Rock Band Creators Hit With Class Action Lawsuit 79
GameCyteSean writes "GameCyte is reporting that Harmonix, EA, MTV and Viacom have been targeted by a class action lawsuit. Customers allege that the companies knowingly shipped defective bass drum pedals for the music game Rock Band, then exploited customers' necessity for replacements by having the game's hardware warranty extension expire just as the sequel, Rock Band 2 — a game with improved pedals — was scheduled to release."
I wonder if we'll see a similar suit against Neversoft and Activision over the equipment problems related to the Guitar Hero World Tour launch.
Re:Pot, Kettle, Blackness (Score:4, Informative)
This has nothing to do with the pot calling the kettle black. That would be, to use your example, if Ford was filing a lawsuit against Harmonix because of mental anguish due to broken base pedals and warranty issues.
I don't see that happening anytime soon for some reason...
Re:GH Lawsuit? Please (Score:2, Informative)
So I bought a copy of guitar hero WT with just the guitar, swapped out mine for the new one, then returned it.
The new guitar has a strummer that is squeakier than the guitar I own for Guitar Hero, the original PS2 game. The touch sensor is also so sensitive that just holding my hand an inch from it sets it off. I'll probably have to return it again, or live with the issues and oil the strummer myself.
But is it worth suing them? I do think they need to pay for their customers RMAs, at the cost of loss profits.
Re:GH Lawsuit? Please (Score:4, Informative)
So I bought a copy of guitar hero WT with just the guitar, swapped out mine for the new one, then returned it.
Congratulations! You have committed fraud.
Re:Wait, what? (Score:4, Informative)
The plastic pedals on my Logitech Driving Force GT can be stamped on. I stamp on them regularly (though not every time, I modulate when required). The pedals on my previous wheel, a Logitech GT Force, were also plastic. They got stamped on for seven years. You can make stamp-on-able things out of plastic, you just need enough of the right sort of plastic in the right places. Metal isn't the answer, you can make weak shit out of metal too, the answer is proper design.
Re:Pot, Kettle, Blackness (Score:1, Informative)
I am a nerd who owns a non-nerdy business (a house cleaning company) and we buy used Ford Tempos and Mercury Topazes for our cleaning staff to use. They are cheap, based on standard parts across many years of the car's models (and the Topaz and Tempo are nearly identical in every way), and they are easy to work on and fix. They are like "standard PCs".
Got into an accident with one of them recently, and no mechanics in my town would even give me an estimate because they didn't feel it was worth fixing. So I bought another one for $700 and sold the broken one to the guy who hit us.
I as well have always heard of these complaints but I have been treated very well with these particular Fords. I'm on my fifth or sixth Tempo in my life (parents drove them as well), and I've found that like any car, if you look after them they will look after you.
Re:GH Lawsuit? Please (Score:5, Informative)
Looking past the fact that two items are clearly not identical if one of them is defective. . .
When you "return" something that means that you are "returning" it. Meaning that you are giving back what you got. If you "return" something else, you are misrepresenting it, and obviously it is fraud.
Re:GH Lawsuit? Please (Score:2, Informative)
two I wasn't misrepresenting it by returning it and saying it was defective. Its not fraud at all. It literally costs the store nothing to return defective merchandise, which this was. They do RMAs all the time, they just stick it on the truck that does their loads when it heads back to the warehouse. The supplier reimburses the store (as they should) or gives it a replacement.
In fact, literally the box that the guitar comes in for the band kit is identical to the box that comes in the guitar bundle. All they do is stick one box inside another box for the bundle, then put a cheapo graphic that slides off on top of it. The packaging around the guitar itself isn't even sealed, you could literally open the package in store, inspect the guitar, then put it back and it wouldn't be any different than one straight from the factory.
Based on your logic, if I bought guitar bundles of GH:WT, tried both guitars out and found one defective, then got confused as to which one went to which packaging, returned one the defective one, then I was committing fraud. Or if I bought a vase and a plate together at a store, then bought another vase that was the same, then had one of them go defective and returned it, I was committing fraud.
I think you need to step back and realize your just trying hard to prove your better than someone else or that someone else is wrong and you are right. At least that is how it comes off.