Bethesda Announces New Fallout Game For 2010 254
On Monday Bethesda announced a new title in the popular Fallout series called New Vegas, set for release sometime in 2010. It's planned for the PC, Xbox 360, and PS3. They said it wasn't a sequel to the highly-acclaimed Fallout 3, but rather a brand new game set in the same universe, though they confirmed that it will be similar in style to Fallout 3. The new game will be developed by Obsidian Entertainment, a studio containing members of the original Fallout team, which Bethesda's Pete Hines discussed in an interview with Shacknews. The Fallout series also made headlines earlier this week when Bethesda trademarked the name for TV and film.
Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
As long as they remove the level cap.
Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
Good luck winning over the PS3 owners after shafting them with the "exclusive" 360 and PC downloadable content. Yeah, I want to go out and pay the same amount for a Bethesda game as another player, and then get less for my money.
Screw em.
If the don't change the gameplay... (Score:4, Insightful)
I think I'll pass. Not that I didn't enjoed Fallout 3, simply Im getting bored of those RPG games in which the main plot is about 10-20 hours long, and the subplots about 200. Im tired of little missions as "give this letter to X" or "bring me a piece of Y and I get you a powerfull gun" without any connection with the real mission. I think the last game I played that got the point on that missions was Gothic 2, where you know the real story after a long gameplay and most little missions was backgrounded by the election of your classes.
Yes, I know creating plots its the hardest part of a game and you, as a developer, don't want to throw away the efforts you put on creating missions just to see the gamer picking up a path and ignoring 4/5 of the story. But that's the way if you want people replaying and enjoying again your game.
BTW, why in most games you're limited by what the writers consider is the "real story"? You alwasy have to make the election between being 'good' or 'bad' with other NPCs, but most of time if you chose the 'bad' way you lose many subplots and hence the posibility of level up.
Oh dear god... (Score:5, Insightful)
The Fallout series also made headlines earlier this week when Bethesda trademarked the name for TV and film.
Please let that be so Uwe Boll can't get hold of it.
Re:Great! (Score:1, Insightful)
as opposed to paying 3-4 times as much (compared to the 360) for the games console itself? If "value for money" was your aim, you shouldnt have got the PS3 anyway.
Re:Great! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:If the don't change the gameplay... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is sort of the inherent problem.
A clever evil person takes nearly everything someone has, but leaves them enough to survive so they can make more stuff for them to take later.
In video games, evil basically translates to "killing everything I see for the pure psychopathic joy of it. There's almost never any real quality evil going on anymore, you either raze the village to the ground, or you save it from danger. There's no depth.
Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
In addition, if you want the DLC you'll have to subscribe to Xbox Live which is around $50 a year
You can purchase DLC with a free Xbox Live Silver account. Most people won't need WiFi for a system that's sitting in the same place all the time, and to my knowledge the PS3 lacks the 360's streaming movie service.
Re:Great! (Score:1, Insightful)
Right there with ya, man. There's no business reason why Microsoft shouldn't go around one-upping Sony, but at least it would *feel* better to us gamers if it had been presented as "Buy this for Xbox to get exclusive content" instead of "Finished the game? Loved it? Well here, we'll give you some more of it -- unless you bought it for PS3, your game is over." The fact that we didn't find out until after we had bought the game that we had the inferior version made it feel like something that was done to us rather than something we chose to do.
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
The Older You Get (Score:5, Insightful)
The older you get, the more everything starts looking the same...
There are only so many plots:
Man vs Man
Man vs Nature
Man vs Self
and the concept of Tragedy and Comedy.
At the very core of storytelling there are only so many stories, no matter how you decorate them. Thus it becomes an exercise in look at the decorations of a plot that makes the story enjoyable. The only thing remotely well written was the Dunwich building, the Wasteland Guide, and the android quests. The rest was damn near disposable but I'll give kudos to the Nuka-Cola Challenge walkthrough. The fake history was well written. The main quest was terrible....
Re:The Older You Get (Score:5, Insightful)
I was going to type a reply, but the older you get the more all words start to look the same.
Abstract anything far enough up and you can dismiss it. Takes all the fun out of it though.
Re:Great! (Score:2, Insightful)
Technically you get the same for your money.
If you buy the game for Xbox 360 or PS3 at retail, you end up with the same game.
Okay, you don't get the option of the content, but that costs extra money that you're not paying in the first place.
What about OSX ports?! (Score:1, Insightful)
Fed up with dual-booting from OSX to Windoze to be able to play Fallout 3, come on Aspyr and MacSoft, get the rights to port the Fallout games!
Re:er... (Score:3, Insightful)
Errr... WHY? I mean, what you're basically saying is "I want the exact same games I played years ago, but prettier."
Fallout 3 is fine in a 3D environment. It builds a more believable world. Being first person doesn't somehow diminish anything. Just look at the Metroid series when it jumped to a first person view. Neither are anything like the standard FPS du jour. They're both more open ended and exploration and detail oriented.
Stop viewing older games through the rose-tinted nostalgia glasses and realize some change is good.
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah I think the one that will raise the level cap and change the ending is Broken Steel which is the one after The Pitt. Supposed to come out the end of this month or sometime next month. Personally I'm starting to suspect that they made the ending like that just to make you buy the expansions. I'm holding out for the gold version whenever it comes out.
Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)
This was my take on the ending....
The chamber is filled with radiation, oh noes!
I equip an advanced radiation suit and pop a Rad-X. Wewt I have 85% rad resist.
I go into the chamber, I'm taking in about 2-3 rads/sec. Cool, that gives me about 5.5 minutes without using any Radaway. I go in, it takes me about 30 seconds to enter the code and start project purity.
Oh no, I'm passing out from radiation. WTF? I have 4.5-5 minutes left before I DIE from radiation poisoning, and I haven't even suffered the first level of radiation poisoning. I'm incapable of taking the 10 seconds to turn around an walk back into the airlock so I can escape the chamber? WTF?
Re:not Bethesda, Obsidian (Score:4, Insightful)
To me NWN2 LOOKED fantastic.
I might never know though, since on release it was unplayable due to stability and gameplay bugs.
Consider me less than enthused about Obsidian's involvement.
Re:Have the bugs been fixed on the old one yet? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Great! [SPOILER] (Score:3, Insightful)
Super Mutants are just resistant to radiation. Ghouls are resistant and healed by it.
So let's look at all your companion, Fawkes is a Super Muttie and highly resistant to radiation, Sergeant RL-3 is a robot and unaffected by it. Charon is a ghoul and healed by it. Butch, Star Paladin Cross, and Jericho are all humans and reasonably so would not be willing to die. Clover is also a human and would die, but she has a slave collar so she should listen to your orders. Also, I like dogs too much to try to get Dogmeat to do it.
Fawkes: I'm sorry, my companion, but no. We all have our own destinies, and yours culminates here. I would not rob you of that.
Sergeant RL-3: Soldier, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. This is your fight! You gotta finish what your daddy started! Stand strong and get your ass in there!
Charon: You and I both know that's not going to happen. I've saved your sorry ass enough. This one's all you.
Butch: That chamber? Right there? With all the radiation? Man, no way. I'll end up dead. Or worse. I could be one of them Ghouls! Ain't gonna happen.
Star Paladin Cross: My friend... It's been my pleasure accompanying you, but we both know this is your fight to finish. Stay strong, and honor your father's memory.
Clover: Honey, you are out of your mind if you think I'm going in there. Find yourself another guinea pig.
Jericho: Fuck that. Do your own dirty work.
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
And isn't it handy that for people who *do* happen to want WiFi on their 360, they can then purchase a WiFi adaptor.
What if I want to purchase a PS3 without paying for any built-in wifi bits?
Re:Great! [SPOILER] (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, that one annoyed me, too. A lot.
The first time through, I was there with Fawkes. Here's a character who's one most important trait, on which part of the story is dependent, is being able to survive very strong radiation.
He leaves you, and comes back right before the end game, when you end up facing very strong radiation.
It's like someone pulling Checkov's gun off the mantle then throwing it away and ending with a fistfight.
Star Paladin Cross, on the other hand, will go into the radiation for you and die. The game still ends, but the voiceover is slightly different.
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Great! (Score:2, Insightful)
When will you 360 owners realize that MGS4 is not coming out for the 360?
designers (Score:3, Insightful)
Chris Avellone is head of Alpha Protocol, so it's doubtful he'd be able to join the team until later (AP is due in October). For those that don't know, Chris joined around the time the Troika team left (there were four people that left to form it as I recall, but the core were Tim Cain [Carbine], Leonard Boyarsky [Blizzard], and Jason D. Anderson [Interplay]) and is mostly known for creating the timeline and history published as the Fallout Bible. Feargus runs Obsidian, so I'm not sure how much time he has to work with the teams.
I've heard these three names:
John R. Gonzalez Lead Creative Designer
J. E. Sawyer Lead Designer (was Van Buren lead)
Scott Everts (did maps for Fallout 1 and 2)
Re:Great! (Score:2, Insightful)
and to my knowledge the PS3 lacks the 360's streaming movie service.
We have www.youtube/tv from the browser, and youtube recently added movies and tv shows, although I am not sure they are allowing them to be shown on the PS3. If they do, we will have high-def video streaming of movies and tv shows in a format built for TV, as well as Hulu and so forth.
Also, don't underestimate how nice it is to be able to set up the PS3 in any room in the house, or to quickly set it up online at a friends house... I love the WiFi, and I am glad they added it. Less-trippy.
Let's hope (Score:2, Insightful)