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Sony Still Not Happy With 'Home' 92

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1up is reporting on comments made by Sony's Kaz Hirai to the Japanese magazine Famitsu. Hirai states that he personally is still not completely satisfied with the way Sony's ambitious Home project is shaping up. He also talks about the loss of the Monster Hunter franchise to the Wii, the lack of backwards compatibility in the newest version of the PS3, and other weighty holiday issues. "If anything, we believe the delay would have a positive effect. I personally am not satisfied with the current version of Home. This is a very big project for the PS3 and we want to make sure that we deliver to our hearts content. We hope everyone will look forward to its spring release next year."
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Sony Still Not Happy With 'Home'

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  • Home is where the heart is.

      And if you're not content with your home, wheres your heart gonna be?

      (Hopefully not playing the Wii)
    • by mink (266117)
      If I learned one thing from Dr. Emilio Lizardo it is that "Home is where you hang your hat.".
  • NEWS FLASH: (Score:5, Funny)

    by Perseid (660451) on Thursday November 08, 2007 @04:35PM (#21285797)
    Citizens of Home are finding their town shrouded in a mysterious vapor, causing residents to question whether or not they will ever actually exist.

    Details at 11.
    • by Gravatron (716477)
      They have had a closed eta for a while you know. IF anything, it sounds like they heard the complaints and are working to make it better. Thats pretty strange, as most companies express nothign but hype over how something is comming along.
  • Given that he's the CEO of Sony's gaming division, I guess if he's not happy he is empowered to manage and organize so that he can become happy with it. Whining to the press about it certainly won't make it better.
    • by Sciros (986030)
      Well yeah, but to be fair it's an interview with Famitsu where he's talking about what people want to hear from him, not him calling some journalist at night while sobbing with a near-empty bottle of sake in his hand. ...Perhaps you would prefer a racy photo shoot of him in the magazine, wearing that Borat "swimsuit." Actually that would be pretty funny so nevermind.
    • With your incredible insight I'm sure you can expect an invitation to the Sony board very shortly......
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by LoverOfJoy (820058)
      To be fair, it wasn't so much whining about the Playstation Home Service as it was spinning the delay. This isn't much different from Nintendo spinning their delays by saying they'd rather delay and give a good product that release on time with crap. Here's the pertinent part:

      The delay of the PlayStation Home service was also announced, will this affect the company's future strategy?

      Hirai: If anything, we believe the delay would have a positive effect. I personally am not satisfied with the current vers

  • by Petersko (564140) on Thursday November 08, 2007 @04:37PM (#21285829)
    Sony should probably be unhappy with a wide variety of PS3-related issues.

    It's great fun seeing an arrogant bully get kicked square in the nuts and fold like a cheap lawn chair, but the desire to see them fail is all out of my system now. It's important that they succeed.
    • by LWATCDR (28044)
      "It's important that they succeed."

      Why? Really why is it important to anyone but themselves that they succeed?
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Because if they fail, there's less competition.

        • by KDR_11k (778916)
          I think that's not an issue, a leader failing is an example to others.
        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          by Osty (16825)

          Because if they fail, there's less competition.

          Sega failed yet we still have three players in the console market. If Sony were to fail so horribly with the PS3 that they drop out of the market entirely, I wouldn't be surprised to see others try to enter the market in their wake. EA is probably the most likely candidate.

        • by LKM (227954)
          You think if Sony failed with the PS3, they'd leave the console market? I think not. I think they need to learn their lesson, fail miserable with the PS3, and then not make the same mistakes with the PS4 again.
      • "Why? Really why is it important to anyone but themselves that they succeed?"

        It's important because a very large base of owners will allow companies to keep making games with high development costs. Right now they're doing it primarily on faith.
      • Because if Sony folds then it becomes "Microsoft versus Nintendo". Considering Microsoft's past history, a lot of people aren't too comfortable with that thought.
        • by burndive (855848)
          No one wants Sony to fold. We're perfectly happy with them continually buying themselves back in to a losing game.

          I just hope they don't bleed enough money to make the DRM monstrosity that is Blu-Ray a success. As long as it goes the way of UMD, I'll be happy.
          • by tlhIngan (30335)

            just hope they don't bleed enough money to make the DRM monstrosity that is Blu-Ray a success. As long as it goes the way of UMD, I'll be happy.

            Unfortunately, the target users for Blu-Ray (i.e., not us the viewer) wants DRM. That's unfortunately why a standard like HD-DVD is bound to fail - the DVD Forum guys may have learned from the mistakes of DVD (i.e., region coding), but at the same time, they're making it unpalatable to the studios, who want their content locked up tighter than Fort Knox.

            Blu-Ray off

            • by burndive (855848)
              I am one of those low-price (sub-$200) HD DVD player buyers. I'm putting my money on HD DVD being cheaper, and also throwing my hat in with the less-restrictive DRM.

              I fully expect that this holiday season, HD DVD players will be cheap enough for HD DVD to gain the momentum and popular awareness that it needs to succeed.

              One great way for them to seriously screw up Blu-Ray is for the price to stay high.
              • by trdrstv (986999)

                I am one of those low-price (sub-$200) HD DVD player buyers. I'm putting my money on HD DVD being cheaper, and also throwing my hat in with the less-restrictive DRM.

                Also have you noticed the BluRay discs are more expensive too? Unless you're forced to get an HD DVD "combo disc" both the players and movies are less expensive. Throw in the fact that HD DVD is Region free and output 1080p... Why (besides exclusive studios) would you pay the premium? What's the real benefit to the consumer?

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by king-manic (409855)

        "It's important that they succeed."

        Why? Really why is it important to anyone but themselves that they succeed?

        Because the competition (as well as Sony) have shown when they are on top they will be tyrants. So the best situation for gamers is a fairly close race and some diversity. The wii has a good install base, but some games will never come to the wii. So we need a Alternative to the 360 to continue to exist. Remember how each player failed when they dominated. Remember that competition improves markets and products. Thus int he interest of capitalism and gaming we need them not to fold up. Competition is good.

      • by Ang31us (1132361)
        Overall, Sony has helped expand the market for video games. As much as I despise the PlayStation brand, competition is good for the industry overall, because it keeps Nintendo and Microsoft on their toes. It is definitely important that they succeed.
        • by LWATCDR (28044)
          You make an assumption that no one else would bring out a console. Maybe Apple would. Maybe Google would, maybe Sega would comeback.
          • by Ang31us (1132361)
            You're right, of course...but how many consoles can this market support? As it is, development houses like EA want a standard console architecture to develop for to reduce the up-front cost of creating games.

            Apple has a pretty shoddy track record of supporting gamers and I have no idea what a Google offering would even look like.

            I never bought a Sega Master System, Genesis, 32X, Sega CD, or Saturn, but when they put out the Dreamcast while lying on their console manufacturer deathbed, I went out and bo
            • by LWATCDR (28044)
              A game console from Apple does make sense. I think we will see Apple getting into games for the iPhone in a pretty big way even if they are just simple Tetris type games.
              How many game consoles can be supported. I don't know. If it can only be two then live would really be ugly if our choices where only Sony and Microsoft.
              If Sony totaly fails with the PS3 I doubt that will be the end of Sony game consoles. Heck them failing might be the best thing that ever happened. Maybe they will back away from DRM everyt
    • Obviously, you weren't a die-hard Nintendo fan for the recent years of famine and despair. Having owned a Gamecube and nothing else during that time, and having stuck with the DS when it appeared to be going down the gutter, I can safely say that I still love each and every minute of nut kicking that Sony receives. Arrogant pricks.
  • by Hamster Lover (558288) * on Thursday November 08, 2007 @04:44PM (#21285921) Journal
    but I bought my PS3 to play HD games. I really could not care less about Home and I hope to hell that Home doesn't replace the awesome XMB interface.

    Obviously, I am not the target audience here, but does a target audience even exist? I honestly do not see what Sony is attempting to achieve with Home other than unnecessarily complicate the on-line experience. I'd rather Sony put the effort into creating some good games, which are in remarkably short supply at the moment.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my PS3 (and my 360), but Home has zero appeal to me on machine I bought to play Drake's Fortune and Assassin's Creed.
    • by Devir (671031) on Thursday November 08, 2007 @04:59PM (#21286153) Homepage
      I dont know what Sony "Home" is. I'm looking forward to more "remote play" capable games for the PS3/PSP mix. I'm totally awaiting more PS1 games that I can play including FF7.

      THe XMB interface is "ok" at best. THey seriously need to overhaul the video, and music portion of the system. In fact, they should hire the guys who created "Xbox Media Center" for the original Xbox. THat is one sweet piece of software and can completely replace the Xbox and "evox" dash for modded xboxes.

      Seriously, I try to copy music over and it comes over in one long list 1000 lines long. I try to copy it by artist and that fails. The ps3 interface for music and video is horrid. I cant make playlists as well.

      Sony is not bad, it's just that they're trying to do too much too quick, and making it sloppy. Instead of analyzing t he market and predicting needs and trends, they're reacting to the market and responding to trends. This makes a rushed out the door feel to products. THey need to step back, analyze what the consumer wants and provide that.

      For now My modded Xbox has no media center replacement.
      For now the PS3 is my updated PS2.
      I want backwards compatability, hence why I rushed to buy the 60 gig.
      I want to download games, and stream to my PSP.
      I want more remote play titles. Heck, I'd love to be able to play a PS2 game through remote play.

      There's tons of things Sony "could" do with the PS3. They just need to stop, step back, take a global look, and start revising it piece by piece. Start with more PSP interoperability. I love that feature.

      • by rworne (538610) on Thursday November 08, 2007 @05:31PM (#21286557) Homepage

        Seriously, I try to copy music over and it comes over in one long list 1000 lines long. I try to copy it by artist and that fails. The ps3 interface for music and video is horrid. I cant make playlists as well.


        Wow, they must have heard you and then issued a firmware update that addresses this very problem...

        Seriously, v2.0 was released this morning and includes playlists, themes, and remote play. How much of an improvement it is is still up to debate.
        • by Devir (671031)
          Ok then. I just got home, I read this response, and wam, turn on the PS3. THe update is downloading now.

          Thanks for letting me know this, since it was a very important item on my "Ps3 gripe" list.

          37% downloaded, grr DSL. FIOS install tomorrow.
        • by trdrstv (986999)

          Wow, they must have heard you and then issued a firmware update that addresses this very problem...

          Seriously, v2.0 was released this morning and includes playlists, themes, and remote play. How much of an improvement it is is still up to debate.

          Did they add an "auto off setting" for an inactive controller, or do I still have to manually turn off the controller every time?

      • Remember in the early 90s when everyone thought online shops would be virtual 3D things where you walk through virtual 3D stores, put virtual 3D goods into your virtual 3D basket, then virtually carry your 3D basket to a virtual 3D cash register and virtually paid virtual 3D money?

        That's Home, except for online communities and videogame matchmaking instead of online shopping.

        Instead of a linear list of buddies you can chat with, invite to games or otherwise interact, you get a virtual 3D home with virtual f
        • by Devir (671031)
          I'm scared for the future then...

          Updated system. Interface still sucks. They need to steal ideas from the Xbox Media Center. It's not nice when a multibillion dollar company gets beat out by a couple of guys programming semi gray legal software for free.
          • by LKM (227954)

            They need to steal ideas from the Xbox Media Center

            Yes. And from the Xbox blade interface, and from the Wii interface.

            Frankly, the PS3 interface is a mess. It's a neat idea for the PSP, where you have few things, but on the PS3, it just breaks down. Scrolling through my list of movies or games actually takes probably about half a minute from top to bottom. Why can't we have some way to order this stuff into directories? Sorting everything by activity also doesn't quite work: If I played skate and want t

        • by KlomDark (6370)
          Did Melinda Gates jump ship to Sony? Sounds a lot like her old Microsoft Bob project.
  • they'd widgetize the whole thing and let their users decide how the place looks.
  • ...I will urinate myself while convulsing with laughter if a new blade appears on xbox live offering a very, very similar virtual environment. Well at least they have the servers to run such a venture.

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