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PS3-Compatible Phone Coming In October 92

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SpuriousLogic sends along this quote from CVG: 'You may remember reports of Sony's flashy Aino phone earlier this year which can, among other things, connect to a PS3 via Remote Play, giving you full access to your XMB through its tiny screen. Well, Sony's revealed that the Aino is now just weeks away from release in October, and spewed all the details prospective buyers need to know about the device. ... Remote Play with Aino lets you turn your PS3 on and off, browse and control the XMB and access the internet browser from anywhere in the world. Remote Play also lets you control and access the hard drive's media content on the PS3 using the built-in WiFi or 3G connections via Aino. You can also access the PlayStation Store via Remote Play or chat with friends via the PlayStation Network. It is also possible to buy and download a new game from the Store via Aino so it is ready and waiting for you when you get home.'
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PS3-Compatible Phone Coming in October

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  • by joeflies (529536) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @09:18PM (#29280553)
    such as "Phone with PS3 Remote Control Coming in October". Saying it's PS3-compatible would lead one to think that it runs PS3 software.
    • by iknowcss (937215) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @11:45PM (#29281413) Homepage
      Yes, but the ambiguity instils curiosity, and curiosity brings clicks.
      • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        and the clicks bring "those fuckers overhyped their product and wasted my time, i better make it a point to never buy one for any reason"
      • by berwiki (989827)
        i thought you said 'chicks' and got excited for a moment.
    • by elrous0 (869638) *
      I just wish Sony would put equal effort into replacing the godawful regular PS3 remote. It's slow, it's not backlit, and the lack of IR input on the PS3 means you can't replace it with a universal remote. That thing drove me so crazy I finally replaced my PS3 with a stand-alone blu-ray player just so I didn't have to break out a flashlight every time I wanted to watch a blu-ray.
      • by Gravatron (716477)
        Logitech put out an IR adapter for their harmony that converts the IR signal to bluetooth commands. It's quite nifty.
    • What an awful comment to get a +5. It is substantially more than a remote. Your ps3 becomes a file server for your phone, so you can access the ps3 content from "anywhere in the world". That's not the most ground-breaking thing in the world, but it's kind of a big deal.

  • nice marketing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by schnikies79 (788746) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:25PM (#29280975)

    it's sounds a little.. whats the word... pointless!

    • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      No, this is perfect for gamers who have no friends to call.

    • it's sounds a little.. whats the word... pointless!

      What's pointless about it? Sounds to me as if you can burn through kilowatts and increase your power bill, without even being home!

    • It's a prelude to the release of Prank call hero! You score points by trying to prank call famous stars. Extra points if you do jail time because you've gone too far and done something illegal.

  • Ok, so when can I download the saved videos/music that I personally copied from my own server back OFF of the PS3?!?
    • In Japanese-but-headed-by-Americans-and-made-in-China entertainment conglomerate, MagicGate DRM controls you!
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      You clearly don't own a PS3 and have never used one, otherwise you'd know that copying stuff off it is as easy as plugging in a USB stick/HDD and selecting copy from the menu. This includes films and television programmes recorded from television with TVTime.

      • I *DO* own a PS3, but would like to transfer things back over the NETWORK, just like I did to transfer it TO the device.

        Note how I used the word "DOWNLOAD" and not "TRANSFER"? Sorry if the rest of slashdot doesn't understand the definition of half the words they use, but I chose my words carefully.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by supernova_hq (1014429)
      To what-ever moderator that modded me Troll, if you have read my post properly, you would have noticed the world "DOWNLOAD" as in "NETWORK DOWNLOAD"! I know how to transfer to a freaking USB drive, but that doesn't work very well when I have videos over 4.5 GB and my largest USB device is only 2 GB.

      The PS3 supports DOWNLOADING from the network, why not the other way around?!?
      • by DRACO- (175113)

        Likely answer, the media player api on your windows machine lacks the ability be GIVEN files so Sony did not mis-inform you by placing a link that says transfer so you wouldnt think, oh I'm gonna put this back now and find that media player doesnt work that way.

  • by Lorienthin (1439867) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:31PM (#29281005)
    Though I am not really one to be sitting on the couch texting/talking on the phone, I can see that the targeted audience would actually quite enjoy this. Personally, my coffee table is pretty pack as it is, and having one less remote/controller there could indeed be a boon. One feature I think would be nice, and maybe it is not too far off in the future, would be to have your send button on your cell phone tieable to the pause button on the remote. This way, if someone calls, you could just answer the phone, and your movie would pause.
    • by JustOK (667959)

      you'd actually have to press the send button? Sounds like a lotta work.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      One feature I think would be nice, and maybe it is not too far off in the future, would be to have your send button on your cell phone tieable to the pause button on the remote. This way, if someone calls, you could just answer the phone, and your movie would pause.

      I'm glad I'm not this lazy.

    • Actually I can do something fairly similar with an XDA universal phone. The phone has a small backlit querty keyboard and a 640x480 resolution touch screen

      with a little software
      http://mobilesrc.com/MobileRemote.aspx [mobilesrc.com]

      it becomes a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, working to control my mythtv frontend or a projector or... well anywhere and anything I want to use it for really, its a mouse and keyboard but pocket sized.

      Other people might find it useful for windows media centre.

      • by PReDiToR (687141)
        I notice it's WM 6 only, which ROM are you running on your Uni?

        Been advocating this phone since it came out. Absolutely fantastic, just wish HTC weren't so far in MS's pocket, we could have had Linux on it since day 1.

        I hate Sony as much as anyone here but I do own a PS3. Could do with a simple BT keyboard for it and this seems ideal, if it works with it.
  • "Aino big thing"?.

    The communicating and use of the browser seem a little strange, seeing as you've got a phone in your hands, but a few of the other features like the remote game download are somewhat interesting.
  • I'd rather have... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by popo (107611) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:37PM (#29281045) Homepage

    I'd rather have a phone that plays PS1 games than a phone that talks to my PS3.

    You'd think someone would realize that there's an instant bestseller with any handheld version of a past (non-handheld) console ...

    • Yeah! Sony's wasting their time with this stuff when they should instead allow the PSP to play PS1 games!

      Oh wait, the PSP has been able to play PS1 games for years now, and can even move saved games between the PS3 and PSP... and if you put a PS1 disc into the PS3, you can use the same Remote Play program to play the PS1 game, or you can just buy it again as a digital download from the Playstation Store...

      You'd think someone would look to see if their suggestion had already been taken care of years ag
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by popo (107611)

        Heh... I'm glad you don't work in product development. If you call the PSP's "ability" to (sometimes) run games that have been ripped and converted, or run (at reduced framerate and with bugs) through an emulator a "feature", well then... your market would be very small...

        • by Fallen Seraph (808728) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @11:06PM (#29281213)
          Ummm, I hate to break it to you, but your derision of it for running through an emulator is kind of absurd, since there's no real alternative to that when you're moving to such massively different scales in size, and are using an entirely different media. you want the PSP to be CD player sized to accommodate your old discs so they won't be "ripped and converted"? That aside, the PS3's RemotePlay of PS1 games technically runs the original disc, on the original PS1 chip, and just streams it over the network to the PSP... So no ripping, conversion, or even emulation (well, depending on which PS3 you have. Some of them do have to emulate it, but I happen to have one of the models which doesn't). Though coming back to the ripped, converted, or emulated PS1 games, what are you expecting from backward compatibility? The 360 can't play the entire Xbox library either, and the Wii's virtual console is essentially nothing more than a bunch of licensed emulators and ROMs. So... what was your complaint again?
    • by evilviper (135110)

      You'd think someone would realize that there's an instant bestseller with any handheld version of a past (non-handheld) console ...

      Sega thought so... Hence the symbol of all failure that is the Nomad...

    • by Frogbert (589961)

      Well the PS3 allows you to play PS1 games over remote play. So this phone does pretty much exactly what you say.

    • by Toonol (1057698)
      Hell, given an either-or choice, I'd probably rather have a PS1 than a PS3. I'd DEFINITELY prefer a PS2 over a PS3. Over a 360, too... I'm an agnostic hater.
    • by jgtg32a (1173373)
      My iPhone does kinda technically, works just fine for turn based RPGs
  • by Kainaw (676073) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:44PM (#29281081) Homepage Journal

    Remote "play" is a misnomer. You cannot "play". The same thing already exists with the PSP. You can poke around your PS3 remotely, but can't play games (and you can't even watch a DVD or BluRay movie). If Sony wants to push this, they need to turn Remote Play into Remote PLAY, not Remote Browse. Then, they have a market. You still working on Ziamat on FFXII and need to take a bathroom break? Grab your phone (or PSP) and continue playing remotely. No problem.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Fallen Seraph (808728)
      You CAN play PS1 games on the PS3 through the PSP. Additionally, you can in theory play PS3 games through the PSP too, but the issue is that the controls of the PSP are different than the PS3 controller, so you'd be missing 4 keys right off the bat (R2, R3, L2, ad L3), as well as the second analog stick. Most PS1 games are made for the original PS1 controller though, which didn't have any analogue sticks. As such, you can bind the D-Pad to the PSP's analog stick and use the D-Pad as R2 and L2, or keep the D
      • by adolf (21054)

        The controller is an issue, for sure, but is it the only issue? I'm not aware of anyone who posts around these parts with enough background knowledge to say for sure.

        There are a few PS3 games which work with Remote Play. "Eden" is one such game that I happen to have, and it works well enough with the PSP and remote play.

        • You can play the entire PS3 game Lair via RemotePlay on the PSP. Or you could, if it had more buttons. It works, you just can't do certain necessary actions due to this limitation.

          All RemotePlay is is essentially a streaming video that sends your controller movements back to the PS3. Running a PS3 game would be no different than running a PS1 game, or playing a video from the video library. It's all just a downscaled video being sent. The PS3 does all the processing on its end.
      • BlazBlue is RemotePlay compatible.

        You can't play BB on a pad, muchless a PSP, but it's compatible.

        (Fighting games on pads? ew. Might as well play FlightSim with a mouse and keyboard)

      • by Narishma (822073)

        I love it when factually incorrect posts get modded informative...

    • by Samah (729132)

      You still working on Ziamat on FFXII and need to take a bathroom break? Grab your phone (or PSP) and continue playing remotely. No problem.

      Or they could just be like Cartman in the WoW South Park episode...

      MOM!
      BATHROOM!

  • Slashvertisment (Score:3, Insightful)

    by kalayq (827594) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:45PM (#29281089)

    Need I say more?

  • by StreetStealth (980200) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:48PM (#29281117) Journal

    This is a feature that could indeed be convenient, but will it sell a phone? There's a vast number of criteria on which to base a phone choice, and a nice-but-not-life-changing feature like this seems like an extremely tough sell by itself.

    Here's what I think Sony should have done (and could still do): instead of building a phone with this feature, build a protocol with the feature. License it out to third parties, and watch as various ecosystems pick it up. Build, or license someone to build, something on Symbian, BREW, WinMo, or how about the obvious: an iPhone app?

    A protocol would open the doors to a bona-fide advancement in Sony's gaming platform. A single phone is just an interesting sideshow.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Sockatume (732728)

      I think that's a worthy lesson to all mobile phone manufacturers, especially ones like Nokia and SE. There is no point adding Super Feature X to one handset when you release eight thousand handsets per year. Nobody is going to use the bloody feature because it's a complete dice-roll as to whether the handset is going to be a success.

    • This sort of thing seems to be how Sony-Ericsson rolls. They've churned out a fair number of high end dumbphones, each following the same basic pattern: Somewhere between one and a handful of well executed high end features(camera with actual optics and flash, say), a web browser, if any, based on NetFront [wikipedia.org], and the remainder a sad pile of the same dubious and inflexible software you'd expect from a free-with-contract customer punishment phone.

      It's a pity, really.
      • This is why Android, Pre and especially the iPhone will really dominate the market in the coming years. Most of the phones coming out every year at the moment are just plain crap. Manufacturers should take a cue from Apple and stick to 2-3 models, and concentrate on making them the absolute best they can be (and that means not adding dozens of pointless features)

        There's no way you can create a great user experience when all your resources are just spent shoveling out new and varied crap by the truckload.

      • by Shinobi (19308)

        Netfront? My P1 uses Opera which is the default browser on it.

  • by olsmeister (1488789) on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @10:52PM (#29281129)
    This is for the UK only.
  • It is a PS3 peripheral that allows remote access of the PS3 it does not play PS3 games and uses the PS3 Internet connection to access the Sony store.

    It is like using a PSP to access the PS3.

    Sony might as well make a PSP based phone that accesses the PS3 as well as play downloaded PSP games to compete with the iPhone, which would make better sense.

  • by TheSpoom (715771) * <.slashdot. .at. .uberm00.net.> on Tuesday September 01, 2009 @11:55PM (#29281461) Homepage Journal

    New Sony product enables additional functionality with other Sony products, and nothing else. News at eleven.

    • And how much can i expect to pay for this new way of of buying stuff through a restricted channel?

  • Make some decent games, seriously throw all this crap out the window and start over. Oh, wait, they make more money now? I guess I'll be the one moving on then.
  • Sounds like they are pretty unimaginative in the naming department. Isn't Aibo a robotic dog from Sony?
    • by TeknoHog (164938)
      Aino is a Finnish woman's name. A phone with that name sounds like a Nokia. Even though Nokia seems to prefer model numbers (many of which are overloaded with very old and very recent models), it does use some obviously Finnish names such as Ovi (door) and Maaemo (Mother Earth).
  • "and access the internet browser from anywhere in the world. "

    You mean I can connect my phone to my PS3 over the internet, and use that to get access to the internet? Well done, Sony. But would it have killed you to choose a name that doesn't like a word sometimes used to describe your execs?

    • by TheSpoom (715771) *

      The whole point of this phone is to make the PS3 a requirement, so they're basically splitting its firmware in half, between the phone and the PS3. It's actually kinda interesting, in a horribly evil sort of way.

  • Finally a phone for couples to share ..... afterall, who doesn't want to got Aino?! Wonder how well it cooperates with the Wii?

  • The Ainu is a Sony Ericsson phone, you can clearly see the SE logo in the original article. More details here: http://blog.se-nse.net/youserbase-previews-the-satio-and-the-aino/ [se-nse.net]

  • So if you jailbreak the iPhone you can play playstation games.

    If you jailbreak the Aino can you download iPhone apps from the App store? :)

  • I'm still waiting for a PS/2 Compatible phone.

    I bet I could text faster with one of the old IBM Model M Keyboards.

  • But will it play Crysis?
  • This tool can convert DVD movies to your PS3. Have fun. 4Media DVD to PS3 Converter http://www.111download.com/product/4media-dvd-to-ps3-converter.html [111download.com]

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