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Retail Ads Hint At $50 360 Price Cut 113

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Following closely on the heels of Sony's $100 cut in price for the PlayStation 3, retail ads seem to indicate an upcoming $50 price drop for the Xbox 360. Gamespot investigates the rumour: "It's clear that a number of retailers are expecting an Xbox 360 price cut next week, so much so that they're willing to buy print advertising for it. If that's the case, Microsoft almost certainly told them to expect a price cut, and when it would be fine to start promoting it. When Microsoft actually decides to announce it remains to be seen, although sources close to the software giant are grousing through back channels that the discounting's cover has already been blown." This comes right on time for the annual release of Madden, Bioshock, and Blue Dragon.
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Retail Ads Hint At $50 360 Price Cut

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  • I'd pay $50 more if it meant I didn't have to send my console back for repair every four months. The RRoD rate for 360s is ridiculous.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I'd pay $50 more if it meant I didn't have to send my console back for repair every four months. The RRoD rate for 360s is ridiculous.

      They've had eyes on a subscription model for software for some time, perhaps this is their entry into doing it for hardware

    • by MBraynard (653724)
      The revisions you are likely to find on the shelf will not have this problem.
  • Exactly when Duke nukem forever is released.
  • by Brian Gordon (987471) on Tuesday July 31, 2007 @03:19PM (#20061655)
    Who thought "$50,360 price cut? I didn't think it was that expensive"?
  • Two separate stores, so it looks legit, but the price drop is only on the Premium, not the Elite.
    • by I'll Provide The War (1045190) on Tuesday July 31, 2007 @03:26PM (#20061729)
      http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17603 0 [neogaf.com]

      The Core gets a $20 cut and the Elite is reduced by $30.

    • by powerlord (28156)
      Okay, you've covered the Premium and Elite. What about the Core, "Halo 3 Edition" and the "Simpsons Movie Edition"?

      Almost as complex as a product matrix as Vista. Is it any wonder the Wii is selling more?

      Heck, even the PlayStation only has two models (at most), for sale at any one time, and the only difference between them now is native hard-drive space.
      • Don't forget the playstation 2 is still for sale (and doing quite well).
      • by Applekid (993327)
        Not sure about those special editions, but the Core is set to get a $20 price cut.
      • by Osty (16825)

        Okay, you've covered the Premium and Elite. What about the Core, "Halo 3 Edition" and the "Simpsons Movie Edition"?

        What about them? Nobody buys a Core except to replace a broken Premium where they already have the hard drive, wireless controller, component video cable, etc. The Halo 3 edition is not out yet, and the Simpsons Movie edition is not available for purchase in stores. That leaves us with the Premium and the Elite. The choice between the two is pretty simple -- if you don't know or care why t

  • by suv4x4 (956391) on Tuesday July 31, 2007 @03:29PM (#20061805)
    So it'll drop from $400 to 350? I can't believe they aren't taking the opportunity to sell it for $360.

    "XBox 360 - for $360"

    niiiiiiceee....
    • by GrayCalx (597428)
      niiiiiiceee....

      God help me I laughed out loud at that. Bravo sir... bravo.
  • by Pojut (1027544) on Tuesday July 31, 2007 @03:31PM (#20061823) Homepage
    I know I know I know, "The 360 self destructs! The numbers don't lie!"

    True, but I think people exaggerate them a bit...I myself own 4 different 360's, and know of no less than 30 people that own at least one...out of everyone I know that has had one, only two people have gotten the ring (one of which is me)

    My one RRoD came after I cracked the case open on one of them to clean out the dust...unbeknown to me at the time, I had accidently loosened two of the CPU heatsink screws a half-turn, and within 2 hours I had the rings...the other 3 that I own have never had an issue. THe only friend I know that has had an RRoD had one on a launch unit.

    I'm not saying it's not a real problem. I'm saying people have exaggerated it a bit. (yes, I am aware that my 30 friends hardly constitute the entirety of the market, but those friends know people and those people know people and so on)

    Basically, what I am getting at is don't balk at buying a 360 simply because of all the red ring talk...I own all three next gen systems and my 360 by FAR gets the most play time out of the three (not to mention IMO the 360 has the largest lineup of exciting games on the horizon)
    • I think it's related to how defective units bunch up. It might be the 360's are less resistant to jostling due to how it was designed and it's heating issues. So a little violence on the way to the store and you have a eventually defective unit. Since they bunch up it may be that some groups are exposed to it more then others. So while in my social group we're 5/5 for defective 360's you may only be 2/30.

      In either case the exact failrue rate is undisclosed but speculated to be high.
      • by ThosLives (686517)

        2 failures in 30 opportunities is a tragically bad failure rate. Even one failure in 30 is tragically bad. 1 failure in 30 is no better than a failure rate of 1 in 10 to a 95% confidence (if actual defect rate is 1 in 10, odds of 1 failure in 30 chances is 95%). If the actual defect rate is one in 100, the odds of one failure in 30 chances is only 26%.

        So, even though you think 1 in 30 is "good", it's horrendously bad. What you want is a real defect rate of around 1 per 10,000 or so, which would only have

        • by Pojut (1027544)
          Not saying it isn't bad, I'm saying it's sporatic... I have seen people on here claim that every person they know with a 360 has had to return it at least once, and then there are others (such as myself) that barely know anyone with any issues. Hence the phrase "sporatic".

          Ironically, those that tend to have issues themselves tend to have friends that also have issues with the 360...as others have mentioned, this is likely due to "bad batches"
          • Not saying it isn't bad, I'm saying it's sporatic... I have seen people on here claim that every person they know with a 360 has had to return it at least once, and then there are others (such as myself) that barely know anyone with any issues. Hence the phrase "sporatic".

            Ironically, those that tend to have issues themselves tend to have friends that also have issues with the 360...as others have mentioned, this is likely due to "bad batches"


            The PS2 was said to have a bad fail rate but the only one I saw "f
    • by whodunnit (238223)
      Well, I must just have really crappy luck then.

      I keep my 360's isolated on their own table, power brick on the cool tile floor. And yet I'm on my 4th one. First 2 died from RRoD (day of purchace, and then 8 months later), Third one died of a dead DVD drive.

      I play a lot of games, and watched a lot of DvD's on the last one. But in any case, a $400 piece of hardware should not fail this often.

      OH, and BTW each of my consoles that died were returned to BB for a brand new one, so I'm not talking about refurbish
      • by Pojut (1027544)
        4 of them...two are modified, two are not. one modified and one "vanilla" console are at my place, and the other modified/vanilla mix are at the ladyfiend's place.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Back before the spring update that allowed the unit to download in a low power state, there were two separate instances where I'd queue up a big demo, turn off the TV and receiver, and leave; only to find when I got home, that my wife, while cleaning up, had closed the doors to the entertainment center, leaving the 360 running, on full tilt, in a fully enclosed space about, oh, maybe two to three times the size of the 360 itself, with naught but a three-inch-diameter cable hole in the back for ventilation.

    • by GregPK (991973)
      If it weren't for a non disclosure agreement I could show you an excel file that shows every single console in the retail stores replaced at least once since launch. Some stores have had it replace 5 times or more.

      Granted though, its retail, more dust, more problems. Though the number one problem is still the same as the first generation. Dirty disc reader.
  • Price drop, that's nice, but it's not why I'm waiting. What I want to know is, how do I know for sure whether the units shipping (and the one in the store I'm getting) has the new 65nm chip? Less power consumption means less heat and less Red Rings. I know whatever I get will be warranteed anyway, but I don't feel like sending mine back.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by hudsonhawk (148194)
      You can be 100% positive about whether or not they will have it, seeing as they haven't made a single 360 with that process yet.

      For when they do, you can view the manufacturing date of the console by flipping up the little cardboard flap on the side of the box.
      • by nuzak (959558)
        Thanks for the pointer. I decided I may as well just get one now since it might be next quarter til the new process actually hits the shelves, so I went out and grabbed an Elite last night. From an ebGames that sells out of 'em weekly, so I should imagine they at least have the extra heatsinks. That thing sure is a space heater.

        And boy howdy is the DVD drive on that thing loud as sin too. I wish games would buffer more, or actually install to the HDD. Can't stuff it in a cabinet either, too hot (yeah I
  • Now I can get a second 360 and let the kids take over the first one. All I have to do is to verify somehow that I will get one of the 65nm designs. My wife forced me into doing this when she got suckered into pre-ordering Halo 3. For some reason, she ordered two copies...

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