The Elevator Effect In Second Life 167
There is an good video on NPR about how real human reactions translate to the virtual world. It's interesting in view of the question posted here about rape in Second Life. The video covers a little experiment in SL where a reporter gets together with a psychologist to see if some unspoken human rules apply in the virtual world — such as staring or standing too close to someone. Perhaps surprisingly, in this world where you can be or do just about anything, you can't break these unspoken rules with impunity.
who's hurling the giant phalluses around? (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, yeah, you can, as long as you don't get caught, if you know what I mean.
Re:who's hurling the giant phalluses around? (Score:5, Insightful)
There was a paper published about it back in the 90's. I wonder if anyone can find it out there on the internet. I believe it was "social manifestations in online gaming" or something similar where they already looked at this and even in a game where you are supposed to go around killing each other, certain social rules are still followed or suffer getting punished.
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Camping, while being a viable attack vector in the real world (called a sniper) is frowned upon so much in game....
Are you suggesting that being a sniper isn't "frowned upon" in real life? It's just ok to set up somewhere with a rifle and shoot people.
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Dude, are you camping in a maternity ward with a rifle?
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Are you suggesting that being a sniper isn't "frowned upon" in real life? It's just ok to set up somewhere with a rifle and shoot people.
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I wish someone would send that paper to those cunty Horde who keep ganking me while I'm questing. To Peterjenning @ Dunemaul, may you have your
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For me, that's just because it makes it harder to click the mailbox/auctioneer.
Yes you can (Score:2, Insightful)
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If you would go and stare at some stranger in real life, it's not like he's gonna call he cops or knock you down or something (at least not with regular alcohol-levels).
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Well, to make a long story short, they started talking about some asshat in an online game they all played and after chiming in, I found out they were talking about me. Or at least a character name I used everyone in a while when I wanted to piss people off.
I don't think they knew they were talking about me because some words were pointing out that I wouldn't be having a good time if they did. The entire night i had to wonder if they knew who i was or was it just coincidence. I was usually drunk during the times I used that name so i could have done way more then i remembered. I kept thinking they were coming over to start a fight whenever I heard their voice chatting away close to me.
Anyways, I didn't sweat it much but I never went online just to piss people off after that. The chances of meeting someone from the same game without organizing it is unreal, or at least I thought. I think the only thing that grouped us together outside the game was a charity function I got roped into going to. It wasn't in my town and they weren't in their hometowns. But there we were all together from different parts of the state and had something in common without trying to know it.
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I'm in my present position because the person who interviewed me googled me.
Re:Yes you can (Score:5, Interesting)
All that studies like this prove is that if you are not close enough to punch the person in the face for their bad behaivoir or to keep them under control, fellow humanity becomes raging jerks. Something that almost all of us old farts learned a while ago.
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Anyhow, I'll stop tailgating when people stop putting bumper stickers on their cars. That's inviting tailgating, much like having written text on the chest of your T-shirt is inviting people to stare at your chest. Offline or online.
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I still do it. I hope to meet you one day.
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Driving like an asshole to stop asshole driving doesn't make sense. Trust me, I live in Massachusetts.
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I have noticed that a lot of tailgater's don't realize they are doing it. slowing down is like posting the speed limit at 9 and 1/2 miles per hours instead of 10. Is changes the routine up enough to make you take notice. After a mile or so, if they haven't passed me, they usually back off and we speed back up to the speed limit.
There have been a few rare occasio
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I've heard of people who deliberately break hard (not just tap) so that innocent drivers rear-end them and these bastards can get the car all fixed up and paid for (to condition better than before accident.) Now those deserve to be run off road.
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Uh, not me (Score:2)
I agree, and I hate tailgating too. But what you said you did, breaking suddenly and causing a crash, is extremely irresponsible, dangerous, and downright crazy. I hope you don't drive near me or anyone I love.
What I said I did? I hope you pay more attention to detail when driving than when following a /. thread and making hostile accusations at strangers. Have a second look.
Triple A advises that if someone closely tailgates you, you should slow down *very gradually* until the tailgater backs off.
Funn
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Eventually, you'll slow down to the point where, although they are still extremely close, it's no longer an unsafe following distance.
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Yeah, you die from that. Enjoy being the asshole that pisses everyone off, doesn't get anywhere any faster, and endangers their own life, all for the sake of being an asshole.
But hey, you keeps it real. TO THE EXTREME@!@!@!!!12
Newsflash (Score:2, Insightful)
Slashdot has never had a great signal to noise ratio, but it sure as hell is getting worse by the day. What a useless waste of bytes!
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Yeah, I get the same feeling here (Score:5, Funny)
I get the same feeling here: I'll post something, and then someone else will post just below me, and it'll be stuck there right next to my post FOREVER.
Freaks me out.
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Not really surprising (Score:3, Insightful)
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The online world was fairly civil until AOL got access. This is not a troll. The difference was dramatic. Kinda similar to the effect the Kennedy killing had on the country.
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To many second life articles (Score:5, Insightful)
For example, there was this article about a woman offering sex [clubsi.com] for 5000 World of Warcraft gold. It did not reach Slashdot. That ten times as funny and definitely more "interesting" than some kind of psychological experiment.
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Re:To many second life articles (Score:5, Interesting)
(leaving out that they are going to see each other again and obviously both enjoyed 'the transaction')
Now what's wrong with that?
Re:To many second life articles (Score:5, Interesting)
> Now what's wrong with that?
I didn't say there is anything "wrong" with it, I just said it was prostitution... which it is. Prostitution is perfectly legal in many countries. You can make up your own mind whether it is wrong or not.
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But if you don't make the distinction between;
[a woman who makes money in prostitution because she needs the money or drugs, or one who sells her body against her own will]
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[someone who wants virtual money to reach a goal in her hobby and would not mind to give her body to a high-ranked fellow gamer]
then your binary logical statement disturbs me.
Re:To many second life articles (Score:4, Interesting)
I interpreted it is meaning it is "nothing more [interesting] than prostitution" -- ie, there's no particularly compelling reason it would be featured on slashdot because there's no novel social or technical thing involved. Perhaps your reading is the one with unintentional bias?
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There just isn't much "new" going on in connection with World of Warcraft. Second Life has considerably more novelty, hence it gets more coverage. Even your example, the whorecraft story, may be "funny", but it isn't new or interesting at all -- does anyone really think that hasn't been going on for ages? Besides, if you're looking for "teh lulz", try Digg or Fark or Reddit instead. Sl
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The typical Slashdot user would be more excited about such an exchange working the other way around.
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Because a lot of spotty bedroom boys spend all their time there?
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I don't think you understand.... that was a person offering real sex (advertised through craigs list) in exchange for items in a virtual world.
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I'm sorry, who's this "we"?
The Elevator Effect? (Score:5, Funny)
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From my experiences... (Score:2)
The video covers a little experiment in SL where a reporter gets together with a psychologist to see if some unspoken human rules apply in the virtual world
No... And a "no" to if many people care for that either.
SL may be "special", cool or whatever, but it's still just a game with awful graphics and a lot of virtual hookers.
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Some unspoken human rules DO apply (Score:5, Funny)
Do you know how annoying it is for a ten foot tall neon pink ogre to jump up and down in front of your face and not stop until you log out?
My friends do!
Obligatory... (Score:4, Funny)
WoW (Score:2)
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Just because its virtual doesn't mean any of us b
an good video? (Score:1)
virtual condoms for sale (Score:2)
Only 5 gold a piece ; protect yourself now before you get raped
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Oh. Oh you mean when they're not virtual fucking?
Hmm... where on SL can THAT be observed?
Deja Vu (Score:2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_in_Cyberspace [wikipedia.org]
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The system was soon changed to prevent this kind of thing from having the same impact again.
Second Life doesn't have NEAR the ability to the customize and the only way this could happen was through a
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Virtual worlds don't make us different... (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd say, it's quite simple: In normal life, we chose who we are. Most people have fixed patterns which affect their behavior and therefore their daily life. Over time, these patterns get more and more restricting and make people lose their authenticity.
So, there's certainly a wish to break out, and that's what these virtual worlds promise us - but changing or breaking patterns can never be done by changing worlds. We see that every day, when people change their jobs, their partners or their homes - after all, most end up the same.
Even if there's a "Third Life" and a "Fourth Life", maybe hundreds of them, they will in the end be all the same, simply as we are who we are.
However, if we are shaken up so much, that we have to drop some patterns, or really decide to make a change, this and all other worlds will be different - instantly...
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Just on this portion of your comment.. when you look around in SL, you usually alt-mouse your camera around. You can put the cursor on another av (or object), then alt mouse to zoom there and your av does indeed look where your camera is pointed, and the eyes do properly look where y
Re:Second Life (Score:4, Insightful)
Second Life is in no danger of becoming anything bigger. It is messy, awkward to use, and has little interesting going on in it. Something more interesting might grow from the original idea (which in truth, is not all that original), but it has a long way to go before it even begins to touch the sort of mass media acceptance of games like World of Warcraft.
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Real Life is in no ganger of becoming anything bigger. It is messy, awkward to use, and has little interesting going on in it. Something more interesting might grow from the original idea (which in truth, is not all that original), but it has a long way to go
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more surreal than snowcrash (Score:3, Insightful)
The interesting thing is that SL is the only online virtual world (for want of a better term) in which inhabitants can actually make a lasting change in the world which is tangible for other players.
In There you can introduce new textures or models at an exorbitant cost and at risk of losing $$$ when your texture or model is rejected. Oh and they approve models which cannot be placed
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"It has been mentioned before many times on slashdot but it always remains worth repeating go: http://www.getafirstlife.com/ [getafirstlife.com]"
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Re:Ya know, I'd care if there was a Linux client.. (Score:3, Informative)
*shrugs* gotta love it when zealots spout off about shit they don't know about, and don't even bother to lift a finger to confirm their facts first. You're a perfect example of why most people
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Hmm.. "game"... please do tell what qualifies something to be called a game? All the games I've played had
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Well, unless you like to create, build, script.. that kind of thing... make your own games, explore cool areas, take ballon ride tours of nice areas, skydive and base jump, participate in some of the sci-fi or medieval (or etc..) rpg sims, or racing games (yeah, snail races are a blast