Crytek Considers Leaving Germany Over Game Law 124
Heise is reporting that the largest German game developer and makers of the much-anticipated upcoming title Crysis, Crytek, are considering leaving the country in anticipation of a new restrictive law. "The Conference of Interior Ministers (IMK) of the countries had unanimously decided on a production and distribution ban for violent computer games for the first time in the end of May. The responsible Federal Ministry of Family Affairs is presently working on a less drastic draft of a law for the protection of children and youth. Instead of only the previous 'violence glorifying' games, also the 'violence dominated' games should be indexed by the Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons (BPjM) in the future. These may then no longer be advertised and sold to youths."
Piss people off enough and they move (Score:5, Insightful)
I have empathy for the Germans, but, let it happen. Let the gaming entertainment industry leave. Let the nanny-state take over. Then pay attention as crime doesn't go down, as youths don't magically become better adjusted, as tax receipts go down due to industry lost.
Look how long it took for Prohibition in the US to be tossed out the window. Look at what the War on Drugs STILL hasn't managed to succeed in. And, compared to gaming, these two examples are MUCH more important.
Unfortunately par for the course (Score:2, Insightful)
Parental responsibility, anyone? (Score:5, Insightful)
Isn't that what parents are for?
Parents should know their kids and what their kids are doing.
Outlawing lazy/ignorant parents, I think, would be much more productive than banning video games and porn.
Re:Piss people off enough and they move (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:This should not exist anywhere (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe I was a bit too surprised when a close relative of mine in Germany first nonchalantly said something like "oh, here everyone's slept with everybody" w.r.t. her school... it's like, thanks but I didn't really need to hear it from you T_T
Re:Piss people off enough and they move (Score:4, Insightful)
Agreed. However...
I have empathy for the Germans, but, let it happen. ... Then pay attention as crime doesn't go down, as youths don't magically become better adjusted, as tax receipts go down due to industry lost.
Ahh, yeah, right. Tax receipts will go down over this? Not likely, at least not in any measureable way.
Look how long it took for Prohibition in the US to be tossed out the window. Look at what the War on Drugs STILL hasn't managed to succeed in. And, compared to gaming, these two examples are MUCH more important.
Prohibition got tossed 'cause mainstream, voting Americans made it happen. The "war on drugs" isn't getting anywhere 'cause mainstream, voting Americans... don't really care about it. Gaming? Not even on the radar...
Re:Parental responsibility, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
Isn't that what parents are for?
Parents should know their kids and what their kids are doing.
You realize the same argument can be made against child molestation laws, right? I'm not trying to compare the two, just saying that you should modify your argument a bit
Re:This should not exist anywhere (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Parental responsibility, anyone? (Score:3, Insightful)
The guberment needs to raise your kids because it takes a village and even if it doesn't, they can.
Re:This should not exist anywhere (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:This should not exist anywhere (Score:3, Insightful)
Say what you will about the US, but that Bill of Rights is a mighty fine thing to have. It certainly has been eroded over time, but it did just fine smacking down another handful of anti-video game laws this year.
Personally, I find Germany a nice to place visit, but considering the crap going on there, I wouldn't want to live there.
Re:This should not exist anywhere (Score:3, Insightful)
False premises, false logic, false conclusion (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm sure you wouldn't like to see explosives manufacturers (for example) targeting your 8-year-old kids. Buy a stick of dynamite, throw it at your friends, it'll be a blast! (add footage of cartoon character covered in soot, but still in one piece, and then everbody laughs).
Likewise, some people think that certain kinds of games (or certain kinds of movies, powertools, guns, junk food, industrial chemicals, cigarettes, liquor, etc.) should not be advertised or sold directly to children. It's a crazy notion, I know...
Your talk about "banning videogames" suggests that you don't know what this law says, and didn't even bother to RTFA (in fact, it looks like you didn't even read the fucking summary, let alone the fucking article). The law doesn't "ban" any games and doesn't even forbid children from playing those games. All it says is that the games can't be advertised or sold directly to children. If your kids want to play it, they can simply ask you to buy it for them.
So you see, this law is exactly what you were asking for: it "outlaws ignorant parents" by making sure they are informed, and forces them to make a conscious decision.
What Crytek is doing here is called "getting free publicity". Their "threat to leave the country" is nonsensical, for two reasons:
1. The place where the game is developed makes no difference; the law applies to all games marketed and sold in Germany. They could move to Mars and that wouldn't make any difference.
2. All this law does is force kids to buy the games through their parents. Is Crytek's target market "kids who buy and play games without telling their parents"? Even if it is (which I find hard to believe), there's still #1.
Re:Unfortunately par for the course (Score:3, Insightful)