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Lego Mindstorms NXT Robotics Announced 190

Denver_80203 writes "Just when you thought Lego Mindstorms was grinding its last gear, comes the announcement of Lego Mindstorms NXT Robotics Toolset, with sleek servo motors, an ultrasonic sensor which allows robots to 'see' by responding to movement, a sound sensor which enables robots to react to sound commands (including sound pattern and tone recognition) improved touch and light sensors, and a and a programmable brick with at least 7 or 8 RJ11 type jacks. Robot fun! Out in August 2006, and in true Lego style will cost $249." Wired has a preview of the cover story about the new kit on their site.
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Lego Mindstorms NXT Robotics Announced

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  • Zoom In! (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:37AM (#14399933)

    If you look at the high-resolution image [lego.com], you can see that it has 7 RJ11 jacks and one USB port (top right corner).

    The top three RJ11 ports look like servo outputs, the bottom four look like sensor inputs (though the fourth port is unnumbered; wonder why).

  • by gatzke ( 2977 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:37AM (#14399939) Homepage Journal

    Nice, but most people here love RCX because we grew up with legos. RCX lets you get into the game without some crazy robotics boards / motors / computing stuff. Middle school kids can handle it.

    BTW, for everyone with small kids, Lego now has super big quatro legos, double the size of duplo legos which are double normal size. Quatro runs from 1-3, duplo usually starts at age 2+...
  • by everphilski ( 877346 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:38AM (#14399945) Journal
    I know slashdot ran a story [slashdot.org] on what went wrong, but they are far from dead. There is the FIRST [usfirst.org] Lego Racing League, which is a robotics compeition for grade school kids across the country. (Which then evolves into higher level products as they advance into high school). Heck I know several kids whose got RIS2.0 sets for Christmas. The parents are tired of their kids only seeing computers as video game machines - these kits are an excellent segway between fun and programming. There are plenty of high school and college kids, even adults doing stuff with them too... for example Jin Sato [amazon.com] there is an available C compiler, even a Real Time OS!

    -everphilski-
  • by lechuck80 ( 672996 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:39AM (#14399955)
    Try Ebay- I picked up 40 or so lbs of unsorted pieces for a good price. Guy even had some cheap lego webcamera thrown in.
  • Software development (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:43AM (#14399988)
    I really really hope they provide som sort of API to control it using other languages.

    I want to be able to write a program in maybe C#, Java, C++ compile it, translate it and then send it to the control unit.

    The old mindstorms biggest annoyance was the stupid interface, okay labview is a lot better but still not the same.
  • Bluetooth! (Score:2, Informative)

    by cparisi ( 136611 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @10:59AM (#14400089) Homepage
    Bluetooth support is awesome. One of the things I did not like about the original was the IR transmitter.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:03AM (#14400112)
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  • Not Quite C... (Score:4, Informative)

    by everphilski ( 877346 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:03AM (#14400113) Journal
    But almost http://bricxcc.sourceforge.net/nqc [sourceforge.net]
  • by robberbarron ( 171029 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:04AM (#14400117)
    It has Mac support this time out.

    http://mindstorms.lego.com/?domainredir=www.mindst orms.com [lego.com]
  • SNOT fans rejoice (Score:3, Informative)

    by unfortunateson ( 527551 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:07AM (#14400141) Journal
    Fans of SNOT (Studs Not On Top) Lego design will love this kit, because there aren't any studs. It looks like everything's designed to hook together with Technic axles and connectors, and no "basic brick" connectivity.

    When I was a FIRST Lego League coach, the designs often embedded motors, sensors, even the RCX as part of the structure. The latter was usually a bad, bad, idea, since you'd have to disassemble major parts of your bot to replace batteries, and during a competition, you'd replace batteries every other run.

    I welcome the sensor-laden motors, bluetooth, ultrasonic 'vision'... but I wonder if they've beefed up the programming any. Lack of backward compatibility is a surprise -- I've got a number of old sensors and motors.
  • by Raleel ( 30913 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:08AM (#14400145)
    from the article:

    There were plenty of strategic blunders behind the dismal results: a misguided foray into making PC software games, expensive licensing arrangements (chiefly with Disney), and designs that puzzled rather than entertained. "We had started to make fire trucks that look like spaceships, building systems that no customer could truly appreciate," says Mads Nipper, a Lego senior vice president. "We had to clean that up."

    awesome!
  • by Herve5 ( 879674 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:09AM (#14400158)
    From the very Lego page itself:

    "The heart of the new system is the NXT brick, an autonomous 32-bit LEGO microprocessor that can be programmed using a PC, or for the first time in the retail offering, a Mac."
  • by saltydogdesign ( 811417 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:10AM (#14400170)
    RTFA. Mindstorms 2.0 was the best-selling Lego kit of all time at $200.
  • by Andy_R ( 114137 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:17AM (#14400219) Homepage Journal
    If you squint at the enlarged version of the left hand pic from the wired article, you'll get a rather pleasant surprise: it is going to be Mac compatible!
  • by jdhutchins ( 559010 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:31AM (#14400368)
    There are actually many ways to program the original Mindstorms RCX. Although initially the only language was the one it came with, it was soon hacked. Languages were developed that took advantage of the default firmware (NQC), but many more were created that completely replaced the existing firmware. You could cross-compile C for it, and there was also a tiny Java VM that ran on it. Neither of these offloaded stuff to the PC.
  • by Aristos Mazer ( 181252 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @11:38AM (#14400427)
    It is high-grade, precision engineeered plastic. The LEGO robotics sets are made from lots of pieces of various shapes, not just one shape replicated thousands of times. Compare up against some of the LEGO knock-offs that are much cheaper. They hold together when you're building a static building, but if you try to build something that moves, they fall to pieces. You need plastic that fits *exactly* so that gears don't grind against each other and torque doesn't tear the robot apart. Personally, I'm impressed with the price -- it's asking a lot to get this kind of resource down to the point where kids can ever get ahold of it.
  • by MirrorSpock ( 466201 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @12:36PM (#14401011) Homepage
    if you check the website (http://mindstorms.lego.com/ [lego.com]) it claims mac & pc support
  • by Carl T ( 749426 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @01:23PM (#14401479) Homepage
    8 power setting motors

    Not really, though. The outputs are really just on or off, but if you toggle them fast enough you can emulate a whole range of output voltages. Which, incidentally, is what the horribly limited system the RCX ships with does, though so slowly that the motors make wicked grinding noises (well, at least mine do) if you run them at anything less than full speed.

    IHMO (less humble now, perhaps, after a glass or two), the processor in the RCX isn't all that limited. Sure, you only have 16-bit registers and 32 kB, but it runs at a higher frequency than the 68k in my Amiga 500. Which makes me wonder whether I should spend the weekend playing with LEGO or playing old computer games...

  • by rossifer ( 581396 ) on Thursday January 05, 2006 @03:13PM (#14402653) Journal
    Casing is a major problem for people that don't have access to the equipment required for PVC modelling.

    How about access to a supermarket? Get a Rubbermaid or Tupperware sandwich container and some standoffs and you're off to the races with a fairly slick case for under $5 ($10-$15 for the Tupperware, but Tupperware has a stronger edge to the bowl part, which can be worth the extra cost).

    If you're worried about the "ghetto" look, cut properly sized round holes and use rubber grommets or small metal bulkhead connectors to clean up the edges. If you do a decent job locating the holes, it will look very nice, and with the removeable top, it's quite functional too!

    One of the skills I find most useful in amateur robotics is the ability to repurpose everyday items. When I go into Home Depot, I'll start playing with something on just about any aisle and my fiance will ask me, "What kind of a robot part are you going to make from that?" The worst aisles by far are in plumbing. Worst as in hardest for me to get through without stopping multiple times.

    Regards,
    Ross
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