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In Wake of Price Drops, Further PS3 Doubts 424

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from the clouding-the-issue dept.
Sony fans undoubtedly cheered the news of a $100 drop in price for the 60GB PS3, but even with the price drop there are several issues surrounding the console. 1up reports that the 80GB PS3 is following the lead of the EU-released PS3s by removing the Emotion engine and relying on software emulation for backwards compatibility. In an effort to decrease costs Sony continues to reduce features and develop their product. Meanwhile, Konami executive Kazumi Kitaue doesn't see much impact from the cut ... and in fact told Reuters that they're seriously considering a multi-platform release for Metal Gear Solid 4. "Kitaue said Konami may need to expand the target hardware for its blockbuster fighting game Metal Gear Solid, which has so far been developed for Sony's PlayStation machines, to other consoles in the future to recoup development costs ... The release of the latest version of Metal Gear Solid series is expected to help lure hard-core gamers to the PS3 and alleviate concerns over scarcity of strong PS3 titles. Underscoring sluggish PS3 sales and robust demand for the Wii, Nintendo shot past Sony in market value last month and bumped the Tokyo-based electronics conglomerate off the list of Japan's 10 most valuable companies."
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In Wake of Price Drops, Further PS3 Doubts

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  • No (Score:3, Interesting)

    by coren2000 (788204) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @01:03PM (#19815109) Journal

    Sony fans undoubtedly cheered the news of a $100 drop in price for the 60GB PS3
    No. Sony fans already bought the PS3 at the full price, those waiting for price drops will wait further.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @01:05PM (#19815135)
    Do a bit of digging for the technical specs on the PS3 and 360. You'll find that the 360's graphics hardware is in fact superior to the PS3's, and its memory architecture is more flexible.

    Developers will come to know the power of the PS3, true, but they'll also come to know its limitations. And in these days of tightening deadlines and limited budgets, it is unlikely that many developers will even complete the learning process.

    The console death spiral: gamers aren't buying, so developers hold back. Devs hold back, so gamers hold back even more. And so on...

    The PS3 has begun its descent already. It will take a lot of time, money, effort and random luck for Sony to dig it out. It's not impossible, but it's also unlikely. Good luck...
  • by LordRobin (983231) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @01:17PM (#19815317)

    So let's look at the AAA exclusives for PS3: Resistance, Motorstorm, Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Now the AAA exclusives for PS3: Zelda, Wii Sports(!?!), Wario Ware (?????).
    Note that all three of the PS3 titles listed appeal primarily to young adult males. While the Wii titles appeal to kids, older adults, and women.

    This is why Nintendo is winning this war, folks. Sony and Microsoft have narrowed their focus to the testosterone-junkie market, leaving all the little kids, old folks, and females to be served by the DS and Wii.

    My wife is the big gamer in our house. She owns almost console ever made. Yet until Ratchet & Clank comes out, there won't be anything on the PS3 to grab her attention.

    ------RM

  • Re:Lately? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by flitty (981864) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @01:52PM (#19815783)
    let me continue...
    *My Fifth(!) broken ps2
    *Minidisc
    *UMD
    *"People will work two jobs to buy a ps3"
    *Uncertain future
    *Home (seriously, wtf, go play second life)
    *Exploding batteries
    Yeah yeah yeah, now all the Sony apologists will say that Microsoft has the same problems. Yeah, and? Are you saying that we shouldn't take either of these companies to task for their crappy business practices? I won't buy a x360 until they stop getting the red ring of death, and I won't buy a ps3 until sony gives me a reason to buy the damn system. Sony HAS harmed me on several occasions (unknown rootkits, and broken ps2's, DVD's that won't play due to Copy Protection) while I haven't had a problem with MS (I avoid things like Playsforsure and Zzune, guess i've been lucky), So ME PERSONALLY, I don't trust sony from the crap I'VE experienced. I hear about the bad things MS does too, but I've never had any experience of it. My original xbox works like a charm, and still gets played frequently. I can't say that about my fried ps2.
  • by shoptroll (544006) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @03:09PM (#19816743)
    Nintendo also has a 100 year history. Think of how much money they must have sitting aside for a rainy day. Pokemon, the DS and now the Wii have pretty much solidified that they're not going away anytime soon.

    Unfortunately, Sony has been hemorrhaging money for the last few years. Remember a couple years ago when they slashed some divisions, like the AIBO group? Investor's are reacting to this, especially since the PS3 & Blu-ray were touted to be the saviors of the company.
  • by Tuidjy (321055) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @03:11PM (#19816775)
    As far as I am concerned, Sony's greatest screw up was the root kit they included on some of their CDs. I had to remove it from my parents' PC, and I decided that I will avoid buying anything with their brand. I own a PS2, and my stereo is a Sony, but I have not spend a dime on their products in a long, long time. Once Virtua Fighter stopped being an exclusive, I knew I was going to be able to stick to my "boycott".
  • by Doomstalk (629173) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @03:48PM (#19817195)
    1) I have a 1080p screen and at that resolution the PS3's graphics are much better.

    Define "much better". That term is pretty ambiguous as given, especially considering that both consoles support 1080p.

    2) If you play online games the PS3 is much cheaper over several years.

    This is somewhat true, but I wouldn't consider Sony's service to be comparable. Xbox Live is, for now, just a better experience and worth the money.

    3) Cross platform games are better on the PS3.

    Again, you're way too ambiguous. How are they better? Do they have better graphics? Do the controls feel better? From what I've seen of comparisons, the Xbox 360 has actually come out ahead in terms of image quality with games like Armored Core 4. And, D-pad aside, I don't see how anyone can call the SIXAXIS a better controller than the 360's. The analog sticks have about as much tension as a narcoleptic on muscle relaxants, the analog triggers feel like mush and have no travel, and the controller itself has no heft.

    4) PS3 games have much more to work with aka a HDD, more processing power etc.

    The HDD statement is true, but the comment about processing power is disingenuous. They're both running at comparable clock speeds using a similar architecture. The major difference is that the PS3 has its power distributed over more cores, which can be as much of a liability as an advantage-- thread management becomes more difficult; and because some of the cores aren't general purpose, you can't necessarily take advantage of all the CPU cycles available to you. Then there's the RAM architectures: the PS3 and the 360 have the same amount of RAM, but on the PS3 CPU and GPU memory segregated; whereas on the 360 they use a shared pool. This has a couple of potential advantages: the developer has the ability to allocate RAM in a manner that best suits their game, and the CPU can directly affect texture memory for things like procedural generation.

    6) Up scaling DVD's

    The 360 does this when connected via VGA or HDMI.

    9) The PS3 has a longer lifespan.

    That's a mighty nice crystal ball you have there, sir. Do you read palms too?
  • by ivan256 (17499) on Tuesday July 10, 2007 @06:12PM (#19819015)
    The thing about the Wii online catalog is that I own most of those games already for my Genesis, TurboGrafix16, SNES, etc, and I even already own re-releases for many of them in GameCube form that works just fine in my Wii. The PS3 has original and semi-original downloadable content that is actually pretty good. fl0w, GripShift, Stardust, GoPuzzle!, Super Rub-a-dub.... I can't remember the whole list off the top of my head.

    I'm sure that Nintendo will have some Wii original offerings in their store eventually, but right now they've got none.

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