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Assassins, Bullies, and Messiahs 47

Posted by Zonk from the oh-my dept.
Some interesting news for a few upcoming game titles. Firstly (to no one's surprise), Assassin's Creed is coming to the 360. It will also be available for the PC. Secondly, Valve and Ubisoft have announced that Dark Messiah is coming to Steam when it releases in October. Chris Grant's commentary: "Ubisoft is acknowledging the demand for digitally distributed AAA content and using the largest platform they can find to promote it. We're still waiting on government-distributed protein pills and personal submarines, but the third pillar of our future vision is now realized." Finally, Rockstar appears to have partially bowed to public pressure over their 'Bully' title. In Europe, at least, Bully is now known as Canis Canem Edit, which means 'Dog Eat Dog' in Latin. To which I respond: Semper Ubi Sub Ubi.
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  • What does it mean? (Score:5, Informative)

    by IHSW ( 960644 ) on Friday September 01, 2006 @01:04PM (#16025006)
    Semper ubi sub ubi is a pun based on the English gloss of a malformed Latin phrase: "always where under where." The motto is used as a joke by Latin students and others to mean "always wear underwear."

    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semper_ubi_sub_ubi [wikipedia.org]
    • > Semper ubi sub ubi is a pun based on the English gloss of a malformed Latin phrase: "always where under where." The motto is used as a joke by Latin students and others to mean "always wear underwear."

      Nil ubi sub ubi would be more appropriate for a Rockstar game. After all, the game also has a "Hot Coffee" rap video. Goes something like magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri. [livejournal.com] (Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter!)

    • Vidi, Vici, Veni.
      • More commonly said as "Veni, vidi, vici". (note: Latin typically does not use much punctuation and in most cases it does not matter what order in which you put the words; however, "it sounds better this way" and, of course, it is the way Ceasar said it.)

        Message sent to the Roman Senate by Gaius Julius Cesar about his victory in the Battle of Zela. "I came, I saw, I conquered"

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veni,_vidi,_vici [wikipedia.org]
  • What you are essentially doing is renting the game at retail price. You can't even resell the game without paying a $10 transfer fee. Culture is going out the window if we buy into this junk. Imagine having kids 15 to 20 years down the road and waiting to show them the games, music, videos you used to enjoy. You won't be able to because the content is locked.

    Copyright is limited, but DRM is forever.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Thansal ( 999464 )
      Simple answer? ease. I live in NYC, in are middle-of-no-where-Queens, and it is a pain to get out on release day to buy a new game, so I generaly have to roder it online. Now give me that chance to order it online and have it as soon as I download it (or instantly if it is preloaded) then sign me up! Yes, I bought HL2 and HL2 Ep1 via steam. And if you honestly think you are going to want to sell the game to some one else then create a new steam account and purchase it there! I personaly have 2 steam a
    • actually as long as steam still exists in some form you can continue to play the games. They let you make backups of all software you've purchased, they also keep track of what you've boughten. If my hdd goes kaput, as long as I remember my login/password they'll let me download the game again. I can also manage to get some games that either cannot be purchased in physical form, or are a bitch to find now.
      As far as reselling goes, it does really suck, but I could imagine you could add $10 to what you were g

  • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 )
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    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Brothernone ( 928252 )
      Steam is an on-line contenet dilivery service. You downlaod and play games through steam. Each person is assigned a sepcific ID taht keeps track of what games you've purchased. If your local copy is deleted, steam knows that you have payed for the game, and simply lets you redownload it. Steam does not need to be connected to the interenet to play. Your games that are used through steam cannot be accessed any other way. If you use the icon to open say HL2 or CSS it will open steam, then launch the game. Man

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Thansal ( 999464 )
      Basicly Steam replaced WON a few years back. WON was Valve's old server for listing servers. Steam does these things: 1) List servers for Valve Games 2) Chat system (the friends system worked, then stoped, and is now aparently back, think kinda like XBL system) 3) Content distribution platform (be it automaticly pushing out patches, making demos/videos avaliable at good speeds, or downloading a new game) 4) Store 5) Anti pirac 1 and 2 are non enteties as far as the Steam love/hate goes number 3 is a goo

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by grumbel ( 592662 )
      Can someone explain Steam to me?

      Think of it as something like an apt-get for games, just with some added stuff for copy-protection and payment.

    • What if you don't have net access when you want to play?

      Provided you've logged in once and set Steam to log you in automatically, you can play single player games (and maybe LAN, I'm not sure) offline.

  • Even non-Latin Students can translate this: (Score:3, Funny)

    by fujiman ( 912957 ) on Friday September 01, 2006 @02:23PM (#16025656)
    Osibili si ergo
    fortibuses in ero
    Nobili demis trux
    Vatis enim?
    Covsendux!

    That was on my 8th grade Latin exam. ;)

  • Assassin's Creed coming to Xbox 360? There goes my only interest in PS3. Assassin's Creed coming to PC? There goes my only interest in Xbox 360. *hugs PC*
    • Indeed. I've seen nothing compelling to make me interested in a 360. And now the only compelling game left (thus far) for PS3 is Heavenly Sword. If that'll be available for PC also, I look forward to sticking w/ my plan to purchase a Wii and keep the PS360 market away from my wallet.
    • Indeed - recently I've been thinking about picking up a 360 after new year but it would only be for exclusives and Assassin's Creed on the PC should keep me happy. However, MS will at least get some money from me as when the game comes out I plan to buy a wired 360 pad to play it on my PC.
  • It's "Dog eats dog"!
  • ...Is exactly what oblivion's combat should've been. That's some awesome video.

  • How unfortunate. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Fallingcow ( 213461 ) on Friday September 01, 2006 @05:42PM (#16027143) Homepage
    I've been hoping that no other companies would start using Steam. I decided to give them a chance, and didn't jump on the "it's DRMed to hell and you don't really own the game" bandwagon (though I see where they're coming from). I bought HL2. It's fun, and so is Counterstrike:Source, but dicking with Steam is WAY too much work for something that I just want to play every now and then. I occasionally want to play a round or two of CS:S, but since my last format+reinstall, I've just not cared enough about it enough to install Steam. I *know* that, if I could just pop in a CD and install it, I'd have done so months ago, and gotten hours of playing in. Knowing that, I'm beginning to realize how much of the value of a game Steam destroys.

    I've been eyeing those HL2:Episode 1 boxes at the store, and I'd kind of like to play it. The reason I haven't picked one up and taken it through the checkout? Steam. I don't want to install it again. It's just too damn annoying. I don't know how many other people feel this way, but I'd bet that they've lost a fairly large number of sales--people like me, who'd pick up the game and buy it at the store, don't do it, because Steam makes it feel like the process of purchasing their product is continuous and never-ending, rather than being a 5-minute wait in line at the store that you never have to worry about again. Maybe they're still making more money this way, selling through Steam, in spite of this kind of thing. I don't know, but I hope they're not.

    I like the ability to get some mods through Steam. That's about the only thing I've seen in it that I like, but a similar system could be made without most of the other crap, and without making it a requirement to play the game at all.

    I fear that, if Steam takes off, it'll offset all of the great things about PC gaming. That may force me to go 100% console. What a dark, dark day that will be. :(

    (Not hating on consoles, I like them, but almost all of my top 20 or so gaming experiences have been on the PC, and many would likely not have been possible or not been as great on a console, for a number of reasons)
    • Wow, sounds like you haven't bothered with steam since the, admitedly rocky, HL2 launch. From a fresh format, this is what I have to "go through" in order to install Half Life 2.
      1. Download Steam. It's less than a meg to download
      2. Wait for it to update. It takes 30 seconds or so on a broadband connection
      3. Look on my games list for the game I want to install and double click on it.

      This is really the longest part of the process, where it has to download and install the entire game, and admitedly it does ta

      • I agree. Steam used to be a piece of crap, but has come a LONG way. I recently reinstalled CS:S and DoD:S. I think I averaged around 800KB/s (note the big B) downloading both of them. IIRC, it took about an hour to install both of them. Not quite as fast as installing with a CD, but certainly faster than hopping in the car, driving to and from the nearest game shop and installing it. Plus, it enables me to avoid that scary fireball in the sky.
    • Wow what a bunch of BS and black PR. I bought HL2 at release (and I mainly bought it for CS:S) since then I reinstalled half a dozen times, changed hardware 3 times, changed many hard drives . And never ever I had to reinstall anything. Thats right - on a freshly installed Windows it all took 5 seconds to drage steam icon to desktop in 10 seconds later I could play (provided my games were up to date -case not it took all 2-3 minutes to get updates for last half a year) .

      Steam is not perfect,and
      • Meh, that was just my experience with it.

        I think the worst part was, as I said, the feeling of being in the checkout line never ends. It feels like I am forever in the process of buying the game, even when it's already been paid for. It's bizarre, and not something I've ever experienced before. I definately don't like it.
        • I dont get why you get this feeling. -yes it checks your account login/password, but it never asks you to pay for games you already bought. If anything I like this system because I will never have to worry about media for games on steam - I can always redownload them at no fee and no questions asked. And you can play offline just fine ( when I had trouble with my provider I still could play all games no problem).

          I mean I can understand that related to some crap activation system (cough..cough.. wi
          • It seemed like I could never just *play the game* without making sure that Steam was appeased first. It's gotta check for updates or whatever, then probably download something and install it (I didn't play much after the first few weeks, when I'd finished playing through HL2 twice), and if I cancel it then it'll probably complain and refuse to let me play any games offline 'till I let it finish (and start the updating again if I plug the ethernet cable back in).

            Of course, I didn't leave it on all the time,
            • How it is different from anything else? If anything automatic update checking is a boon .Example -BF2 ,after a long break I want to play it ,but I cant ,because I didnt patch to the latest version. Now I have to manually find the patch ,download it ,install and then find no -cd crack (if its available) -since it will ask me for CD which is long time gone. -Thats a hassle. Steam on the other hand updates everything automatically in less than 5 minutes (usually) and never asks me for CD and I never have a h
              • Auto-updating: good for multiplayer games.

                Bad for single-player games.

                Look, I didn't even realize I hated Steam as much as I do until I was at the store, saw HL2:EP1 on the shelf, and caught myself thinking, "hm, that's probably fun, maybe I should buy it... but wait, then I'd have to install Steam again, and that blows so much that I'm not going to buy this game."

                Then, "whoa, I had no idea that I disliked Steam that much. Weird."

  • The irony... (Score:3, Funny)

    by LordEd ( 840443 ) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @01:56AM (#16028728)
    Rockstar has renamed its Bully game due to bullying from the public.

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