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Sony May Be Planning 80GB PS3 107

Posted by Zonk from the convenient-leak dept.
narramissic writes "Included in a filing made by Sony to the U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) earlier this month regarding a change to the PlayStation 3's Bluetooth module is notification of a new PS3 game console with a higher-capacity hard-disk drive. From the cover letter: 'The model CECHE01 to be added by the difference of the capacity of hard disk.' It then says the new model will have an 80G-byte drive. Of course, Sony is downplaying these rumours, saying that 'Application to the FCC has been made with various possibilities in mind, however, it does not lead to a new product announcement at this time.'
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Sony May Be Planning 80GB PS3

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  • Nothing New (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:27PM (#18529727)
    People have been upgrading their HDDs on the PS3 since the day it came out. The HDD on the PS3 is user-replaceable so you can swap it with any 2.5 inch SATA drive you want. I personally swapped my 20GB drive for a 120GB 7.2K drive.

  • Price War (Score:5, Funny)

    by HappySqurriel ( 1010623 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:28PM (#18529743)
    Obviously ...

    After Microsoft announced an increase in the price of the price of the XBox 360, Sony decided to get into a price war with Microsoft so they're releasing a $679 Super-Duper PS3. Nintendo, obviously being the odd ball out of the three, refuses to get into this type of a price war.

    • Re:Price War (Score:5, Funny)

      by GrayCalx ( 597428 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:57PM (#18530141)
      Hehehe you nailed it.

      inside Sony HQ

      Exec 1 : "Microsoft released a more expensive console. It costs only $20 less than our low-end system!!!"
      Exec 2 : "$20? Unacceptable... add a larger hard drive tack on another $100 to the price! We'll show them who's console costs more. ... Smug bastards."

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by nigel_q ( 523775 )
      That's just because Nintendo doesn't have the stock to get into a price-war with...
  • will there be five PlayStation 3s now? 20 Gig PS3 with and without PS2 hardware. 60 Gig PS3 with and without PS2 hardware. 80 Gig PS3 without PS2 hardware.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      What?

      The only difference between the 499 and 599 PS3 is the drive space, card reader, and Wifi. Otherwise they are exactly the same machine.

      The newer PAL PS3s still have PS2 hardware inside. The EE half of the EE/RS combo has been moved to software emulation. All PS3s will soon move to EE software emulation with the PS2 RS still included.

      Regardless, nice try at trying to spin this future minor drive upgrade as some 'bewildering and frustrating explosion of PS3 models'.

      • Re:so is this the FIFTH version of the PS3? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Kuukai ( 865890 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @01:01PM (#18530207) Journal

        Regardless, nice try at trying to spin this future minor drive upgrade as some 'bewildering and frustrating explosion of PS3 models'.
        Especially since it's extremely common anyway. The PS2 had a huge number of revisions and most people never noticed until it shrank. If you're gonna criticize them, criticize them for not having more versions, such as a harddrive-less one. That said, hardware-wise I think there are officially four versions now excluding region crap. CECHA (the original 20GB hardware), CECHB (the original 60GB hardware), CECHC (the emu one), and now CECHE. If CECHD exists, anyone know what the hell it is?

  • What's the point? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by CastrTroy ( 595695 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:31PM (#18529779)
    What's the point of the big hard drives on the XBox 360 and PS3? Are people really downloading that much content that they need 120/80 GB drives? Are downloaded movies really that popular? Why would you rather download a game then get the a DVD? I really don't see any need for a drive of this size on a console. For me it just seems like something that would drive up the cost on an already expensive product.

    • Re: (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I have on my PS3:

      Multiple 500+ meg demos
      Large game caches to accelerate game loading
      Downloaded movies - about 700 megs to 1.5 gig each
      A bunch of music and audio files
      A 10 gig Linux partition

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by BarneyL ( 578636 )
      It's not that hard to fill that much space.
      Say I have 200 CDs and I want them on a PS3 (it is a "digital hub" after all) and I want them compressed without loss. There goes a big chunk right away.
      Perhaps I download a few films, or more likely tv episodes if the likes of Battlestar Galactica get iTunes speed releases, 25 episodes all in HD would take a big chunk too.
      As this is /. I need a chunk for all my Linux applications.
      Throw in a few games (the parent makes the mistake of assuming that all games wil
    • Yeah... I'm thinking maybe you don't own a 360? I have one, I'm a very casual gamer, 4-6 hours a week maybe... probably less. And I have 10 gigs of my 20gig hard drive filled. Demos, Xbox Live Arcade Games, and a few trailers (300, Fountain) in 720p, it all adds up. I don't think I'll need a new hard drive for awhile and hopefully I'll be able to clean up some space in the future, but unfortunately they do all add up.

    • It's about the video. (Score:3, Informative)

      by LWATCDR ( 28044 )
      They want you to use the game console as media center. They want you to buy video and music from their online stores.
      Frankly I still don't understand why you can not take video from the 360 and put it on your Zune.
      Microsoft and Sony see the console as a way to get into the living room and replace TV. Nintendo sees consoles as way to play games.
      I keep wondering when Sony is going to let you take video from the PS/3 and put it on your PSP.
      It seem logical the PS/3, 360, Zune, and PSP all have wifi seems like a

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by benzapp ( 464105 )
        I keep wondering when Sony is going to let you take video from the PS/3 and put it on your PSP.

        You can already do this.
        • Yep, there's multiple ways to transfer to your PSP - memory card if you have the 60gb SKU, and via Remote Play (although it won't transfer to your actual PSP, it just will play). I do find the Remote Play kind of annoying though - the PSP uses so much battery with the WiFi built in that I don't think it would last two hours if I tried to watch a movie. Has anyone found a solution or had a problem with this?

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by LWATCDR ( 28044 )
          I didn't know that. Well Sony is a step ahead of Microsoft then. I fear that Microsoft greed is stopping them in this case. They want to sell you Windows Media Center, a 360, and a Zune. Sony is happy just selling you a PS3 and a PSP.
          The next question is will Sony or Microsoft be the first to let you add an external HD for content? I know that you can put an External HD on the 360 but the 360 will not use it for content yet. A PVR/Hardrive add on plus the ability to sync the Zune could be very interesting.
          • The next question is will Sony or Microsoft be the first to let you add an external HD for content?
            Sony already does sort of. You can hook up a USB external and mount it as a linux disc or you can just add a SATA HD to the machine since the HD is upgradable. You can go from 60 to 240 easily.
          • Comment removed based on user account deletion

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        "Nintendo sees consoles as way to play games."

        And, you know, make and dress up virtual dolls. Check the weather, vote on stuff. Browse the web. Leave messages for people. All that entirely gameplay oriented stuff. (sarcarm off)

        There are NO purely game-playing consoles any more. Even the GBA has an optional MP3 player, and there have been non-interactive cartoons (Cartoon Network stuff) released as GBA carts, effectively making it a video player. The DS has pictochat built in and an optional web browser and

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by LWATCDR ( 28044 )
          But it is games that drive the console. The other stuff is just nice to have for the Nintendo set. I admint that I can hardly wait to get Opera for my DS.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by yoyhed ( 651244 )

            I admint that I can hardly wait to get Opera for my DS
            Get used to waiting if you're going to use the DS web browser.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by insanius ( 1058584 )
      The point of a bigger hard drive is more space to hold data. Shouldn't have had to answer that...

      Yes, people really are downloading that much content.

      Yes, downloaded movies really are that popular and its not that surprising why when you think about it. I like many 360 owners have a HDTV, but I, like most, do not have the HD-DVD add-on or a stand alone player. Therefore the only ways currently for me and many others to watch a high-def movie on my high-def tv is to:
      a) catch one on cable when its

    • Point (Score:5, Informative)

      by ObiWanStevobi ( 1030352 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @01:00PM (#18530185) Journal

      Xbox offers game demos at ~1 Gig each. They have an impressive & growing library of TV shows, Game & Movie Previews, and movies you can download as well. Much of it is offered in high def. High def video takes up some major disk space. I had 20 gigs filled on the Xbox very quickly. Since I don't have any hi def cable or disk drive, I'd like to download certain things just to check it out. However, I can't because I'd have to delete a bunch of stuff I don't want to.

      The PS3 allows you to add any media you want to it. You can rip DVDs on the computer and put them right on the drive. (Xbox isn't as easy) Fills up pretty fast.

      Also, the hard drive isn't exactly a very expensive part of the machine, no need to skimp on that, especially since a larger drive encourages users to download premium content.

    • you can install liunx on the ps3 and also you can put any HD in it unlike the xbox.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by fitten ( 521191 )
      Well... I imagine Microsoft will announce a partnership with NetFlix or someone for streaming movies pretty soon. Plus, Microsoft may merge the XBox360 with the cable box and a DVR before long and, through various cable companies, offer that as a cable company provided box/service (much like now how you can get a 'regular' cable box, a digital one, and/or a DVR for a low monthly rate type deal).

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by amuro98 ( 461673 )
      The 360's HDD can be used to store music (replace the soundtrack of your games with YOUR music), as well as storing content you download from Microsoft's online service. This includes movie trailers, game demos, bonus content for games (levels, items, patches, etc.) as well as full games. These games, however, are not available on DVD. Notable releases include the TMNT arcade game, Street Fighter 2 (now with online play), Worms (now in HD), as well as the very popular Geometry Wars.

      And that's even before

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by yoyhed ( 651244 )
        Don't forget the amazing Marble Blast Ultra! I'm mildly ashamed to admit it (mostly because of the price of the 360), but I'm more excited about getting a 360 for that game than for all the others I'll hopefully eventually have on it (Geometry Wars, Castlevania SotN, Oblivion, Gears of War, Halo 3, GTA IV, Metal Gear Solid 4, DOA 4)...

  • PS3 Drives Easily Upgradeable (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    The PS3 is designed to easily upgrade the harddrive so this really isn't news. You can put any laptop drive you buy in the machine. I believe someone already has a 500 gig PS3.

    Very cool.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by nuzak ( 959558 )
      > You can put any laptop drive you buy in the machine

      Without voiding the warranty? I don't have the same degree of faith in the hardware's longevity as the average hardware hacker, so I'd rather not be out six benjamins when the fan dies on one of these things.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Yes, without voiding the warranty.

        Right on the main Sony PS3 overview page it shows where you can upgrade the harddrive. Sony execs have been talking about user upgradeable harddrives since the PS3 was first introduced.

        The PS3's power supply is designed to handle larger harddrives - that's why there have been these erroneous power draw reports for the system because people see the max power draw for the system and assume that is what the 20 and 60 gig standard models draw. The PS3 is right aroudn 190w when

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by LKM ( 227954 )

          Right on the main Sony PS3 overview page it shows where you can upgrade the harddrive. Sony execs have been talking about user upgradeable harddrives since the PS3 was first introduced.

          Link? I can't find it. I'm especially interested in finding out how to move my current data to a new drive...

  • Currently, most HD manufacturers seem to be making single platters hold well more than 100 gigs per, so my question is if (and if so, how?) Sony saves any money using a 60 gig HD (or 80) versus most anything else as long as they stick with a single-platter HD?

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by desenz ( 687520 )
      I might be off a bit here, but I'm pretty sure the PS3 uses 2.5" HDDs. The current limit on those is somewhere around the 80GB per platter region(With that fancy Perpendicular recording stuff).
  • Because nobody will ever need more than 80GB.

    Seriously, can't they just put the base OS in flash and put a small removable drive on the box? That way if I wanted 80 I could buy 80, if I wanted bigger, I could buy bigger.
    • With the USB ports can't you just buy an external drive and plug it in? I thought I read somewhere the 360 can do this (I have one but dont have an external drive to test this). I would think it would be easier to include a default size HD and then if you want more go buy whatever you want and plug it in.
      • The 360 can, but it has to be FAT formatted, so something like partition magic comes in handy if you want a big external. I don't get why it can't use NTFS, but I guess they were just thinking thumbdrives. I would expect to see a system update support it, now that marketplace is a big deal.

        I have a 250 gig iomega drive attached to mine, full of mp3s and wmv's. It works fine. The PS3s drive is user replacable/upgradable.

        I like that the 360 can operate (play games, thats what I bought it for - convergence

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by Mongoose ( 8480 )
      Hello, I'm curious if you're a fanboy troll or just repeat stupid things you hear that aren't true. You can swap out off the shelf drives in your PS3 since launch. Many people buy a '20GB' model and have put 120GB drives and larger in without a hitch. In the words of 4chan your troll is an 'epic failure'.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by Coraon ( 1080675 )
      ah, but Bill also said that about 640k my friend... personaly I think I would want the biggist HDD possible I mean when th mod chips become viable...and in canada its legal to mod your electronics...

  • New 80gb HD (Score:1, Insightful)

    by savage1r ( 856578 )
    If I want one I'll spend $60 http://www.memorylabs.net/fumh2nbhdd80.html [memorylabs.net] , thanks tho sony.
  • Why not a 220Gig ! Be the number on or close your door !

  • PS3 wasn't expensive enough! (Score:5, Funny)

    by techstar25 ( 556988 ) <techstar25 AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:42PM (#18529959) Journal
    The Wii is selling like hotcakes due to it's lower price.
    Analysts are saying that the PS3 needs a price drop.
    So how do Sony and MS respond to this? By releasing a MORE EXPENSIVE VERSION of their existing consoles.
    • This shows that apparently they just don't get it. They think they have to sell the most powerful machine ever to make money, when they should really try to be selling something that people can afford. People don't want to spend all their money on video games. Those that do are buying PC gaming rigs and don't have any money left over for consoles.
      • They are combining more chips and trying to make a more efficient circuit board (65nm cell announcement, the fact that now the number of ps3 components have been halved from 4,000 components to 2,000). During launch a few months ago the ps3 cost $300 more to manufacture then they sold it for (not to mention cost of boxing, shipping, advertising).

        Price is at the top of their concerns but they can't just downgrade the current components or subsidize it further. They are just going to need more time for a pr
        • They can get out of a hole? They still haven't gotten out of the hole that is the PS2. Sure they sell the slims for a profit now, but theres all those years they lost selling PS2s for less than it cost them to put them into customer's hands. Sony & MS are both out of their flipping minds. In a different industry, with just a little more transparency to the shareholders, this kind of business practice could never be going on. At the rate Sony & MS are going, the industry is going to be a fairly messe

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by abigor ( 540274 )
            Your "analysis" of Sony is completely incorrect. Strangely enough, they are the mega-corp, and you are a Slashdot poster. I wonder who knows more about making money.
          • What's wrong with Nintendo being the only game in town? What bad console have they put out? NES Rocked, SNES Rocked, N64 Rocked, Gamecube rocked, Wii Rocked. I've heard lots of complaints about N64 not using optical media, but that was pretty good trade off compared to the loading times on the Playstation. Call me a fanboy if you want, but I fail to see what was so bad about any of the Nintendo consoles. At least they are built well, and don't die after a year of use.

            • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

              by king-manic ( 409855 )
              When any one company corners the market they tend to do things like draconian licencing schemes, bloatware, price fixing, etc... one company in control is ever a good idea. Ideally I'd liek to see a 2 way tie for first with Sony/Nintendo and the 360 a distant third. Because we know Ninty is evil when dominant, we know Ms is evil all the time, and Sony is like your drunk uncle with tourettes, not so much evil as beligerent and puzzingly self defeating.
            • "At least they are built well, and don't die after a year of use" Remember the NES and how you'd have to blow in the cartridge, or how you had to hold the reset button down for 20 seconds and recite "Nintendo rules" out loud 15 times before the game would work?......My point is, not company makes "bullet proof" consoles that do not fail.....not ANY ONE company. True, some consoles are built better than others, and others have a better track record when it comes to reliability, nobody is exempt from hard w
              • You do know blowing into NES carts did nothing right? It was the oxidation of the copper contact pins inside the NES that caused the problems. The inserting, and removing of the carts did far more to break up the oxidation than blowing on the pins of the games. Thats why the top-loader NES came about. They switched to something else that doesn't oxidize the moment it touches air.
              • I found that was usually only a problem with cartridges that weren't well cared for. I always kept my cartridges in the sleeves they came in, and even bought some of those rental store cases for some of my games. I didn't have problems with too many of my games. I borrowed lots of games from friends and rented lots of games that had problems, but very rarely did I ever have problems with my own games.
            • You must not have been around for the NES & SNES. Blood, violence, any kind of vulgarity, and gore you'll find very little of. Hell, there was only one game I've ever been able to find that said that you actually "died", and it was Friday the 13th (kinda hard to say anything else). Plus their licensing was kinda screwed up to say the least. You really don't want Nintendo being able to do something like that again. The Wii is the shit, but Nintendo is better off with some good competition. Being forced t
          • They can get out of a hole? They still haven't gotten out of the hole that is the PS2.

            According to a press release several years ago the Ps2 was profitable "several months" after release. Only the Xbox and Dreamcast were known to sell at a loss for most of their lifespans. The Ps2, Wii, Gc etc.. all had profit margins soon after launch. also analsysts tend to over inflate their numbers. With vertical integration and without counting sunk costs like R&D the Ps2 was easily profitable. The Ps3 is likely th

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by Nazmun ( 590998 )
              Mod parent up, the ps2 was definately profitable. They sold the hardware for a slim profit after the first million ps2's were sold. The games and accessories made the profitability of the gaming division excellent by all reports.

              I do disagree onthe ps3 though, they've never taken such a hit with the ps2 or psx on hardware costs plus sales are weaker then the ps2. I wouldn't call it the same situation.
    • To paraphrase good ol' Ken: Suck it up and work more!

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by rlp ( 11898 )
      > Analysts are saying that the PS3 needs a price drop.
      > So how do Sony and MS respond to this? By releasing
      > a MORE EXPENSIVE VERSION of their existing consoles.

      Sony currently sells a 20 GB and 60 GB model. The 60 GB version
      is outselling the 20 GB by a considerable margin. Admittedly Sony
      has limited themselves to the hard-core gamer niche market. But their
      action makes sense in terms of that market segment.
    • Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
    • Theres a fairly good chance that by the time the 80 gig drives come out there won't be any issue making such drives using one platter and the cost difference between the 60 gig and 80 gig drive will be minimal if any. Thus it may nto be any more expensive then the 60 gig models.

      Currently the cost of manufacturing a 40 gig 3.5inch drive and 120 gig 3.5inch drive using one platter is almost the same. The ps3 does infact use a 2.5inch drive and i'm not quite so sure how big the platters on such a drive is bu
    • I'm so glad you created a troll thread for everyone else to throw in. Where in the article does it say they're increasing the price of the PS3? Only the 360's price is going up; this hasn't even been announced yet by Sony, let alone any pricing details released.

  • That's nice, Sony (Score:4, Insightful)

    by J. T. MacLeod ( 111094 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:44PM (#18529975)
    Call me when you have a scaler, though.

  • This is great... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by donglekey ( 124433 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:46PM (#18529999) Homepage
    Because when people consider a PS3, they think to themselves, hmm, I just don't feel like they've packed enough shit in there already.

  • Why not from the get-go? (Score:4, Informative)

    by ObiWanStevobi ( 1030352 ) on Thursday March 29, 2007 @12:50PM (#18530059) Journal

    This goes for both Sony and MS. Both machines are not only game consoles, but hi-def multi-media machines as well. Why in the world would they skimp on hard drive space to begin with. MS should be truly ashamed. You can't even find a 20 gig HDD anymore. They just aren't functional. And out of all the system components, the hard drive is one of the cheapest parts. It is especially bad considering that MS has a huge lineup of downloadable media and demos that are at minimum 250 MB each. I'd say it was a horrible move for both the PS3 & Xbox not have 100Gig+ right from the start. At very least Sony started with 3X more disk space than the Xbox.

    Personally, I can't make any sense out of why either would sell with such small drives. There isn't much difference in price between to jump to a 120 Gig drive, and there isn't a shortage or lead time problem with making such a drive. All you are doing is pissing off customers and preventing people from downloading premium online content because they are out of disk space.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by tomstdenis ( 446163 )
      first, they're not buying parts from BestBuy or CompUSA. They're getting deep discounts to buy hard drives from companies using older production lines. Hence the 8GB drives for the original xbox.

      second, they can get idiots to buy the super duper upgrade piecemeal costing more.

      third, I want a wii.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Kelbear ( 870538 )
      Why?

      Because now they can charge you the extra money for the 120gb drive instead of 20gb. Sale price isn't necessarily related to costs of manufacturing. They want to sell at the most profitable price, and if that means selling at a higher price with a low difference in cost, they'll want to do just that. People who want to pay more for the 120gb will be paying the company the extra mark-up for that feature.

      Assuming I didn't already have an XBox360, if I was offered the choice of buying an Xbox360 premium or

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by amuro98 ( 461673 )
      Why not a larger HDD from day one?

      The same reason Microsoft went ahead and released a 360 that didn't even HAVE a HDD at all!

      Price. Price. Price. Price.

      It was very important to Microsoft to have their console priced lower than than Sony's. Although to be honest, I think Microsoft expected Sony to price the PS3 at $400 and $500, instead of the current $500/$600... So now Microsoft can release the 360 Elite, which adds HDMI, comes with a larger HDD AND a HDMI cable while STILL costing less than the PS3.
  • thinking that Sony did this in response to Microsoft's release of the 360 elite....Look at the date of the filing....March 2, 2007. This is not a response the the release of the 360 Elite as Sony filed this on March 2nd 2007, and the elite came out when???
    • Error - sorry meant to say, this is not a response to the release of the 360 elite.... here's a link to the filing: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/ret rieve.cgi?attachment_id=764216&native_or_pdf=pdf [fcc.gov]
    • ...and Sony couldn't have heard prior to their filing that Microsoft was planning on upping their hard drives to 120GB because of what reason?
      • You're right, you raise a good point..they certainly could have heard rumblings from MS prior to their own filing....but assuming that Sony is in a pissing contest with MS right now (at least, that is what I am assuming because it seems that way becuase some or most people on /. are posting that Sony is doing this in response to the release of the Elite) why would they release or develop a ps3 with an 80 GB hdd while MS is meanwhile rumored to be releasing a 120GB model? does it not make more sense to try
  • Jesus...

    Everyone's got the same problem: General Motors, George Bush, and now Sony. The populis screems to have less of something, and what do they do? Put out MORE and BIGGER things! It's like how GM saw a fall-off in sales of low-gas-milage vehicles, and in their struggle to keep alive, how do they respond? They put out a brand new line of HUGE SUVs! Similarly, the voters asked Bush to start pulling troups out of Iraq, and what does he do? He sends even more in! Now Sony's facing platauing sales of the PS
    • Buddha...

      Well J Paul Getty, that was quite the diatribe on Econ 101. Did you miss the part where Microsoft is putting out a 120GB black console for more money? Seems like that is NOT just like an 80GB (no mention of a price increase, btw) version of the PS3... and since Microsoft's putting the word "elite" on theirs and making it "super KEWL!" with HDMI...

      It seems odd that GM, which is making money hand over fist in the REST OF THE WORLD, isn't doing so well in the US where the legacy union and contractu

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by 7Prime ( 871679 )
        Actually, Microsoft is just as bad, you're right. I never said otherwise... I could have picked many many more companies out, those were just the first 3 that came to mind.
        • I know what you mean... I hate them all. :)

          But in my hatred, I still have room to buy some of their junk, because, well, me alone (or the slashdot readership alone) probably wouldn't make a dent in the great unwashed's hoarding of products.... :D

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by 7Prime ( 871679 )
            Of course, you're stupid if you think you can insite a boycott by just simply not buying a product. It's just a personal thing, I'll feel icky about myself if I support them. Sure, it's not going to make a dent for them, but it'll make a difference to me.
            • If we (more importantly, those who call for boycotts) actually followed through with each corporation that created a problem (or acted like a greedy, robber-baron infested ass), we'd all be living on the street (off the grid), since the depth at which corporations touch us is nearly insurmountable (sometimes scary when you think about it). The permeation of these beasts goes from everything we eat to everything we wear. From every TV show we watch to every computer site we visit we tend to lash out and fe

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's great how you tied together a shitty analogy with a rant on SUV's, George Bush, and Sony. That's pretty impressive, even by slashdot standards.
  • I hope they release it in white, and call it the Sony PlayStation 3 E-Tile. It would give my universe a sense of balance.

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