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Don't Forget the First Xbox 99

Posted by Zonk
from the all-hail-duke-duke-is-life dept.
Eurogamer wants to remind us that, before Microsoft's next-gen console, they had this large black box which was sold in stores. A few games were even made for it. They've come up with two lists, one detailing the twelve finest exclusives to grace the system and another to highlight poorly-selling but highly-entertaining 'cult classics' you may have missed the first time around. From the 'best of' list: "Halo made the Xbox - without it, Microsoft would have had a much tougher struggle in the console market, and it's really telling that five years on, almost everyone would still rate the first game as one of its top titles. Unsurprisingly, Halo spawned countless imitators, and the market is awash with the corpses of space-marine-shoots-aliens games which simply didn't resonate with the gaming audience in the same way. The reason is clear; Halo wasn't just a success because people want to be a space marine and shoot aliens. The game was the complete package; it had stirring narrative, great characters, epic, sweeping scale, and absolutely fantastic, haunting music. It may not have brought much to the table in terms of gameplay innovation, and many PC FPS fans turned their noses up at it for that reason - but the production values and the understanding of how to create an involving, cinematic experience which Bungie brought to bear were unmatched."
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Don't Forget the First Xbox

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  • Wii (Score:3, Insightful)

    by trisweb (690296) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @06:47PM (#16877982) Journal
    Someone has to say it, so I might as well... Nintendo isn't forgetting the NES/SNES/N64/Gamecube when releasing their next-gen, they're embracing them all. Somehow I think that's a better business strategy, for the very reason this article points out-- there were some great games for older consoles! Fun > Graphics.
  • Huh (Score:5, Insightful)

    by HappySqurriel (1010623) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @06:48PM (#16877992)
    Halo spawned countless imitators, and the market is awash with the corpses of space-marine-shoots-aliens games which simply didn't resonate with the gaming audience in the same way.

    Wait, Halo didn't create the first marine-shoots-aliens games they have existed for a very long time; you could argue that Halo was mostly a rip-off of the delivery method produced by Half-life (1998) and similar content and style of Doom (1994) [replace Demons with Aliens]. All Halo did was introduce console gamers to the modern (story based) PC first person shooter; at the time most of the First Person shooters released to consoles were still level based (think of Goldeneye/Perfect Dark).
  • Console Market (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 16, 2006 @06:50PM (#16878022)
    the Xbox - without it, Microsoft would have had a much tougher struggle in the console market

    Well duh. Without it they wouldn't have *been* in teh console market!

  • Re:LOAD OF CRAP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by brkello (642429) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @07:43PM (#16878590)
    Just because you didn't like the game, doesn't mean everyone who did were a bunch of "know-no-better kids". It is beyond me how intolerant garbage like your post gets modded up.

    On the other hand, it doesn't surprise me that much. There are just too many people on here that feel the only way to be cool is to trash the things other people like. By saying something that is popular is uncool, suddenly you feel special and more knowledgable on gaming. Get over yourselves. People like different things. By all means, talk about its lack of innovation, the fact that there are better games out there, that there are better FPS's out there. That can spawn healthy and interesting debate. But just belittling people that like something you don't? Come on, try to act civilized.
  • Re:LOAD OF CRAP (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 16, 2006 @07:49PM (#16878654)
    The best thing about Halo for me, and many others. Halo has done coop better then ANY other FPS EVER.
  • by Beefysworld (1005767) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @07:53PM (#16878710)
    I only picked up my Xbox at the start of this year. Strangely enough, it was bundled with three of the games mentioned in the second article (Voodoo Vince, Kung Fu Chaos and Crimson Skies) as well as the ever-present Halo. However, my primary reason for picking up a Xbox wasn't for gaming (I already owned a reasonable PC, a PS2 and a Gamecube). The main reason I bought the console is because it's one of the cheapest options for a media centre that I could find. A quick soft-mod later (after installing XBMC) and I had a console that could stream content from my PC straight onto my television. It was a blessing in disguise.
    Of course, that also allowed me to play games I hadn't necessarily purchased, but that's not the point. However, after playing around with it for a while I actually decided to pick up a X360 as well.
    Another reason the first Xbox was so successful was because it was the first console to truly incorporate online play. Xbox Live has been one of the biggest drawcards for the Microsoft consoles to date, though Sony and Nintendo have played catch up with the current generation of consoles.
  • Re:LOAD OF CRAP (Score:5, Insightful)

    by PaganRitual (551879) <splaga AT internode DOT on DOT net> on Thursday November 16, 2006 @09:30PM (#16879488)
    To be perfectly honest (and to unavoidably be marked as a troll no doubt) I think it's primarily a by-product of the fact that people constantly creaming themselves over Halo grates after a while. It's not just 'I like Halo' posts, it's where people really go above and beyond normal fanboyism to reach new hights of irritation and bullshit.

    Stuff like this is exactly what I'm talking about, it's almost embarassing to read. It's only a few posts about this one.

    http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=207010&c id=16878006 [slashdot.org]

    They're one of the few game companies that I feel really elevate gaming to an art.

    Holy shit. I mean, I can literally picture this guy reaching for the tissues. Whether it's because the game has brought him to tears or to orgasm is an exercise left to the reader. I try not to think about it too much.

    It's basically just a generic, actually quite poorly done shooter that was only successful because it came out on console, where people had rarely seen FPS, deathmatch, or the magic of Co-OP FPS. No one (well, maybe the parent of your post) is arguing that people aren't allowed to like it, it's just that watching something so ordinary get 9s and 10s across the board when most of that score is clearly for co-op/DM (which makes almost any FPS better) and having to listen to a constant stream of retarded fanboy bullshit can get tiring to the point where you lose all sense and feel like you should respond.

    I mean, to judge console FPS by the criteria that Halo is praised - graphics, story, AI (lol, seriously guys, Halo has no AI, come on, there could be a full post written on the rose colored glasses the fanboys wear when discussing this), gunplay ... right about ... now F.E.A.R. should be destroying Halo and taking it's rightful place and king of the console shooters. But it's not going to happen, because while F.E.A.R. is a better game in every way, Halo is loved for it's DM/Co-OP more than the game itself.

    And while nothing is inherently wrong with that, can people just shut the fuck up about Halo already.

    You like it.

    We get it.

    It's really not as good as you think. And most people are so fucking tired of hearing it.
  • by bym051d (980242) on Thursday November 16, 2006 @09:52PM (#16879676)
    The way Microsoft kicked the XBOX to the curb as quickly as possible after the 360 was released after such as short lifespan is a disservice to their customers. Some of the best PS2 games are coming out as or after the PS3 is released. The PS2 was released a year before the XBOX and has lasted a least a year past. Sure, it keeps the fanbois and enthusiasts happy, but they don't win the console wars.
  • Re:LOAD OF CRAP (Score:4, Insightful)

    by p0tat03 (985078) on Friday November 17, 2006 @05:36AM (#16881776)

    The popularity or acclaim of Halo isn't really because it's terribly revolutionary, because it's not. It is famous and celebrated because it is the first example of a console FPS *done right*. For that Bungie has to get a huge kudos from everyone. Console FPSes before Halo were extremely poor - even lauded games like Goldeneye were impossible to really control. Halo didn't innovate much, but it sure as hell nailed the execution.

    Though they DID invent the "recharging health meter" thing that's oh-so-popular with console FPSes these days. I like it. It takes the medpack-hunting angle out of the game, and doesn't punish players for taking a *wee* bit much damage in the last encounter, and having little chance to survive the next one. It forces players to be smart and pick their fights without making it into a strict numbers game.

    Oh, and need I remind you that despite the fact that Bungie didn't invent co-op, it was one of the VERY VERY few co-op FPSes of its day, consoles or otherwise. Hell, there really hasn't been a single good co-op shooter on consoles *or* PCs until Gears of War just now. They brought gamers' attentions back to co-op, and that deserves props.

  • Re:LOAD OF CRAP (Score:3, Insightful)

    by mattgreen (701203) on Friday November 17, 2006 @08:38AM (#16882758)
    Kind of like how everyone knows by now that people irrationally hate Microsoft, yet it continues to get modded up.

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