Fallout 3 Gets Leaked, Goes Gold 249
Fallout 3 is due to be released in a few weeks, and Bethesda recently announced that all versions of the game have gone gold. They provided the systems specs for the PC release as well. Unfortunately for them, the Xbox 360 version was leaked onto torrent sites almost three weeks early. Bethesda is "looking into" how the game was distributed. In preparation for the launch, game director Todd Howard spoke at length with Gamasutra about the scope of the project, and the differences from their previous games, such as Oblivion. CrispyGamer recently ran a three-part series detailing their four hours of hands-on time with the game. We've previously looked at some gameplay videos for Fallout 3, and discussed the fact that no mod tools will ship with the game.
Re:WTF Were They Thinking Going With Bethesda? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Well one good thing about leaks (Score:5, Informative)
review copy (Score:5, Informative)
Re:WTF Were They Thinking Going With Bethesda? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Well one good thing about leaks (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Well one good thing about leaks (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Gimped For The Xbox 360 (Score:2, Informative)
Getting pirated games running on a 360 involves the kind of hardware modification that is beyond the level of the average user and, in any event, makes the machine unusable on Xbox Live
The Xbox Live part was true for the Xbox, but not the 360.
Re:Gimped For The Xbox 360 (Score:1, Informative)
Not true.
I have a modded 360 and I have a copy of fallout.
Since I've started playing fallout I haven't connected to live because they do search people's accounts to if they played the game (achievements and such.) Before fallout, I've played copies of guitar hero and halo 3 online. (I do own the retail copies of these games.)
Usually this isn't a problem but since it was released weeks early, hiding is the best course of action.
Btw, the game is complete. Achievements, endings, story lines... I don't see anything that's missing.
Re:You need a modded 360 to play it. (Score:3, Informative)
The two I know about are PS3 only:
I'm not sure of others, though I've heard that Resistance 2 is also nearing 50gb (another PS3 exclusive).
The only thing I've heard from the multi-platform crowd is that Oblivion used some more space for better textures on the PS3 version of the game, but beyond that tidbit there was no news about what the size difference was. I for one would be interested in more details on that type of stuff, but very few developers are so open about their games (the reason I know so much about Insomniac games is because of their podcast).
I don't know what flabby crevice you got that from (Score:3, Informative)
Getting pirated games on a 360 involves:
1) Opening the 360.
2) Taking the DVD drive out.
3) Connecting the DVD drive to your PC.
4) Turning on your PC.
5) Running a program on your PC.
6) Turning your PC off.
7) Putting the 360 back together.
That's a "hardware modification"?
Re:PC Users Need To Make Themselves Heard (Score:5, Informative)
Diablo was a Nethack clone (or at least a rogue-alike), not a Gauntlet clone. This was more obvious in the frst Diablo where everything moved at the same speed. D1 was turn-based in early development, really just Nethack with graphics, but at some point the devs saw the light. (Then the devs went on to found Flagship Studios and become the laughing stock of the industry, but that's a different story.)
Re:I don't know what flabby crevice you got that f (Score:4, Informative)
Firmware is just software stored in flash memory. It is not generally considered a hardware mod to upgrade a cell phone or a dvd player or an ipod. Supertusse's definition is the common usage, your definition is not.
Re:Well one good thing about leaks (Score:2, Informative)
Bioshock isn't free of that nonsense on the STEAM version. STEAM clearly labels the games with the extra DRM when they're there.
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Re:Gimped For The Xbox 360 (Score:5, Informative)
No, you have to open the case. There are add-ons like the Xeno Top Gear that insure you only have to open the case once, but open it you must to flash the firmware on the 360.
Contrary to what you're being told, Microsoft DOES ban consoles with modded firmware on Xbox LIVE. Not all consoles all of the time (certain older consoles are unblockable). However, my understanding is they'll kill your Xbox Live Gold account (cancel it with no refund), so you'll want to keep the modded hardware off XBOX Live. This means, as a practical measure, many people will need 2 360s and if you want to play games online, you're probably going to have to buy them.
BTW, The are reasons for banning other than piracy. Some people use firmware hacks to cheat in online games, notably Halo 3.
Re:Gimped For The Xbox 360 (Score:1, Informative)
Getting pirated games running on a 360 involves the kind of hardware modification that is beyond the level of the average user and, in any event, makes the machine unusable on Xbox Live.
False.
A) Flashing the DVD drive on most older Xbox 360s involves nothing more than plugging the drive into the computer. It is beyond the level of the average user, but not beyond the average user's geeky friend who they can convince to do things.
B) Flashed 360s are totally usable on Xbox Live. I think maybe you're thinking of the original Xbox, which indeed had no easy, publicly available way to play burnt games on Live until recently (when what amounts to a backport of the 360 drive hack was released).
There was a period when Microsoft tried to detect flashed firmware and ban it on Live, but it was easily circumvented by new firmwares and resulted in a lot of false positives / bannings, so they've laid off.
Re:Gimped For The Xbox 360 (Score:3, Informative)
There is absolutely no evidence to prove that people who have flashed their drives on their xbox with the latest firmware will recieve a live ban. Hence why no firmware update for almost a year now.
But XBOX Live updates HAVE blocked users with modded firmware in the past. It's just a fact. There haven't been many XBOX Live updates for the past year due to all the effort put in to the new XBOX Live Experience (with avatars and other crap) due out in November. That update will possibly affect current modders and if not, there is noting to prevent Microsoft from pushing out new updates. We certainly can't say that Microsoft has "given up" on
Flashed drives can only play exact replica games not ones moded for cheats.
This is simply wrong. Flashing drives breaks the "locking" that requires you to have an exact boot image. You can boot altered game images for this reason. I've seen modded copies of Halo 3 with different menu screens, so I have to believe you can make other changes. Though, as you pointed out, chipping defeats even the limited anti-cheat measures.
But why chip? Only losers would really be that bothered about cheating online, a flashed drive is free
I'm not recommending cheating in online games, I'm just saying that it's possible. And to be blunt, I'm virtually certain many of the players on the Halo 3 leaderboards are cheating with a combination of mod chips and XFPS keyboard/mouse adapters.
And I point out in my other posts, there are good reasons to go with a chip. A chip is a lot cheaper than a new console if yours gets banned.