The Dark Side of HDCP - Why is My PS3 Blinking? 233
FloatsomNJetsom writes "High Definition Content Protection is supposed to make sure you're not playing pirated content, but sometimes your devices screw up the HDCP 'handshake' (over an HDMI cable) and nothing works. This happens with some regularity with the PS3, and Popular Mechanics investigated and found a quick and dirty workaround. From the article: 'We then checked with Leslie Chard, president of HDMI Licensing, which owns the rights to the standard, who told us that HDCP is one component of HDMI that has been plagued with interoperability issues. HDCP (high-bandwidth digital content protection) is designed to prevent the interception of data — specifically copyrighted Hollywood movies — between an output component and a display. As Steve Balough, the president of Digital Content Protection, the licensing company for HDCP explains, the two pieces of hardware must exchange a key, a sort of certificate of authenticity unique to each individual device, to verify a secure connection.' The problem isn't limited to the PS3 — many HDTV cable boxes and have the same problem. The fix there? Unplugging the power cable."
Yup (Score:5, Informative)
The PJ and deck are about three years old. I assumed these handshake issues had long been dealt with. Apparently not. So... the DRM is more than just a PITA. It's plain broken.
Re:Why not just use DVI instead of HDMI (Score:4, Informative)
Same probems happen with Cable STBs (Score:3, Informative)
That was copy protection too (Score:5, Informative)
Melissa
It is worse than that... (Score:4, Informative)
The bigger problem than handshaking issues is that there are apparently multiple versions of HDMI, the latest being 1.3. Now as a consumer, how the hell am I supposed to know which version of HDMI each of my devices have? Has anyone actually seen a version number in the specs for any device? The PS3, for instance uses the 1.3 spec. If my TV uses the 1.2 spec, anything that needs to use the 1.3 spec won't display content. How are they going to explain that to the user? "well, see, the HDMI port here is actually different than the HDMI port here. They look the same, and have nothing to distinguish one from the other, but TRUST ME, there is a difference." I expect that excuse won't fly in any court should a class action case be filed. If I ever get a PS3 (after it is... oh... half the price), and it refuses to play at full resolution because my TV is only 1.2, I will be mighty pissed off. The whole HDMI/HDCP thing is totally pointless and will end up being a royal pain in the ass to everyone except the content makers.
Re:It is worse than that... (Score:3, Informative)
Cycle the sources (Score:5, Informative)
In this case the issue isn't the PS3 but rather however your television handles the HDCP handshake. As I said, mine doesn't have an issue, but I do see a brief burst of noise when a game handshakes.
Its too bad, because HDMI is a really nice connection. But HDCP is just ass. I hope Sony can do something with the firmware to alleviate the issue on these sets that 'blink'.
Re:The Dark Side? (Score:3, Informative)
But as for the other 99.999% of the population who will be screwed by it...We're out of luck.
-Eric
It's a known bug in the Westinghouse TV firmware. (Score:5, Informative)
Btw, why is a TV firmware bug in the games section? (or even on Slashdot at all?) The summary even mentions that it happens between the Westinghouse TV and cable boxes and other devices.
Re:Why not just use DVI instead of HDMI (Score:2, Informative)
Re:news flash: cheap product has problems (Score:3, Informative)
Westinghouse models are cheap as dirt (comparatively). Their picture quality also seemed more washed out and less crisp than other higher priced models. (i.e. most other models)
I ended up getting the Samsung LN-S3251D (of course its in the 32" range, so it only goes to 720p).
Its not quite as cheap as the Westinghouse (still half the price of the high-end models in the same price range, for comparable quality and lots of inputs)
Its been solid, reliable, and I haven't had any issues connecting a PS3 or HD-DVR to it via HDMI (like I said, lots of inputs, heck, even my VCR tapes look good on it
I'd highly recommend it.
Its like buying CPUs, you don't always need the "top of the line" (since the price jumps so much), but you don't want the bottom of the barrel either.
Re:why so onerous, technology? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:news flash: cheap product has problems (Score:3, Informative)
It turns out that the version of it released in the first 2 months had a chipset in it that didn't comply with some specification... so it can't simply be flashed.
HOWEVER, though getting an actual RMA number took a while, the process was very friendly and customer service was helpful. They're even sending me a new box so I can get my new version.
Sadly, some abusers of the system made them change their rules about sending out a new one before they receive your return, so I'll be without 720p version of TigerWoods 07 for a week... but it'll be worth it. It'll be nice to actually see movies in 1080p, instead of the 1080i I'm forced into right now.
I hear that in the meantime I can push component out at 1080p, since none of the movies require HDCP for it yet... and worry about HDMI when the new one comes.