Eurogamer reports on an announcement from Mythic CEO Mark Jacobs regarding the future of Warhammer Online. Jacobs said the first big content patch will be coming in December, and it will contain two new classes, the Black Guard and the Knight of the Blazing Sun. These are two of the four classes lost to the pre-launch content cuts. A number of other changes are on their way as well.
"The Knight of the Blazing Sun is described as a tactical leader using Battlefield Commands, while the Black Guard is simply 'the embodiment of hatred and disdain.' The arrival of the two new careers will mean that every race in the game has a damage-taking tanking archetype. Of the originally planned careers, only the Dwarf Hammerer and Greenskin Choppa, both melee damage-dealers, will remain on the cutting room floor."
Warhammer is definitely a good game, no doubt about it. I preordered, played open beta, and was right there at release. Judging by my short experience in open beta, I figured the game was going to be a keeper. But there's one huge problem with the game, that you don't really discover until you've been playing a few weeks/months. There comes a day when you just want to take a break from the leveling/questing/PvP and do some lazy work.. like crafting, fishing, or shoot the bull in town with a few dozen other
WAR addresses everything I didn't like about WOW. You can queue for Battlegrounds (scenarios) anywhere. When you are done, you are returned to where you left off. You can hook up with random people and do public quests easilly and quickly. These are basically uninstanced mini-dungeons. Gold farming isn't very useful, since I have yet to find a use for all the gold I have collected (still level 18 though). They also seem to be stamping down on the gold sellers pretty hard. You get comparable XP for PVE and PVP. Its NOT a giagantic time-sink, but its fun to play. Tactics and skill matter much more than gear. In PVP areas and battlegrounds, levels are boosted for low-level characters so skill can matter more than level.
The only things I don't like are there seem to be too many classes. Since I haven't played all of them, I can't look at a character and always tell what it is, much less know their weaknesses. I also wish I could play level 1-10 PVP scenario maps after level 10. Some of these maps make me want to keep creating characters just to play them. The game lacks a little polish, and character animations seem low quality for the amount of CPU/GPU power my system has. Some of this I expect to be corrected in time. Its still a very new game.
1.Well, first of all, you have to realize that everyone has different tastes. So what someone likes, someone else might hate, and viceversa.
So for some people it apparently was all that, especially, I gather, those whose online life revolved around PvP. For me it most certainly didn't. I don't find it to be a horrible game, mind you, but it did feel unfinished and... well, it _is_ a PvP game, no matter how much the devs and publisher insist that PvP is purely optional. _Technically_ it is, but it's about on
For a long time I wished that MMOs didn't have that pesky "other person" aspect too!, it's a good thing I found diablo
"Other person" doesn't necessarily mean PvP. There _are_ plenty of _cooperative_ things to do. So if you can conceive any other interaction with people than hitting them upside the head, well, that's your shortcoming, not mine.
You suck so hard for authoritatively talking about "needing to PvP" in War, and then you go through the rest of the post professing how you really know nothing about i
I may not be the original poster to this, Anonymous Coward, but I can speak authoritatively on the PVP/PVE subject. I personally hate PVP. I think it is a drag on MMORPG. The people who favor PVP are ususally the childish asshats on XBox Live with the foul mouths and teabaging opponents in Halo.
How can I say this? Well, I have tried PVP. I playtested not only WoW (both expansions) but also EQ2, LOTRO, and WAR. I have been playing MMORPGs pretty much since the begining.
Depends on what you are looking for in "PvE". Yes, you can go fight NPC mobs. But then, you can do that in virtually ever PC game ever made that has combat. If you're looking for real MMO PvE content, it's pretty thin in WAR. There's only a handful of dungeons, and from what I could tell in my stint in the game, not many people bother with them since the best gear is from PvP anyway. Good luck finding a group for one. As for PQs, sure there's about 2-3 per pairing, per chapter. So once you get to the final
So, just to be clear, you are looking for raids where you fight the same mobs alongside the same guildies week after week? But at the same time you think WAR will somehow get boring for you?
You and I have different levels of boredeom I guess. Raiding in WoW was tedium on a level I never felt even at my day job, with rewards that were even less certain (I always get paid as a programmer, much less so as a priest). If you honestly think WoW is fun, and you're not just caught up in the keep-up-with-the-Joneses
Wow came out with 3 level 70 dungeons, 1 raid. Not all that much pve endgame there either at the start.
Most people are still leveling in warhammer, and endgame pvp isn't just altdorf, it's all 3 rvr endzones, THEN the siege of altdorf/destruction city. and 3 "bg's" per tier, though currently there seems to be a big preference to 1 specific one per tier.
Don't get me wrong, i love the polish of wow, still play it and still enjoy it. Warhammer does a lot right, and if they keep up the patching frenzy currently
"the Black Guard and the Knight of the Blazing Sun"
If my 13 year old brother was in charge of making up names for a Warhammerclass it would probably be named like these two. The names lack all forms of inspiration(other than making wads of cash ofcourse).
Warhammer has been around for more than 20 years. That would be why they sound cliche. They are cliche due to being ripped off by Blizzard and others for all that time.
and have a legion of Space Marines from the Iron Hand, with a leader called Ferrous Manus? What's next, is the leader of the first company called bigus dickus?
Doubt it. For a bunch of designer soliders who's mission in life is to die as quickly as possible, a penis would just be a tiny unnecessary vestigial organ at best.:)
As opposed to, say: "Paladin", "Warrior", "Rogue", "Mage", "Warlock", "Shaman", "Priest", "Hunter" and "Druid"? Class names like those tend to scream out "Creative Thinktank!"
I'm with you there. That's also one of the things I liked about City of Heroes. One of my main characters there is a Tanker. Care to guess what he does?
"Perhaps the biggest impact on many players' quality of life will come from free server transfers from select high- or low-population servers to select mid-population ones."
I hope the patch also raises the target server population somewhat. I like the game and the open RvR but usually it's five-vs-five or less on the open RvR battlefield. I'd like to see the open RvR havinglarger battles than the scenarios. For anyone not playing Warhammer, open RvR is pvp zones that have capturable assets and quests in them and blend nicely with the regular PvE zones and the game world in general. Scenarios are instanced battles in small isolated areas not accessible from the rest of the game world.
I was fighting 20v20 battles in tier 2. What tier are you at? When the majority of the game's population has hit max level, it's going to be nonstop carnage.
i've been in battles in the tier 3 map RvR with 50+ per side that lasted for hours, seen others with 100+ of one side or the other come rampaging through a fortress, and otherwise had some great fun doing nothing but RvR scenarios for 5 levels (though tor anroc does get a tad repetative after the millionth time). i'm about to head into tier 4 and am looking forward to invading a capitol city.
if 5 vs 5 is the best your server can come up with, i suggest you take the free server transfer when its offered.
Warhamemr is the choice I understand the least though, I can see why people get addicted to the item hording in World of Warcraft because I did quite a bit of that myself in Diablo 1&2 and I can see why a ranked Arena system is fun. But Warhammer? I played DAOC back in the day and while I had fun it only lasted me two months before I got completely bored with the fact that nothing my faction ever did mattered.
You could use the same reasoning to ask why people play Team Fortress 2 or Counterstrike consi
I hope the blazing sun knight and blackguard bring something unique. Right now, the tanking classes play a lot the same. I am, however, pleased with how they're implemented for PVP. Generally, tanks in pvp can be safely ignored because they do little damage as a tradeoff for being so durable. In WAR, it seems that the longer you leave a tank alive, the more powerful it gets.
His name is aussie_a. aussie as in down under, then "a". He is the "a" down under. Anyone who has purposefully named themselves (for all intents and purposes) "asshole" is really only to be expected to make prickish comments.
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People kept saying WoW = Waiting on Warhammer. I'd just like to know now that warhammer online has been out for a bit, was it true?
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Warhammer is definitely a good game, no doubt about it. I preordered, played open beta, and was right there at release. Judging by my short experience in open beta, I figured the game was going to be a keeper. But there's one huge problem with the game, that you don't really discover until you've been playing a few weeks/months. There comes a day when you just want to take a break from the leveling/questing/PvP and do some lazy work.. like crafting, fishing, or shoot the bull in town with a few dozen other
Everything I hated about WoW (Score:5, Informative)
The only things I don't like are there seem to be too many classes. Since I haven't played all of them, I can't look at a character and always tell what it is, much less know their weaknesses. I also wish I could play level 1-10 PVP scenario maps after level 10. Some of these maps make me want to keep creating characters just to play them. The game lacks a little polish, and character animations seem low quality for the amount of CPU/GPU power my system has. Some of this I expect to be corrected in time. Its still a very new game.
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YMMV (Score:3, Informative)
1.Well, first of all, you have to realize that everyone has different tastes. So what someone likes, someone else might hate, and viceversa.
So for some people it apparently was all that, especially, I gather, those whose online life revolved around PvP. For me it most certainly didn't. I don't find it to be a horrible game, mind you, but it did feel unfinished and... well, it _is_ a PvP game, no matter how much the devs and publisher insist that PvP is purely optional. _Technically_ it is, but it's about on
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"Other person" doesn't necessarily mean PvP. There _are_ plenty of _cooperative_ things to do. So if you can conceive any other interaction with people than hitting them upside the head, well, that's your shortcoming, not mine.
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I may not be the original poster to this, Anonymous Coward, but I can speak authoritatively on the PVP/PVE subject. I personally hate PVP. I think it is a drag on MMORPG. The people who favor PVP are ususally the childish asshats on XBox Live with the foul mouths and teabaging opponents in Halo.
How can I say this? Well, I have tried PVP. I playtested not only WoW (both expansions) but also EQ2, LOTRO, and WAR. I have been playing MMORPGs pretty much since the begining.
You do need to be a PVPer in WAR to do
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Depends on what you are looking for in "PvE". Yes, you can go fight NPC mobs. But then, you can do that in virtually ever PC game ever made that has combat. If you're looking for real MMO PvE content, it's pretty thin in WAR. There's only a handful of dungeons, and from what I could tell in my stint in the game, not many people bother with them since the best gear is from PvP anyway. Good luck finding a group for one. As for PQs, sure there's about 2-3 per pairing, per chapter. So once you get to the final
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Wow came out with 3 level 70 dungeons, 1 raid. Not all that much pve endgame there either at the start.
Most people are still leveling in warhammer, and endgame pvp isn't just altdorf, it's all 3 rvr endzones, THEN the siege of altdorf/destruction city. and 3 "bg's" per tier, though currently there seems to be a big preference to 1 specific one per tier.
Don't get me wrong, i love the polish of wow, still play it and still enjoy it. Warhammer does a lot right, and if they keep up the patching frenzy currently
Wow (Score:2, Insightful)
"the Black Guard and the Knight of the Blazing Sun"
If my 13 year old brother was in charge of making up names for a Warhammerclass it would probably be named like these two. The names lack all forms of inspiration(other than making wads of cash ofcourse).
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But then I gank shit and I stop caring. ^_^
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I thought cheese was one of the main points of Warhammer...
did you play 40K? (Score:3, Funny)
and have a legion of Space Marines from the Iron Hand, with a leader called Ferrous Manus? What's next, is the leader of the first company called bigus dickus?
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Whats wrong with Bigus Dickus? I have a very good friend in Rome named Bigus Dickus.
Wait until Bigus Dickus hears about this.
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I never considered buying PA gear until they made this a hoodie. If you don't know a thing about Warhammer, don't talk about it.
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The names lack all forms of inspiration
As opposed to, say: "Paladin", "Warrior", "Rogue", "Mage", "Warlock", "Shaman", "Priest", "Hunter" and "Druid"? Class names like those tend to scream out "Creative Thinktank!"
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I'm with you there. That's also one of the things I liked about City of Heroes. One of my main characters there is a Tanker. Care to guess what he does?
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Hm. My guess is that he drinks a LOT of liquid, and then runs out to where other people need a drink and fills them up with... liquid.
I'll just shut up now.
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If I see a Knight of the Blazing Sun, is that a tank, a melee DPS class, a paladin, or what? Does it heal? Does it cast spells?
SadReality = replace(Parent Post,"Knight of the Blazing Sun","World of Warcraft Paladin")
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FTW, just call me Inkie.
Panzerfaust
53rd lvl Dark Elf Necromancer
Veeshan server
Errr... Sorry.
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Mr. T (Score:1)
Damn, misread the title (Score:1)
For some reason I saw "Lego Warhammer Patch"...
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I hope the patch also raises the target server population somewhat. I like the game and the open RvR but usually it's five-vs-five or less on the open RvR battlefield. I'd like to see the open RvR havinglarger battles than the scenarios. For anyone not playing Warhammer, open RvR is pvp zones that have capturable assets and quests in them and blend nicely with the regular PvE zones and the game world in general. Scenarios are instanced battles in small isolated areas not accessible from the rest of the game world.
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You need a different server - most Open RvR skirmishes I've been in involve 10-15 people a side.
Does depend on the map though, tier 1 Chaos/Order is great as it's dense, tier 1 Elves is too sparse.
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I was fighting 20v20 battles in tier 2. What tier are you at? When the majority of the game's population has hit max level, it's going to be nonstop carnage.
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i've been in battles in the tier 3 map RvR with 50+ per side that lasted for hours, seen others with 100+ of one side or the other come rampaging through a fortress, and otherwise had some great fun doing nothing but RvR scenarios for 5 levels (though tor anroc does get a tad repetative after the millionth time). i'm about to head into tier 4 and am looking forward to invading a capitol city.
if 5 vs 5 is the best your server can come up with, i suggest you take the free server transfer when its offered.
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You could use the same reasoning to ask why people play Team Fortress 2 or Counterstrike consi
Tanking (Score:2)
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His name is aussie_a. aussie as in down under, then "a". He is the "a" down under. Anyone who has purposefully named themselves (for all intents and purposes) "asshole" is really only to be expected to make prickish comments.
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As of my post no-one had posted.