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Both Sides of the PS3 Price Cut Rumor 257

So here's the deal: Kotaku has a flier for an upcoming Circuit City deal on the PlayStation 3, putting the price at $499. There's some confusion about whether this is just a sale from Circuit City, or an actual price drop from Sony. Next Generation has Sony saying 'no', indicating that this isn't a sign of an across-the-board price cut. Meanwhile, GameDaily says 'yes', with sources in the retail industry indicating this is the price adjustment we've heard coming for a while now. "As it turns out, a merchandising manager (who wished to remain anonymous) at one of the world's biggest retailers has confirmed to GameDaily BIZ that the price drop is indeed retail-wide and it's scheduled to take place on July 12, although the first wave of ads to promote the PS3's new price won't kick in until Sunday, July 15. Many analysts have speculated that Sony would drop the price on the expensive console this year, and some even predicted that it could happen this summer. It's starting to look like they were right. We're sure to find out much more next week when Sony holds its press conference at E3." Luckily we won't have to wait long to see what's the real story here.
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Both Sides of the PS3 Price Cut Rumor

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  • Re:$499 (Score:3, Informative)

    by soccerace09 ( 908351 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @11:07AM (#19767641)
    The current price of the 20 Gb PS3 is $499. So if this is a price cut, it would be down $100 to make the 60 Gb $499. While it still may be more than the 360, it's hardly what I would call a "bare bone" console.
  • probably not a sale (Score:5, Informative)

    by SolusSD ( 680489 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @11:24AM (#19767913) Homepage
    I sued to work electronics retail (best buy.. ughh), anyway- there is NO markup on game consoles, places like best buy and circuit city make their money by selling games, services, and accessories for the consoles. I highly doubt circuit city is willing to take a >$100 hit on each ps3.
  • Re:$499 (Score:5, Informative)

    by Jeff DeMaagd ( 2015 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @11:29AM (#19768005) Homepage Journal
    Well... unless you really care about Blu-Ray movies (which IMO are way overpriced)

    Not really, unless you mean to say that any money more than the DVD is "overpriced". For most of the new movies I looked at, the Blu-Ray version is $5 more than the DVD version. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs aren't any more expensive than in the first few years of DVD, so I really don't think the pricing is unfair.

    Besides, you can get Blu-Ray and HD-DVD movies from Netflix for no extra cost.

    I don't regret the purchase at all.
  • by Paradox ( 13555 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @12:04PM (#19768613) Homepage Journal
    I know Sony hating has been popular on slashdot, and I like to try and separate this from the PS3. I've got years of good karma banked, so I'm going to spend 5 minutes making a list of what my PS3 does, for its price.

    • Plays PS3 games
    • Plays Blu-Ray discs.
    • Upconverting (1080i) DVD player
    • Cross platform (Win/Mac/Linux) streaming media player (H.264, MPEG2,Many AVI-contained formats)
    • Local media player (variety of flash memory cards and external hard drives)
    • Can browse the internet w/ flash support
    • Can access sonys (admitted lackluster, but definitely there) Online Store.
      • Sonys online store deals in real money, not points (which are only bought in increments which do not divide evenly into common prices).
      • Sonys online store offers PSP content if you have one (more and more people do, they are becoming quite common now)
    • Plays a variety of farily good online content, with feature titles including Calling All Cars and the recent Super Stardust HD.
    • Can play most PS2 games with excellent upscaling (looks great) (nearly all games with non-UK release)
    • Can play most PS1 games (non-UK release) (upconversion to 480p, looks about as good as youd expect from such old tech)
    • Uses standard bluetooth and USB for all peripherals. You can use your existing bluetooth headset.
    • It can run linux. It cannot access the video hardware, but thats boring anyways. The Cell processor is far more exciting.
    • 802.11b/g right out of the box. No external adaptor required.
    • While PS3 failure is not unheard of, the box has an unquestionably better reliability rate than the Xbox 360, its major competitor.


    To get an Xbox 360 that is feature competitive (elite or not), you're going to be paying within $50 of the price of the current PS3. And even then, the Xbox 360 is far less cross-platform friendly, using nonstandard technology for its media streaming and peripherals. And you'll need to spend extra money for a HD-DVD box (if that's your thing). If you're considering buying a traditional game console, the PS3 is very competitive to the XBox 360 (especially so given the troubling reliability issues with the 360, I myself am on my third which refuses to play Gears of War!)

    In comparison to the Wii, I advise you go for the Wii first unless you have a big PS2 game selection, in which case the PS3 will probably be a better value. The Wii and PS3 are both game systems, but the Wii is the interesting bargain product and the PS3 is the luxury product. This is not a representation of Wii dominance, it's a representation of supply/demand economics and how they interact with MSRPs. For many people, the Wii is a lever to get gaming into homes that aren't otherwise receptive to it. That's awesome, it's the tide that raises all the boats, and no one can deny the Wii is an interesting an innovative console. I like it, I waited overnight for mine, I endorse it.

    But right now, the Wii isn't much more atttractive a platform than the PS3, if you get fair about the comparison. It's only got three really great titles (WiiPlay, Zelda and Paper Mario) and a release schedule that's nearly as lackluster as the PS3's. It's got a lot of development difficulty (instead of wrangling the cell, you're designing for a completely new and somewhat alien control system that requires a lot of realtime analysis of multiple data streams).

    I totally understand waiting on buying a PS3. The platform only has a few really great titles right now (Motorstorm and recently the revised Ninja Gaiden Sigma), so it's entirely reasonable to wait. But to say that this $100 price drop doesn't make it competitive is just absurd and it's hater-aide. Don't buy into the anti-hype surrounding the platform.

    Disclosure: I own all 3 consoles, a high def television. I am a supporter of Blu-ray as a recordable data standard. My Wii has stayed quiet since I beat Paper Mario, my Xbox 360 (2rd replacement) has just shown hardware defects and I'm told to send it in again. I do not work or take money from any video game company or Sony. I run both mac and linux boxes in my home, so an open media streaming capability is important to me.
  • Re:Wii (Score:5, Informative)

    by AdmiralWeirdbeard ( 832807 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @12:21PM (#19768905)
    AFAIK, they're also the same company...
  • Re:$499 (Score:3, Informative)

    by CashCarSTAR ( 548853 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @01:08PM (#19769639)
    ERrrr..no

    There's only one Wii SKU in North America, and it comes with the console, remote+nunchuk and WiiSports.
  • by Dr Kool, PhD ( 173800 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @01:24PM (#19769903) Homepage Journal
    Update your firmware to 1.80 or higher. PS3 didn't ship with upconverting working, but it was released in the update a few weeks ago.
  • by Osty ( 16825 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @02:16PM (#19770645)

    Xbox 360 upscales DVDs and video files/streams to 1080i just great.

    Only if you use the VGA cable. There's no upscaling on the standard component connection. Not sure about the Elite's HDMI connection.

    It is very unfortunate that it only support streaming from Windows based computers, but that's a side effect of it being made by Microsoft.

    Not so. The Xbox 360 acts as a standard UPnP streaming media consumer. Any software that can stream music or videos to a UPnP media client can feed the 360. In Windows, that would be WMP11 or Windows Media Connect. On Mac, Connect360 [nullriver.com] works just fine. On Linux, you can use GeeXbox uShare [geexbox.org]. The 360 still mostly prefers Microsoft-specific formats (though it should do h.264 now), but as long as you have media in a format it wants it's not difficult to serve it up.

    There's no question that the PS3 has a ton more potential for new games than the Xbox 360 has. Unfortunately potential means jack and shit if you don't have the games and the features, so lets just see if they can deliver.

    I'm not sure I'd say "a ton", though the BD format does have some potential over what the 360 can provide. Technically, the 360 and the PS3 are pretty much on par, with the PS3 being just slightly more powerful and the 360 being easier/nicer to work with. The 360's biggest asset is Xbox Live, and I just don't see Sony catching up any time soon (they killed themselves last generation when they refused to define a real online strategy and just gave up the market to Xbox Live). I could see a crazy future where full retail games are delivered via Xbox Live, stored on hard drives, and swapped around with the 360's removable hard drive.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 06, 2007 @02:33PM (#19770865)
    I don't know about HD, but I can say your estimate of Netflix' BluRay inventory is completely false... I have more than 8 BR disks in my queue right now and that's a very small percentage of their selection (I just wish they'd release more Anime).

    As far as the Sony-bashing goes, I don't get it.. Most corporations suck, that's a given, but to say that Sony is any worse than others (particularly Microsoft) is just asinine. I wouldn't be surprised to find a M$-sponsored PR firm behind a number of the bashing posts.

    -jE
  • by Paradox ( 13555 ) on Friday July 06, 2007 @07:25PM (#19774675) Homepage Journal

    When I think about getting a game console, I'm only thinking about games.


    I was in the lucky position of buying the PS3 as I was building my home entertainment system. In this capacity, I saved a metric ass-ton of money. The PS3 was so crazily cheap compared to the morass of equipment to provide its functionality that it wasn't even a contest.

    The PS3 is a bad deal right now, and I'm not sure it will recover past the point where it's actually worth it to have it AND my 360. And with no games I'm certainly not going to take that bet right now.


    By this measure, the Wii is also a raw deal. Are you willing to go that route, or are you going to trust that Nintendo will suddenly flood the market with a lot more great games. Because their track record on non-handhelds hasn't been any good since like, the SNES. The backwards compatibility is not something that should be dismissed. A lot of really [atlus.com] interesting [square-enix.com] games [nisamerica.com] are still being released for the PS2 in addition to the fairly good (though very sparse) PS3 content.

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