CES has brought out quite a bit of news, for subjects across the tech industry. The future of the Xbox 360 seems to a subject Microsoft can't talk enough about. Gates' keynote touched on new media partnerships for Live Marketplace, like the collaboration with Disney/ABC. A post-keynote email to several games writers noted that 2008 will be the company's year to capitalize on strong hardware and software sales from the holiday season, and that several as-yet-unannounced exclusive 360 titles are in the works. Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name.
Gates plans to market the XBox 360 as an alternative to the OLPC. While the price is not $188 yet, his CEO voodoo math has predicted that by 2010 it will be $188. It will have two straps added to it so that it can be worn like a backpack and come with heads-up display helmets which he bought at reduced cost from Lucas after all of his scenes with clones in Star Wars. Freakish looking shock troopers will poor forth from 3rd world countries and create waves of ultra intelligent Xbox live users chanting for more NASCAR and looking to 'kick some ass.'
No longer concerned with rice and potable water, they will demand badges and strive to be atop a point ranking system. Several dictators will realize that equipping the outfits with actual weapons and removing the heads up helmets make them perfect mindless warriors with twitch movements that would put Ali to shame.
All hippie wii players will be destroyed in the great cleansing while PS3 players will live it out safely, unknowingly in their basements.
After that, the XBox 360 will be useless. Used and marketed in more ways than a Singapore whore, the XBox 360 will shave its head in a desperate cry for attention. Then it will start dropping babies all over the place and release an album with the title track ripping into Gates.
The XBox 360 will then spend the rest of eternity in the old consoles home with the NeoGeo, TurboGrafix 16 and Jaguar 32 playing pong and solitaire. Visiting hours will be from noon to 5pm Monday-Friday.
heh - probably the name it should have had - the Panther was never released and the Jaguar wasn't exactly a 64 bit system, it was a 32 bit CPU (the motorola 68000) and 32 bit coprocessor (essentially a GPU) with a 64 bit ALU (essentially an integer math coprocessor). Using the same argument, many of the 32 bit machines with 64 bit FPUs (like my mom's mac circa 1996) were also 64 bit machines.
(Also known as the original 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System)
Doesn't change the fact that I now own a Wii.... It's not "next gen" any more, because it's on the market now. They aren't still selling *new* PS2s. Whether games are still being made or not is irrelevant. They aren't still making them, therefore it's not still the current generation.
Doesn't change the fact that I now own a Wii.... It's not "next gen" any more, because it's on the market now. They aren't still selling *new* PS2s. Whether games are still being made or not is irrelevant. They aren't still making them, therefore it's not still the current generation.
sure they are. its just called the pstwo now. big box stores have them for 129.
They actually remodeled the PS2 recently. In late November they announced a revision of the slim version that includes the power supply inside the unit.
I'd take that as a sign that they're still making them.
Given that the PS2 was still the best selling console on the market under a year ago, and sold more than the PS3 in December, I would have to guess that they are still making them. Heck, it's the only console on the market that can compete with the Wii on price.
Last/Current/Next/Latest Generation vocab aside, the PS2 has built an enormous library of titles and new titles continue to be released for it. PS2s will remain on many store shelves for some time to come. There are quite possibly still more PS2s out there, functioning, and connected to TVs (not packed away in a closet) than all 3 "new gen" consoles combined. It's in decline, to be sure, game studios have finally (and very recently) begun shifting th
Bah! I think my Atari 2600 still works, even though it is in my attic. You kids and your realistic graphics, bah. In my time, we had ET and... well honestly, we hated it. Bah again.
and whats not real about the 2600's graphics.. they ment to draw dots ont he screen and there they are.. anyone can do that.. now what i wnat is imaginable graphics - you know. where the image isn't real.. itis all in your imagination..
then we can jsut sell a black painted brick with a crome stripe to people and tell them to start playing and the imaginable graphics will knock them on their asses....
if they call and complain that it doesn't work then we inform them it is user error.. and that they need to
Please tell me we aren't going to start using the term "next-next-gen".
Can't we just start calling the current consoles "current gen"?
No! Because then you give up the idea that these devices are The Future(tm), which is much more exciting than admitting that they are nothing more than the boring old Present.
The "next gen" will only become "current gen" when the companies selling these things want us to get excited about their next product that will be out in a year.
Microsoft is going to try to continue to market the xbox 360? And write games for it? As well as collaborate with other companies to enhance it's live features?
The 360 would benefit a bit from filling in gaps that other consoles currently do. Sure, it can't release a "Wii Sports" kind of title but there are certain genres in which it's quite weak and doesn't have to be.
One is fighting games. These are really popular despite not really having "progressed" much in something like a decade (even more for some subgenres). Don't give fans a sub-par Guilty Gear and a Dead or Alive and leave it at that. Give folks a *solid* 2D fighter. A Smash Bros competitor couldn't hurt, either, since as fantastic as that series is, it's all too easy to improve on.
Another is JRPGs. Even Americans play these, believe it or not (duh, PS2 RPGs sell brilliantly here after all), and you don't need to be a Japanese developer to whip these up. You just need good art direction and the rest will fall into place assuming the combat system isn't a total disaster. One shoddy attempt with Dragonball Z character design doesn't cut it.
Thirdly, where are the platformers? We got Kameo early on, but that's it! I know Rare can't be bothered to make many games anymore, but there are certainly other developers that can be asked to do the job.
The way things are now are good enough for the 360, but I would rather see less of a total saturation of shooters and rubbish racing games and a bit more diversity in the upcoming game lineup.
I can tell you exactly why there haven't been more fighting games on the 360...because second only to every playstation controller, the 360's controller has THE WORST d-pad ever concieved. I love the 360 controller to death, but the d-pad appears to have been designed by someone who had their mushroom tea spiked with GHB...
For JRPGs, I would suggest Eternal Sonata [wikipedia.org]. Wonderful music, visuals, and gameplay that JRPG fans will find familiar but still interesting. I haven't finished it, but so far I've been very happy with it.
Mass Effect [wikipedia.org] is also amazing. It's North American, but I think it still appeals to fans of JRPGs.
For platformers, The Simpsons Game [wikipedia.org] is surprisingly decent. The real strength of the game is its humourous writing, but platformer fans should similarly find the gameplay familiar but still interesting. Give it a tr
I 100% agree with your first two choices...but the Simpsons game had one big issue that prevented me from playing any further than the 3rd level: It has, without a doubt, the most frustrating camera I have ever seen in an otherwise decent game (the Wii controls are crap too, the epitome of tacked-on waggle)
Why? There isn't enough market to justify the cost. Fighting games have become a niche market since the death of the arcade. They are too twitchy to perform well over the Internet, it is boring against the AI, and it is hard to find competitive matches among friends.
An announcement of KI3 would erase any such sentiment, I'd say. Also, Smash Bros made an absolute killing on the Gamecube. So, I disagree. It's about the game, not the genre.
Take out Final Fantasy
You'd have to take out FF, Kingdom Hears, and Dragonquest. And the point isn't to create blockbuster hits to dethrone GTA, it's to diversify a game lineup to keep folks from getting a PS2 and sticking with just a 360.
Take out Final Fantasy and you won't see many JRPGs in the list of best selling video games.
I guess that's true if you ignore the Number 1 best selling game, and 4 others in the top 20. Hate to inform you of this but Pokemon is a JRPG (look at your own references break down by genre). So as it turns out 6 of the top 20 best selling Console games are JRPGs. Heck take out Gran Turismo and Mario and you end up with the majority of the top 20 being JRPGs.
Sports, shooters, and racing dominate console sales.
Again using your own reference the top 20 contains 4 racing games (all Gran Turismo), no shooters and no sports games.
I'm all about people havi
Two games: Virtua Fighter 5 and Psychonauts. Yes, one's 3D and the other's an XBox game, but both are solid games.
More to your point - XBox Live Arcade games are what differentiate the XBox 360 from other consoles. I've probably bought as many Arcade games as I have full games.
Another is JRPGs. Even Americans play these, believe it or not (duh, PS2 RPGs sell brilliantly here after all),
Actually, they don't sell very well here. The top handful of them do, but once you get past that, sales aren't very good. There is a reason the vast majority of them never see life outside of Japan.
I still haven't opened my Bioshock copy for PC, but I will once I have more free time, haha. If there are many 2d fighters for the 360, then they certainly aren't marketed well. But I'd say there just aren't many at all. Killer Instinct 3 would make headlines and the cover of every gaming magazine. A proper port of Melty Blood couldn't hurt, and like I said before a Smash competitor would be nice. People complain about the D-Pad, but it's just fine for me as a DOA player, and something like Smash doesn't use
"Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name."
You do know it takes years to develop new hardware right? They don't just produce it overnight. Of course MS as well as Sony and Nintendo are working on their next generation of consoles. It would be stupid of them not to be. Didn't Sony mention working on the PS4 before the PS3 was even released?
Fans of the platform might still have some anxiety this year; a rumour on the 1up site indicates Microsoft is already working on a game for the next-next-gen console to bear the Xbox name.
Morons might have some anxiety over this. High profile games take years to develop, particularly when they're trying to meet a tentative launch date of a console that doesn't even have firm hardware specs in place.
The original Xbox was cut short because 1) it was a money losing platform for Microsoft and 2) because Microsoft saw launching before the PS3 as crucial to their success. While Microsoft is still having trouble making the 360 profitable, it's doing significantly better than the original Xbox was. As for #2, Microsoft is in no hurry to beat out the other two machines, which are only a year old right now and probably won't be replaced for at least another 4 years, at which point the 360 would be 6 years old.
You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it.
You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it.
I imagine it'll be much longer than 3 years.
Remember all the fuss when MS launched the Xbox360 and everyone complained that they'd kicked off the next gen of consoles too early just to gain some market share?
The result has been poorly utilized processing power in the Xbox360 and PS3 because there wasn't enough lead time for developers. I don't think anyone really wants that to happen again.
Actually most of us 'hardcore' gamers would still like to see longer periods between consoles. It's my firm belief the last generation was cut short by at LEAST a year before it needed to be, the PS2, GC and Xbox all were quite capable of outputting some fairly nice graphics in their final days, also 2 of the 3 had network capability, 2 of them could hold full DVD sized data (9gb) they had digital audio out (in most cases) supported 5.1 audio or pro logic 1 / 2 and all 3 could (in most cases) output via comp
The Xbox 360 and PS3 both do look nice, no doubt but I don't think the leap was that great. The graphical capabilities of both new HD consoles is obviously better but is it leaps and bounds better? We're not just upping the ante with texture detail, polygons, quantity of multi-textures per surface, we're also increasing the resolution which impacts us 4x slower (well approximately)
I'll let someone else chime in for the 360, but the PS3 is quite a gigantic leap from a PS2, as far as features are concerned anyway. It's really a beast if you compare the two. Hard drive, PS2 built in, bluetooth controllers standard, BT headset available, ethernet & wireless built in, plays one of the contending DVD replacements.
Graphically, I don't know what you're looking for, but at least compare the first year of PS2 titles to the current PS3 titles to be somewhat fair. The earlier games are rar
Actually most of us 'hardcore' gamers would still like to see longer periods between consoles.
It's my firm belief the last generation was cut short by at LEAST a year before it needed to be
The original Xbox was on the market for 4 years before Microsoft cut it off. Correct me if I misunderstand you, but if you think last gen should have lasted at least another year, you're saying the Xbox should have made it to at least 5 years. That's exactly what I said. The Xbox 360 is now 2 years old. If it lasts an
"Not to start a flame war, but will this console orgy mean the end of PC gaming?"
Doubtful, PC gaming has had it's ups and downs, I think the real problem now is software quality in games has leveled off and market saturation is taking effect. PC games still have MMO's, RPG's, FPS and racing, it's just more cross platform.
How can you say the last year has been bad for PC gaming? You'd have to be pretty out of the loop, thats for sure.
The low sales of Crysis are troubling. Doom 3 sold very well, and it was equally a system-killer. There is legitimate concern that PC game piracy is reaching epic proportions, enough to actually make game development unprofitable.
I think you're leaving out some very important information about the lack of sales when compared to doom 3:
first off, it had been like 10 years since the release of doom 2, which as we all know doom to be a very popular old time favorite for many of us. on the other hand, far cry was never as popular, and even though it was pretty fun, had nothing new to bring to plate that we hadn't already seen in the likes of halflife and whatnot
second, most people's PCs can run crysis, but at the Low settings. the low settings make the game look exactly like farcry, so whats the point.
third, there's just nothing else notable about crysis besides the graphics (if you have the hardware for it). And even there its only for the effects, take a look at call of duty 4: sure the graphics aren't near crysis, but the presentation is tremendously powerful and makes it work.
fourth, the single player in crysis was fun, kinda, but really really short. combine that with a poorly designed multiplayer and you have a game with no longevity. in essence you have a 50 dollar sink hole for anyone except those who have a powerful new computer.
And that's exactly the reason I haven't got it. When I upgrade my video card, I'll pick up a copy, but until then I'll stick with my 360. The physics and their impact on game play look intriguing, but as I understand it you can't take advantage of that on lower settings.
"The low sales of Crysis are troubling." Which is not surprising given that game developers have over-saturated the market with FPS clones for some time now, the industry has done it to itself.
Supreme commander sold well enough to engender an expansion and talk of a second game. One star falls, anothers rises. Must be something to do with not flooding the market with crap people don't want to pay for maybe? hmm.. I think so! Just because dev's/pubs make a game does not mean I am obligated to buy it just b
Game developers and industry pushed the new consoles, consumers don't control these companies, they sped up the development and pushed the graphics angle faster and faster, the drove up their *own* dev costs. Gamers have absolutely no control over these companies, and the decision making.
You do realize that the Xbox 360 and Wii came out when they did because their predecessors stopped selling, right? Consumers said they had enough of the Xbox and GameCube, hence the need for the newer systems. The PS2 was t
It's not piracy. It's consoles being able to run more and more of the sorts of games PCs are known for, and being able to run them without all the hassles of PC gaming rigs. The death-knell of PC gaming is games like Orange Box, Bioshock and Unreal Tournament running on consoles.
Consoles are all about tacking on a licence fee for the console manufacturer. At the end of the day, PC games can always discount to the actual licence fee the console manufacturer charges, and always win the price war.
Consoles were originally about selling hardware at a price point regular PC couldn't compete with, that is their only advantage, we cheap powerful PC reach that price point consoles are a dead end. Why limit yourself to a toy when you can get full free choice with a Linux PC.
I'm curious-- did your friend check the build date prior to purchase? You can actually check this with a closed package, or could with mine when I purchased it...I had two die on me, but the latest one, produced this summer/with the new heat system, seems far more stable. While it could be luck of the draw, I've heard a similar story from others.
I totally agree that it's ridiculous...At least the return program is pretty easy to deal with?
I thought the same thing, and then my launch 360 failed this week. I've only ever used it in completely open spaces, and it is currently sitting all by itself on top of a glass shelf. It's been suggested that the failure rate is as high as 33%, and I believe it given how easy it was to place the RMA.
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No longer concerned with rice and potable water, they will demand badges and strive to be atop a point ranking system. Several dictators will realize that equipping the outfits with actual weapons and removing the heads up helmets make them perfect mindless warriors with twitch movements that would put Ali to shame.
All hippie wii players will be destroyed in the great cleansing while PS3 players will live it out safely, unknowingly in their basements.
After that, the XBox 360 will be useless. Used and marketed in more ways than a Singapore whore, the XBox 360 will shave its head in a desperate cry for attention. Then it will start dropping babies all over the place and release an album with the title track ripping into Gates.
The XBox 360 will then spend the rest of eternity in the old consoles home with the NeoGeo, TurboGrafix 16 and Jaguar 32 playing pong and solitaire. Visiting hours will be from noon to 5pm Monday-Friday.
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**pets his Jaguar 64**
The Atari 32-bit system was the Panther, get it right.
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Will it come complete with a month's supply of burn cream?
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Can't we just start calling the current consoles "current gen"?
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(Also known as the original 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System)
Doesn't change the fact that I now own a Wii.... It's not "next gen" any more, because it's on the market now. They aren't still selling *new* PS2s. Whether games are still being made or not is irrelevant. They aren't still making them, therefore it's not still the current generation.
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sure they are. its just called the pstwo now. big box stores have them for 129.
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While I don't speak for Sony, it's not exactly in their best interest to keep building them, as that detracts from PS3 production.
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I'd take that as a sign that they're still making them.
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Yes they are [amazon.com].
Last/Current/Next/Latest Generation vocab aside, the PS2 has built an enormous library of titles and new titles continue to be released for it. PS2s will remain on many store shelves for some time to come. There are quite possibly still more PS2s out there, functioning, and connected to TVs (not packed away in a closet) than all 3 "new gen" consoles combined. It's in decline, to be sure, game studios have finally (and very recently) begun shifting th
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I have exponentially more titles I still play on NES compared to my PS2. Is PS2 "next gen" still?
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Bah! I think my Atari 2600 still works, even though it is in my attic. You kids and your realistic graphics, bah. In my time, we had ET and... well honestly, we hated it. Bah again.
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now what i wnat is imaginable graphics - you know. where the image isn't real.. itis all in your imagination..
then we can jsut sell a black painted brick with a crome stripe to people and tell them to start playing and the imaginable graphics will knock them on their asses....
if they call and complain that it doesn't work then we inform them it is user error.. and that they need to
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Can't we just start calling the current consoles "current gen"?
No! Because then you give up the idea that these devices are The Future(tm), which is much more exciting than admitting that they are nothing more than the boring old Present.
The "next gen" will only become "current gen" when the companies selling these things want us to get excited about their next product that will be out in a year.
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This is truly remarkable news.
Fill in the lineup gaps (Score:5, Interesting)
One is fighting games. These are really popular despite not really having "progressed" much in something like a decade (even more for some subgenres). Don't give fans a sub-par Guilty Gear and a Dead or Alive and leave it at that. Give folks a *solid* 2D fighter. A Smash Bros competitor couldn't hurt, either, since as fantastic as that series is, it's all too easy to improve on.
Another is JRPGs. Even Americans play these, believe it or not (duh, PS2 RPGs sell brilliantly here after all), and you don't need to be a Japanese developer to whip these up. You just need good art direction and the rest will fall into place assuming the combat system isn't a total disaster. One shoddy attempt with Dragonball Z character design doesn't cut it.
Thirdly, where are the platformers? We got Kameo early on, but that's it! I know Rare can't be bothered to make many games anymore, but there are certainly other developers that can be asked to do the job.
The way things are now are good enough for the 360, but I would rather see less of a total saturation of shooters and rubbish racing games and a bit more diversity in the upcoming game lineup.
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Mass Effect [wikipedia.org] is also amazing. It's North American, but I think it still appeals to fans of JRPGs.
For platformers, The Simpsons Game [wikipedia.org] is surprisingly decent. The real strength of the game is its humourous writing, but platformer fans should similarly find the gameplay familiar but still interesting. Give it a tr
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"Give folks a *solid* 2D fighter"
Why? There isn't enough market to justify the cost. Fighting games have become a niche market since the death of the arcade. They are too twitchy to perform well over the Internet, it is boring against the AI, and it is hard to find competitive matches among friends.
"Another is JRPGs."
Take out Final Fantasy and you won't see many JRPGs in the list of best selling video games. [wikipedia.org]
"The way things are now are good enough for the 360, but I would rather see less of
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There isn't enough market to justify the cost
An announcement of KI3 would erase any such sentiment, I'd say. Also, Smash Bros made an absolute killing on the Gamecube. So, I disagree. It's about the game, not the genre.
Take out Final Fantasy
You'd have to take out FF, Kingdom Hears, and Dragonquest. And the point isn't to create blockbuster hits to dethrone GTA, it's to diversify a game lineup to keep folks from getting a PS2 and sticking with just a 360.
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Take out Final Fantasy and you won't see many JRPGs in the list of best selling video games.
I guess that's true if you ignore the Number 1 best selling game, and 4 others in the top 20. Hate to inform you of this but Pokemon is a JRPG (look at your own references break down by genre). So as it turns out 6 of the top 20 best selling Console games are JRPGs. Heck take out Gran Turismo and Mario and you end up with the majority of the top 20 being JRPGs.
Sports, shooters, and racing dominate console sales.
Again using your own reference the top 20 contains 4 racing games (all Gran Turismo), no shooters and no sports games. I'm all about people havi
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More to your point - XBox Live Arcade games are what differentiate the XBox 360 from other consoles. I've probably bought as many Arcade games as I have full games.
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Actually, they don't sell very well here. The top handful of them do, but once you get past that, sales aren't very good. There is a reason the vast majority of them never see life outside of Japan.
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If there are many 2d fighters for the 360, then they certainly aren't marketed well. But I'd say there just aren't many at all. Killer Instinct 3 would make headlines and the cover of every gaming magazine. A proper port of Melty Blood couldn't hurt, and like I said before a Smash competitor would be nice. People complain about the D-Pad, but it's just fine for me as a DOA player, and something like Smash doesn't use
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Morons might have some anxiety over this. High profile games take years to develop, particularly when they're trying to meet a tentative launch date of a console that doesn't even have firm hardware specs in place.
The original Xbox was cut short because 1) it was a money losing platform for Microsoft and 2) because Microsoft saw launching before the PS3 as crucial to their success. While Microsoft is still having trouble making the 360 profitable, it's doing significantly better than the original Xbox was. As for #2, Microsoft is in no hurry to beat out the other two machines, which are only a year old right now and probably won't be replaced for at least another 4 years, at which point the 360 would be 6 years old.
You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it.
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You can practically guarantee that the 360 has, at the very least, 3 more years of life before Microsoft decides to replace it.
I imagine it'll be much longer than 3 years.
Remember all the fuss when MS launched the Xbox360 and everyone complained that they'd kicked off the next gen of consoles too early just to gain some market share?
The result has been poorly utilized processing power in the Xbox360 and PS3 because there wasn't enough lead time for developers. I don't think anyone really wants that to happen again.
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It's my firm belief the last generation was cut short by at LEAST a year before it needed to be, the PS2, GC and Xbox all were quite capable of outputting some fairly nice graphics in their final days, also 2 of the 3 had network capability, 2 of them could hold full DVD sized data (9gb) they had digital audio out (in most cases) supported 5.1 audio or pro logic 1 / 2 and all 3 could (in most cases) output via comp
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The Xbox 360 and PS3 both do look nice, no doubt but I don't think the leap was that great.
The graphical capabilities of both new HD consoles is obviously better but is it leaps and bounds better?
We're not just upping the ante with texture detail, polygons, quantity of multi-textures per surface, we're also increasing the resolution which impacts us 4x slower (well approximately)
I'll let someone else chime in for the 360, but the PS3 is quite a gigantic leap from a PS2, as far as features are concerned anyway.
It's really a beast if you compare the two. Hard drive, PS2 built in, bluetooth controllers standard, BT headset available, ethernet & wireless built in, plays one of the contending DVD replacements.
Graphically, I don't know what you're looking for, but at least compare the first year of PS2 titles to the current PS3 titles to be somewhat fair. The earlier games are rar
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The original Xbox was on the market for 4 years before Microsoft cut it off. Correct me if I misunderstand you, but if you think last gen should have lasted at least another year, you're saying the Xbox should have made it to at least 5 years. That's exactly what I said. The Xbox 360 is now 2 years old. If it lasts an
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Doubtful, PC gaming has had it's ups and downs, I think the real problem now is software quality in games has leveled off and market saturation is taking effect. PC games still have MMO's, RPG's, FPS and racing, it's just more cross platform.
How can you say the last year has been bad for PC gaming? You'd have to be pretty out of the loop, thats for sure.
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first off, it had been like 10 years since the release of doom 2, which as we all know doom to be a very popular old time favorite for many of us. on the other hand, far cry was never as popular, and even though it was pretty fun, had nothing new to bring to plate that we hadn't already seen in the likes of halflife and whatnot
second, most people's PCs can run crysis, but at the Low settings. the low settings make the game look exactly like farcry, so whats the point.
third, there's just nothing else notable about crysis besides the graphics (if you have the hardware for it). And even there its only for the effects, take a look at call of duty 4: sure the graphics aren't near crysis, but the presentation is tremendously powerful and makes it work.
fourth, the single player in crysis was fun, kinda, but really really short. combine that with a poorly designed multiplayer and you have a game with no longevity. in essence you have a 50 dollar sink hole for anyone except those who have a powerful new computer.
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Which is not surprising given that game developers have over-saturated the market with FPS clones for some time now, the industry has done it to itself.
Supreme commander sold well enough to engender an expansion and talk of a second game. One star falls, anothers rises. Must be something to do with not flooding the market with crap people don't want to pay for maybe? hmm.. I think so! Just because dev's/pubs make a game does not mean I am obligated to buy it just b
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You do realize that the Xbox 360 and Wii came out when they did because their predecessors stopped selling, right? Consumers said they had enough of the Xbox and GameCube, hence the need for the newer systems. The PS2 was t
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Consoles were originally about selling hardware at a price point regular PC couldn't compete with, that is their only advantage, we cheap powerful PC reach that price point consoles are a dead end. Why limit yourself to a toy when you can get full free choice with a Linux PC.
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I totally agree that it's ridiculous...At least the return program is pretty easy to deal with?
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