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The Duke Is Finally Back, For Real 309

Posted by kdawson
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After the first announcement on 1997-04-27 and over eleven years of fresh start after fresh start, Duke Nukem Forever finally comes to your system. At least if your system is an Xbox 360. Jon Siegler, the webmaster of 3D Realms, confirms this on their site: "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that the game has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done — it is now in the hands of Microsoft." Update: 08/19 10:47 GMT by T : Several readers have written with a correction: this announcement is actually about Duke Nukem 3D, rather than Duke Nukem Forever.
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The Duke Is Finally Back, For Real

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  • by amrik98 (1214484) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:21AM (#24655991)
    Standby, I'm seeing pigs flying outside my window.
  • I knew it (Score:5, Funny)

    by tyler.willard (944724) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:23AM (#24656009)
    I've always known that the Apocalypse would fall on a Tuesday.
  • Wrong... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:23AM (#24656011)

    Uh... no?

    The story is about Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade, NOT Duke Nukem Forever.

    Bad summary. Bad.

    • Re:Wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by fastest fascist (1086001) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:47AM (#24656153)
      Bad to the point of me thinking the editors might as well just pull this entire posting. Except that'd be too easy on them, I guess. Seriously, though - RTFA, anyone?
      • It's probably easy for them to mistake this for a Duke Nukem Forever announcement since it is so very rare that game developers announce a new port of a 12 and a half year old computer game to yet another new platform.

        In case some people haven't realized it yet, Duke Nukem Forever is a JOKE guys. The whole point of the joke is that Duke Nukem will continue to be ported to new platforms "forever" as they become available. There isn't going to be an actual game with killer graphics called "Duke Nukem Foreve

        • Re:Wrong... (Score:4, Informative)

          by Sycraft-fu (314770) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @06:05AM (#24656505)

          Actually re-releases of older games on newer platforms are becoming more common. Game devs have started to note the flourishing emulation community and realized that people still like to play the old classics. Sometimes, they go out and use the emulators to do it. Sierra uses DOSBox to run their compilations on Windows. Also Nintendo has a SNES emulator (developed in house I think) on the Wii so you can buy favored SNES games and play them. So that isn't surprising.

          Also DNF is no joke, or at least if it is the joke's on 3Drealms. They have currently licensed not one, not two but three high end (at the time) 3D engines over the course of developing it. That is some seriously expensive shit. They've spent a lot of money working on it. Be it ineptitude or something else, they've sunk a lot of money in the project.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by v1 (525388)

        No they'll just add the "badsummary" and "wrongsummary" tags to it and be done with it, same as every other time.

      • Re:Wrong... (Score:5, Funny)

        by sortius_nod (1080919) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @06:25AM (#24656611) Homepage

        When noone else RTFA on /. why would the editors?

        Much love /.

      • Re:Wrong... (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Dogtanian (588974) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @07:49AM (#24657133) Homepage

        Bad to the point of me thinking the editors might as well just pull this entire posting. Except that'd be too easy on them, I guess. Seriously, though - RTFA, anyone?

        Not-particularly-outlandish conspiracy time; the editor(s) in question knew that this would probably be found out as a "mistake" quite quickly, but that it would generate page views (at least) and discussion anyway. And since the majority of Slashdotters aren't subscribers, that's probably how they make most of their money.

        Can't say I hold this against them badly; it's just a little commercial pragmatism.

        The same goes for "accidental" duplicates of stories that generate good interest and discussion, but are about to fall off the front page.

        What gets me is that people will dismiss this (Slashdot editors acting in a mildly cynical but commercially pragmatic manner do something fairly *straightforward*- and not all that evil- that makes commercial sense) as a loony conspiracy theory. Yet they'll continue to believe the alternative, that the editors continue to be employed despite making transparent "mistakes" and displaying supposed incompetence that would verge on the drool-inducing. Get real!

    • Yep (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Sycraft-fu (314770) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:56AM (#24656465)

      As a practical matter it isn't real likely that DNF would come out now, not just because of it's vaporware status but because it is, yet again, time for another engine change. DNF was being developed on a modified Unreal Engine 2. Ok, no problem... Except that Unreal Engine 3 is out. Not only is it out, there are a bunch of first flight games using it. Bio Shock, Mass Effect, UT3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, this is what people expect new, top of the line shooters to look like. So if they release with a game based on the old engine, well it isn't likely to do so well, especially given all the buildup. Thus they'll need to license UE 3, and then they'll be conversion work for that.

      However I suspect what is happening is money is starting to run out. A number of products that they were publishing/producing got transferred to other companies, which suggests they don't have the funds to keep development going. Duke 3D being one of their only properties around, they seem to be trying for another release to get some more cash.

      I can't say I'm all that surprised, they have done basically nothing as a developer for over a decade, and not a whole lot as a publisher (most of their stuff published this decade are Duke rehashes for various platforms). It can't be cheap to continue working on this game that's never getting released. Compounding that is licensing cost for buying new game engines all the time. 3D engines from companies like Epic and iD are not cheap, and even less so when it is the top of the line engine. They've thus far bought 3 of them (Quake 2, UE 1 and UE 2) and that is going to hit the bottom line.

      Personally, I think they'll go bankrupt before they ever actually get DNF out. Most likely the property will be sold to another studio. Who knows what will come of it? At this point, I just don't see them as being able to get together the money to finish it, even if they did actually stop screwing around and work on getting it out.

      • Re:Yep (Score:5, Interesting)

        by JSDopefish (742020) <joe@@@siegler...net> on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @09:10AM (#24658037) Homepage

        Think what you wish.

        One of the primary reasons this was done was an exercise for our programmers on 360 coding, how to interface with Live, etc, etc, etc. This was done on a "smaller" project so that kinks and issues can be worked out for the larger project (DNF).

        If you want to chicken little the world, go ahead. Doesn't make it right. :)

        Joe Siegler
        Webmaster - 3D Realms

        • Re:Yep (Score:5, Insightful)

          by elrous0 (869638) * on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @09:28AM (#24658295)
          At this point the burden of proof is on YOU, my friend. We're not the ones with a decade of bullshit promises that we've never delivered on.
        • I think (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Sycraft-fu (314770)

          As the other poster said, the burden of proof is on YOU. I've been hearing of DNF for over a decade, and thus far there's nothing to show for it. I don't claim to be an expert on the development cycle, but I do know more than a little about computer technology. I know that things change FAST and what you did 10 years ago doesn't cut it today.

          You want people like me to quit giving you shit for rehashes of Duke 3D? Then release DNF, and it'd better not suck. You can't do that because it's still not "done" aft

  • Not DNF (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ack_OZ (64662) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:23AM (#24656013)

    This isn't a release of Duke Nukem Forever, just an updated Duke 3d for Xbox 360...

    (As I am sure many posts will correct)

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by hey! (33014)

      Yep, it's Duke Nukem Updated For The Time Being. Just shows the advantages and limitations of agile methods.

  • by thunderclap (972782) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:23AM (#24656015)
    And Here I was looking forwards to it receiving the 2009 Vaporware award of the year! They were going to give it an lifetime non-achievement award too.
  • Duke 3d, not DNF (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:23AM (#24656017)

    This story is about Duke Nukem 3D, not Duke Nukem Forever.

    *sigh*

  • 3D not Forever (Score:4, Interesting)

    by octover (22078) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:25AM (#24656031) Homepage

    The apocalypse is not upon us. The summary is wrong, for those of you new here. This is Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox Live Arcade and not Duke Nukem Forever.

  • by iregisteredjustforth (1155123) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @04:26AM (#24656037)

    The announcement is about Duke Nukem 3D on XBLA, not Duke Nukem Forever.

  • by eclectro (227083)

    That means the game is done -- it is now in the hands of Microsoft.

    as they hold it there is this barely perceptible crackling sound as a thousand fissures in the disk appear and as they grow more and more numerous the disk turns to sand and filters through thier fingers and as the sand hits the floor it turns back to the vapor from whence it came.

    Either that countless Xbos systems melt down as people try to play it. It'll be one of those two.

  • Everyone else here pointed out the obvious. Kdawson, I volunteer my time to reading summaries and clicking on links before putting hogwash on games.slashdot (only games!). Thank you.

  • it is now in the hands of Microsoft.

    Given how long it was taking, I was under the impression that it had been in their hands all along!

  • Even the editor (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Clarious (1177725) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:00AM (#24656205)
    doesn't RTFA
  • Amazing (Score:5, Funny)

    by muffen (321442) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:04AM (#24656217)
    A [slashdot.org] Duke [slashdot.org] Nukem [slashdot.org] Forever [slashdot.org] article [slashdot.org] posted [slashdot.org] on [slashdot.org] slashdot [slashdot.org], has [slashdot.org] this [slashdot.org] ever [slashdot.org] happened [slashdot.org] before [slashdot.org] ? [slashdot.org]

    Results 1 - 10 of about 852 from slashdot.org for duke nukem forever.

    Lets hope the game actually gets released before we have to read another 800+ articles about it ;)
  • by w4rl5ck (531459) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:09AM (#24656235) Homepage

    ... this announcement, making a clear statement that this is NOT Duke Nukem Forever?

    Sorry for shouting, but this is really a complete mess... it might even lead to nervous breakdowns, common outrages, mass panic etc.pp. - not to mention camping havoc before retail stores...

  • Tags (Score:5, Insightful)

    by VocationalZero (1306233) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:16AM (#24656271) Journal

    fps, badsummary, wrongsummary, !dukenukemforever, kdawsonsucks (tagging beta)

    Best. Tags. Ever.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by ari_j (90255)
      Interestingly enough, one of those tags has been removed. I wonder who did that. Everyone, tag this article kdawsonsucksandisretarded for good measure.
  • DN3D != DNF
    Article Summary == Wrong
    Editors == Fail

    Thank god for that or the world would need a new product to hold up as shining example of vapourware ;)

    (Microsoft works which actually lives up to the name would be a candidate, linux desktop edition another)

  • by tekrat (242117) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @05:26AM (#24656321) Homepage Journal

    If it had *actually* been Duke Nukem Forever being released, this particular Slashdot meme would be forever dead... I mean, what else would there be for us to complain about?

    • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

      by kadehje (107385)

      Let me highlight some ideas for future complaints:

      "As has been reported around the net today, we can confirm that [Duke Nukem Forever] has indeed passed final certification with Microsoft on Friday the 15th of August (on our first try, no less). That means the game is done â" it is now in the hands of Microsoft."

      Enough said. ;)

  • And in the news, next week the Amiga has it's comeback!

  • by laejoh (648921)

    w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh, w00sh...

    Xbox 360... shit; I'm still only coding for Xbox 360... Every time I think I'm gonna wake up back behind my pc coding Duke Nukem Forever forever. When I was home after my first checkin it was worse. I'd wake up and there'd be nothing. I hardly said a word to my wife, until I said "yes" to a divorce. When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the source code. I'm here a week now... waiting for a lock... getting softe

  • Accurate (Score:3, Funny)

    by Mishra100 (841814) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @07:14AM (#24656883)

    The article doesn't lie!

    The Duke Nukem episodes ARE going to go on forever.

  • by Zarf (5735) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @07:18AM (#24656909) Journal

    We're very pleased to announce that "Duke Nukem 3D for Xbox LIVE Arcade" will be coming to your Xbox 360 console soon!

    So it's been Duke Nukem 3D [wikipedia.org] we've been waiting for? Or did they change the name from Duke Nukem Forever [wikipedia.org]? Because if you've all been waiting fro Duke Nukem 3D then that's been out for a while and you can all stop holding yer breath. If you are waiting for Duke Nukem Forever.... well then you've still got some waiting to do.

    Oh and by the way. According to these articles McCain [wikipedia.org] is actually a space alien and this article clearly states that Obama [wikipedia.org] is a time-traveler. Don't believe me? Read the article... if you don't how would you know if the article says that or not?

  • by JSDopefish (742020) <joe@@@siegler...net> on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @09:02AM (#24657919) Homepage
    A more minor error in the story is that my name is not Jon. It's Joe.

    -- Joe Siegler,
    Webmaster 3D Realms
  • by jollyreaper (513215) on Tuesday August 19, 2008 @09:48AM (#24658615)

    Tropical storm blowing outside, sky all dark, internet out so I'm having to use neighbor's wifi, and now I thought for a moment Duke Nuke'em Forever was finally coming out. I expected to see another sign of the apocalypse at any moment!

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