards compatible is to run it through an emulator, and that'll usually kill alot of processing power. I'd imagine they're not saying yet b/c they're still not sure if they'll be able to pull it off or not...assuming "not" at the moment.
        • You do realize that the video from OurColony.net contained footage of people playing Halo 2 on the Xbox 360, along with pics of the Xbox Live Dashboard in the "Xbox 1" zone, and the Fable icon present?

          Of course, the latter could be explained by them testing out the new Live Dashboard on the Xbox, if they've done that. Footage of Halo 2 (and another game) on the Xbox 360, though, is a slightly different story.
      • They're more or less stated that they're working as hard as they can on backwards compatibility. What they haven't stated is whether it will come standard, or be an extra... knowing the issue with nVidia patents, it'll likely be an extra piece of software, probably costing around $25-30. That's my guess, at least.

        In any case, my Xbox is still in good condition, so it doesn't worry me for at least a few years. My buddy with a first-gen Xbox that's slowly falling apart will be more interested in compatibi
      • The company that made the emulator that lets the mac run windows software. I have a feeling that if the games uses DirectX that the different graphics hardware will not be a big issue. Combined with the 3 PPC cores It seems like a good bet.

  • Sony is deluded. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Golias ( 176380 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:24PM (#12544964)
    "X-Box 1.5"?

    I'm not really all that fired up about the XBox 360... Until I see what games come out for it, I feel no real need to get one, but simply putting one of these things side-by-side with the current XBox or PS/2 makes it obvious that this is definately a huge leap forward, as far as the technology is concerned.

    Let's set aside the massively faster CPU, and the collosally better graphics card. One would expect that.

    This thing needs two wires: Power, and output. All the controllers connect wirelessly, and it uses 802.11 wireless for the network connection. I'm sorry, Sony, but I consider this a feature to be a very big deal, and one which you and Microsoft should have made the standard in the previous generation of consoles.

    Full high-def support is also a biggie. DOAX on the old XBox in 480p looks far better than anything on the Playstation, but once you put it on the big-screen HDTV, the flaws become much more obvious.

    I seem to recall Sony talking down the original X-Box back in the day... only to come out with a PS/2 console which in many ways is technically inferior. I've got a feeling history is repeating. Around November, Sony will ramp up yet another "just you wait" campaign, and eventually give us a PS/3 which is almost as good as the X-Box. ... and people will buy the Sony anyway. Not because it will be better, but because of their exclusive contracts with the Rockstar for the Grand Theft Auto series. For many people, there simply is no reason to own a game console apart from playing GTA.
    • "I seem to recall Sony talking down the original X-Box back in the day... only to come out with a PS/2 console which in many ways is technically inferior. I've got a feeling history is repeating."

      This sentence bothers me... Xbox didn't even begin development till the same year PS2 came out. Perhaps you were thinking of the Dreamcast?
      • Right you are.

        I consider the X-Box to be the successor to the Dreamcast in many ways, as Sega has sadly departed from the market.

        The X-Box had a very similar strategy to the Sega consoles: You can't compete with Sony and Nintendo when it comes to the huge quantity of available games, so compete on quality and make money off a smaller niche of the market.

        I have a lot of PS/2 owning friends who consider the graphics to be "good enough", but when I see their games fired up I sometimes wonder if we are looki
        • What's even more amazing is that there was a survey done somewhere, and quite a large portion of the average joes couldn't tell the difference between the PS1 and PS2's graphics...so good luck selling 'em this new generation ;)
          • What's even more amazing is that there was a survey done somewhere, and quite a large portion of the average joes couldn't tell the difference between the PS1 and PS2's graphics...so good luck selling 'em this new generation ;)

            Wow, that's pure BS. I owned a PS1, and now own a PS2. There is a huge difference between the graphics. Quit being such an XBox fanboy. Find me the survey... and it better not have been sponsored by MS.

            The fact is that you will see more of a jump from the PS2 to PS3 because t

    • Re:Sony is deluded. (Score:2, Informative)

      by sdhankin ( 213671 )
      Classic revisionist history - Sony released the PS2 a year before the Xbox. Don't trust your memory on this one. What you "seem to recall" is the opposite of what actually happened.

      Fanboys.

      • Re:Sony is deluded. (Score:2, Informative)

        by Golias ( 176380 )
        As I explained to an earlier reply, I had the X-Box mixed up with the Dreamcast, which was the console which Sony was trashing to get people to wait for the PS/2.

        So it happened, just with a different console than I remembered off the top of my head.

        (P.S. Don't assume everybody you disagree with is a "fanboy." If you knew me, you wouldn't consider calling me a Microsoft fan of any stripe. If anything, I'm a Macintosh bigot.)
        • Well it's not hard to consider that you can't tell the Dreamcast apart from the Xbox when you can't tell a modern console like the PS2 apart from an old IBM computer like the PS/2. Or is that some kind of funny joke to you in your little world?

          I have to admit that with the first generation of games on the PS2 it didn't look all that more powerful than the Dreamcast; however, look at the games now. Try to compare games like GTA:SA and Metal Gear Solid 3 to anything on the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast's most

          • I'm going to have to disagree here... Both the graphics and level of immersion in Shenmue on the Dreamcast are still of a much higher quality than what can be found on the majority of PS2 games today. Not only that, but we never got to see anything past the first couple of second gen games...for all we know the Dreamcast could be doing some pretty incredible things right now if it were given the chance. Sega only dropped it b/c they were too far in debt from the Saturn, it's not that they didn't believe it
    • People bought the PS2 for more than the GTA series. Sony's developer support is second to none. The XBox's games look better than PS2 games, but not significantly better. XBox's slight edge in graphics was not enough to overcome the dearth of quality games available for it. Whereas Sony had numerous quality games in every genre (RPGs, platformers, fighting, rhythm games, etc.) the only area where XBox shined was in computer styled shooters. Sony had a little something for everyone, XBox was for the con

    • Re:Sony is deluded. (Score:2, Interesting)

      by UWC ( 664779 )
      Of course, for many other people, there simply is no reason to own a game console apart from playing Halo.

      I'm really expecting all three systems to be similar in technical capabilities. It will be a matter of games and, this time, services and ease of use, that distinguish the various systems, I think.

      While I know the XBox 360 is much closer to release than the PS3, I've noticed a very large difference in their hype strategies. Sony is doing the same thing they did with the PS2 by hyping the hardware's

      • I'd expect the "free live weekends" to be fairly sporatic and not that frequent. Think of how on cable they'll let you watch HBO for free like 3 weekends out of the year....
    • PS/2.. sure was a step up from that horrid AT. The graphics just couldn't compare. :p

  • Great... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Winterblink ( 575267 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:25PM (#12544968) Homepage
    Is Microsoft about to do in the living room with the Xbox 360 what it did in the office with Windows?

    I hope not. Every office I've worked in has invested heavily in Microsoft Office products, and it's not uncommon to hear profanity-laden comments about Word headers and footers, or some silly idiosyncracy of Outlook. The last thing I need is to come home and have my living room be a den of annoyance.

  • Games, Games, Games (Score:5, Insightful)

    by r_benchley ( 658776 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:30PM (#12545002)
    If Microsoft can convince enough Japanese developers to make games for the system (By this I mean Capcom, Konami, Square, Namco, etc. NOT, games made by ex-employees of these companies that they've hired for their second-party developers) they'll be competitive with Sony. If it's a repeat of this last generation of consoles, they'll wind up with about 15 - 20% of the console market. Halo and a bunch of games that are available on Sony and Nintendo's machines won't be enough to take the console crown.
    • You know, as a Mac owner, never once have I given a damn that their market share is so tiny.

      Sure, there were a few years there in the late 90s when their dwindling share had me worried that they might go out of business, but that's another matter.

      As long as people are happy with a product, why should anyone give a damn how popular it is with other people. My X-Box plays several games which I really enjoy, and there's only one game out there (GTA-SA) which makes me the least bit jealous of other consoles.
      • well, lukily for you, san andreas is only about a month away for the ol xbox, and has more features (and purdy pictures) than the ps2 version. I have a ps2 ( a second hand one that needs some work, however) but im waiting for it to hit the xbox. Why? i prefer the controller. Thats basically it. (oh, and my ps2 doesnt, um, work)
    • Why is Japanese support thought to be so critical for consoles? Just because they have controlled the marketplace since the mid-80s doesn't mean that there's some magical juice that makes Japanese games or hardware better than American ones. If anything, we should be supporting Microsoft for taking back the industry from overseas instead of declaring that they will fail because they don't have Japanese developer support.

      • Re:Games, Games, Games (Score:4, Insightful)

        by jericho4.0 ( 565125 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @03:13PM (#12546212)
        " Why is Japanese support thought to be so critical for consoles?"

        As of May 8, 2005 [m-create.com], the PS2 had 22.81% of the market in Japan, while the XBox had a 0.10%. (I can't figure out whether the data in the link is total console numbers, software numbers, or weekly sales, whatever) In a population of 127,417,244, that's a big deal. If the Japanese are not buying your console, developers are not writing for it.

        • The US has a population of 300 million plus. The EU has a population of 500 million plus. (I don't have numbers for Canada, Mexico and South America.) It seems to be like the Japan numbers are pretty much a drop in the bucket-- they should be focusing their efforts on Europe and the US first (like they are), and Korea and Japan second.

  • Enough with the Xbox hype already! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by metamatic ( 202216 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:30PM (#12545004) Homepage Journal
    How many Microsoft astroturfers are working full time to get this amount of "Xbox 360 will rule the gaming industry!" crap onto Slashdot?

    I really don't give a crap about how great Xbox 360 is supposed to be. There was only one game on Xbox I wanted to play that wasn't on one of the other consoles; that is the real problem with Xbox, not the hardware. Same goes for GameCube, really.

    I'm quite happy with the graphical sophistication my GameCube already pumps out in Metroid Prime; what I want is good games.

    The only place where I see the hardware as important is PS3, because frankly the PS2 is showing its limits, games like GT4 notwithstanding.

    And remember: Microsoft has succeeded in turning a profit and becoming #1 in exactly two markets: office applications, and desktop operating systems. They've failed in every single other arena. Their success in gaming consoles would be remarkable, given their long history of failures and the strong competition. Xbox 360's dominance is far from assured, and the pro-Microsoft FUD being spread on Slashdot doesn't change that.
    • Expect to be up to your armpits in PS3 hype too as of this afternoon around 3pm(pacific). Sony's having a pre-E3 press conference today.
    • But the xbox360 promises to be better than a flying car, how can you keep your dollars in your pocket with so much hype? Yeah. I wish they'd shut up about it too. The only hype I'll buy into is if some game comes out that everyone thinks is great, then I'll be interested in buying that game. I've seen enough advanced hype in my life to know ahead of time that sea monkeys aren't a space age replacement for a normal pet. It insults my intelligence for someone to claim a new console is going to change the
    • Oh, so since I'm excited about the Xbox 360 and looking forward to owning one, I must work for Microsoft and do "astroturfing?" Get a grip on reality, man. I don't have any issues with Microsoft as a company and I really like my Xbox 1. That doesn't mean I'm a paid shill, that means I tried out the system and I made up my own damn mind without being influenced by this typical Slashdot bullshit.

      I'm sorry that I'm not thinking like a Slashdot drone, but I'm buying a Xbox 360 when they come out-- the idioc
    • I own all three consoles...so when a game comes out on multiple consoles, I can pick which one I want to get. If I have a choice between all 3, I will get it on the x-box because I like it's controller the best and it looks the better than the other consoles on my TV.

      I don't blame you for being cynical and think this stuff is astroturfing. It could be. But why don't you just not read the stuff instead of freaking out.

      pro-Microsoft FUD on Slashdot? Are you kidding? You must be referring to the article
      • I started off with a PS2, because it had the most games I wanted to play. I got a GameCube next, because it was dirt cheap and had at least half a dozen games I really wanted to play. But like I say, the Xbox only has one exclusive game I really want to play. So even if the Xbox was from another company, I doubt I'd buy it.

        I'm pretty critical of Nintendo and their overemphasis on cutesy crap too. (Please, someone, kill Mario!) But at least they had enough great exclusive games to make it worth getting the
  • how long do i have to wait for the free version on Xbox then, openxbox?

  • Sony Could Offer (Score:3, Funny)

    by Bruha ( 412869 ) on Monday May 16, 2005 @01:44PM (#12545172) Homepage Journal
    Upscaling of DVD's to HD with tweaks and filters to really make your DVD's look good.

    It could also offer a platform that could record all your dvd's to network drives for instant playback at the touch of a button.

    It could also be a DVR for SD and HD content.

    Sorry folks but while graphics are cool good games are important but come second to managing the entertainment content of the house.

    People dont like managing cd collections, game collections, and dvd collections come in 2nd to taking up space to the VHS tape. I think Laserdisc was probably worse but how many people actually bought more than 20 of them.

    I want a device that has the ability through a open API that would allow others to write plugins that would let it interface with a iPod or other digitial media player. I want it to recode my movies on the fly and compress them down to fit on a 1g SD memory card to I can have some entertainment on my PDA. And if the wife is watching a recorded program on the TV in the living room I'd love the ability to load up a network tool that would let me play a video game on a PC monitor that's saved back on the PS3.

    Do all this without any DRM encumberances and you will rule the home entertainment arena not just play in it.

  • Good Luck (Score:4, Interesting)

    by MBCook ( 132727 ) <foobarsoft@foobarsoft.com> on Monday May 16, 2005 @02:44PM (#12545910) Homepage
    I follow gaming quite a bit, and here is what I have to say on all this.

    First is the "media center" idea of the XBox 360. Good luck. You'll need it. I have a DVD player. Everyone does. In fact, I have many (computer, PS2, etc.). But the feature is nearly free, so I don't blame them for including it. Sony will do better in that regard because their machine will play Blu-Ray discs. But as for the rest of it, they are going to have a hard time getting me to use it for anything but games. Play music? Why should I rerip all my CDs? And even if they were in MP3 (they are in AAC), I bet I couldn't just copy them over to the X-Box 360, I'd have to re-rip them. I'm not going to do that. Unless I can stream them to the machine, I won't use that part. I won't play DVDs on it (already covered that). Now playing video would be nice if I could stream if off my computer (a Mac). But my guess is that you can only do that from a Windows Media Center eddition computer, which doesn't help me. They can put all the media features they want, it doesn't matter to me, I'll only be buying it for the games. I don't care about videoconfrencing, VOIP chat, or editing home movies (or anything else they come up with). It is a console, and while it is nice they will pack on all those features, I don't think it will make any real difference in sales.

    The thing that WILL make a difference (in my mind) is the micropayments thing they are talking about. I don't know about the rest of you, but the idea of paying $1 so my character can wear a shirt that they sell at Old Navy sounds like one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I will not be buying virtual shirts. I will not be paying money to unlock content on the disc. I refuse to pay to buy pointless items. I don't care if everyone who plays the game online gets a bright pink shirt with the word "Luzer" on it unless they buy another one, I'm not doing it. Go milk someone else for money, that idea will fail. And based on other industries (I'm looking at you cell phone companies), I wouldn't be buying that virtual shirt, I would be RENTING it for $1 per month. I WON'T PAY MONEY TO RENT VIRTUAL CLOTHING. I don't see myself buying extra soundtracks, cars to race with, new tracks, new levels, new playable characters, etc.

    As for the X-Box 1.5 remark, it has some truth. The X-Box 360 is big because it has 3 cores. That is the most important part in my mind because it means that you have an additional 2 cores above what the current generation has for things like dynamically generated models (LOD on terain and such), and most importantly enemy AI. That single handedly more than trippled the ammount of CPU available to AI, so AI should get much more interesting in upcomming games.

    As for the PS3, it is revolutionary in it's Cell architecture, providing 8 cores. Now because they are so specialized, they may be harder to program. But if it works out (I should probably say "when" because with Sony, they'll find a way to get benefit out of it even if it takes a while), it will make the X-Box 360 look like an X-Box 1.5 in how far they are from the programming model of the last generation of consoles.

    Nintendo is the wildcard in all this. I saw what is suposedly their logo for the Revolution (which I doubt is real because Nintendo always changes from the codenames of their systems). But if what they are promising works out, it sounds quite interesting. Now the question is (after writing all the above) will the Revolution have multiple cores? If not, they could be at a real disadvantage once games start taking advantage of 'em.

    The next year or so should be interesting to watch. I like the idea of MS releasing Halo 3 when the PS3 comes out because of the shear bravado of it. But if Halo 3 isn't as good as people hope (or the PS3 has some amazingly popular break out launch title) then the move could backfire. The other thing to watch on MS's part is backwards compatibility. That is the ONLY feature that I care about from them that would change my mind on purchase. Right now

    • Re:Good Luck (Score:3, Interesting)

      by hollismb ( 817357 )

      "First is the "media center" idea of the XBox 360. Good luck. You'll need it. I have a DVD player. Everyone does. In fact, I have many (computer, PS2, etc.). But the feature is nearly free, so I don't blame them for including it. Sony will do better in that regard because their machine will play Blu-Ray discs. But as for the rest of it, they are going to have a hard time getting me to use it for anything but games. Play music? Why should I rerip all my CDs? And even if they were in MP3 (they are in AAC), I

      • Didn't know that, I haven't followed that close. I still doubt I'll use it (I have an Airport Express that I already use for that), but it's good that they did that. Without my Airport Express I would be likely to use it.

        Now if they can only make it so I can use it for video...

    • Multiple cores are great for computers, but having 8 cores is overkill for a game. It would be hard to think of a use for all of them. Like, you could have a thread for audio, a thread for graphics, for ai, etc, but making things multithreaded for the sake of multithreading often slows things down (and thats why a lot of microkernel OS's are slower) Think about it, you have to coordinate the actions between all the threads, make sure everything stays in sync etc. It's just not an easy, and most of the time
    • You obviously don't run Xbox Media Center on your Xbox do you? It's like sex if it came in a little black box.
  • it's how you hype it. ;)

    Seriously, it's only Monday, and all this Xbox talk, that will without a doubt continue all week, is going to make me vomit.

    <flamebait>
    The Xbox is just a gaming PC for Posers, and Halo is a FPS for Posers!
    </flamebait>

  • I guess I don't understand... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ultramk ( 470198 ) <ultramk@noSPAm.pacbell.net> on Monday May 16, 2005 @03:29PM (#12546425)
    I just don't get all the hate and vitriol that console fanboys spew on boards like this.

    Is being anti-ms or pro-ms so important to people? Is this like a large core of your existence?

    It seems pretty simple to me...

    1. If you like a console, and the games available for it, buy it.
    2. If you don't like a console, or its games, don't buy it.
    3. If you like all the consoles, buy them all.

    So much is subjective... from gameplay styles to graphics. Some people prefer the more cartoony (imo) Nintendo stuff, some like the range of Sony games, some like the Xbox for its superior graphics or whatever. Great! That means that whatever you like, there will be something for you. Does it really hurt you as a person when someone else buys something you wouldn't have?

    "M$ is evil blah blah blah"

    Um, so? Blind hate is as misguided as blind adulation. You do realize that the developers working inside that huge company are just as committed to creating great things as the developers at ANY large company. They wouldn't be in the business if they didn't love it.

    Hate Gates for being a tool if you want, and Balmer for being a twit, but the devs are like devs anywhere (though they seem to fall more on the brilliant/antisocial end of the scale, perhaps because of hiring practices.)

    For the record, I own all 3 consoles, but I haven't plugged in the GC in months, and the PS2 only really gets use for Katamari Damaci. I'm addicted to PGR2 on the Xbox, though.

    Of course, maybe if I owned a PC I would understand the hatred better... (I like my G5 too much.)

    m-
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    • Um, so? Blind hate is as misguided as blind adulation.

      So what about informed dislike?

      I put up with microsoft when necessary, but i don't like their buisness practices and in the case of consoles there's nothing necessary about it. I can get a PS2 and a GameCube, or a PS3 and a Revolution, and not be missing out on much from the lack of any kind of XBox.

      I'd rather not see Microsoft start using the same kinds of tactics in the game industry that they've been using in other areas. Nintendo and Sony are

      • Fine. Better the intellectual honesty that comes from saying "I just don't like the company" (for whatever reason) than slamming a machine (and the people who use it) for some bizarre, made up reason.

        People who compare the rumored specs of one unreleased product to the rumored specs of another unreleased product, and then proclaim a winner.... well, they have too much time on their hands.

        IMO, competition is a good thing.

        m-
  • So has anybody told Bungie yet they are releasing another game in less than a year? Even people who believe in Santa Claus believes that he has elves building toys for him--they don't just come out of thin air. It took more than a year to make Halo 1, and more than a year to make Halo 2. Bungie hasn't even officially announced their next game yet. In fact they have been working on fixing Halo 2 and making new maps until recently. If they plan on releasing Halo 3 even more sloppily than Halo 2 (I'm not tryin
    • Bungie would have been in development for some time. There was a shipment of G5 PowerMacs to Microsoft quite some time ago (it was newsworthy at the time, since the MS intern lost his job for taking photos and publishing them on the Internet).

      They've also had a big head start by not *really* finishing Halo-2. There's a lot of plot left to come out, apparently. ... which reminds me... I really must get that keyboard/mouse controller for the X-Box and try Halo-2 again... There might be an outside chance I ca
  • It seems that for years, with each new console that comes out, we hear all about how it will revolutionize the living room, be the media hub of the world, etc etc, and then when it hits, it just gets used for games, until the next version is due, and then we go through it all again. Come on already, I want my console-based media center!
    • I think the Mac Mini will revolutionize the living room. I checked out the RSS Screen saver function on tiger from my friends DLP Television and it looks beautiful.

      Only problem of course is the lack of games for the Mac, or lack of games that would work well with the Mac mini. I think if the Mac mini price point hits 300 with a better graphics card. It will make an attractive console/media center.

  • Is Microsoft about to do in the living room with the Xbox 360 what it did in the office with Windows?

    No
  • I certainly hope they dont, the blue glare coming from the T.V at random intervals would drive me fucking nuts.

    Not to mention the slow down as your xbox gets compleatly infested with spyware and virii. Does this mean I have to purchase virus software for my console?

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