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Comments: 216 +- Games: Next Nintendo Handheld To Be Powered By NVIDIA's Tegra Chipset on Wednesday October 14, @09:34AM
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Vigile writes "When you sell over 100 million handheld gaming systems, everyone wants to be involved in your success; just ask Nintendo. As a company with many different obstacles in its path, NVIDIA could definitely use the boost in revenues that would come from partnering with a company like Nintendo on a handheld system, and it looks like the Tegra processor will make that happen. The NVIDIA Tegra processor is an SoC that runs a set of ARM cores, a GeForce-based graphics core and an HD video processor capable of 1080p output that would definitely give the current Nintendo DS/DSi systems a performance boost in line with the Sony PSP. The 'Nintendo TS,' as it has been dubbed, will apparently be ready for a late winter 2010 release and should put a spark in the mobile gaming market and give Nintendo's developers the power to bring higher quality games to the platform."
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Zelda! (Score:2, Funny)
Hell yea next Zelda DS game in 1080p!
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More likely two screens of 480x320 to 640x480, with 4xAA and decent filtering.
Unless they're dumping the dual-screen concept, but it's worked well so far.
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TS, not DS.
Three screens, woohoo!
But my only worry now is battery life.
Are we to expect to see the Nintendo logo then power off?
Are we to even SEE the logo? It'll be like turning it on, light flashes and off.
Damn you Nintendo~, DAMN YOU~
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On a handheld, priorities are different than a home console. In addition to the obvious (like low power consumption), I would think resolution would pale in importance to other things like offloading physics or better compression or procedural generation of textures, to counteract the restricted processor/memory.
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Hey, the next Zelda DS game is only a month away; much too soon for a system a year out! :P
TS? (Score:5, Funny)
That was fast (Score:5, Funny)
Nvidia's getting out of the chipset market so fast they're actually releasing new products already.
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So when can we expect 1080p on the Wii? (Score:5, Insightful)
That's the *real* question. 1080p makes a bigger difference when hooked up to a big-screen TV than it will in a tiny hand-held.
Never (Score:3, Interesting)
The Wii will never have 1080p; Nintendo will make you buy the next console for that.
Re:Never (Score:5, Funny)
The Wiii?
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Cell (Score:3, Interesting)
Blades, motor (Score:5, Funny)
It would be great if it came with a motor and hooked up to a set of blades, it would be really useful as a stick blender and possibly a desk fan. Just make sure you have the plastic blades hooked up for that mode.
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Because EVERY mobile device needs to be a cell phone, PDA, Alarm Clock, web browser, video game console, computer, hooker, and able to play blackjack. Just add a kitchen sink and it will be the perfect handheld, where playing 1080p on a tiny screen will make you want to throw up in a kitchen sink, so just add one on it!
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Well then it looks like you need to get a holster for those calculators, so you can quick-draw them, bucco
Wondering about other specs (Score:2, Insightful)
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The manufacturing cost for the DS flash carts is undoubtedly much lower than UMD was... I'd assume that unless the market just falls in love with the PSPgo (It won't), Nintendo will play it safe and keep some form of physical media.
The street doesn't believe it (Score:4, Informative)
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Open it, and make it a phone (Score:2, Interesting)
Portable game systems are now competing with cell phones. Nintendo needs to realize that for their next portable game system or it will be limited to elementary and middle school kids. Beyond that age, they want a PDA / cell phone.
Granted, there are some big limitations to a cell phone as a gaming platform. The DS and DSi are much cheaper than the iPhone or even the iPod touch, and they have better control inputs. But that may change with future phones, especially Android phones.
The next DS also needs t
Re:Open it, and make it a phone (Score:5, Insightful)
Right, because nobody over the age of 12 owns a DS...
Wait, no. That's not right. I have one, and so does my: Mother, father, sister, both nephews... That's just off the top of my head, and only people actually related to me by blood. My youngest niece owns one, too, but she's actually under 12, so...
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Re:Open it, and make it a phone (Score:5, Insightful)
I doubt that the homebrew community will spend the effort to reverse-engineer the next Nintendo hand-held when they could buy a cheap, open cell phone for the same price.
I think you're REALLY underestimating the homebrew communities. They'll hack it just because they can.
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+1 Absolutely Correct
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Convergence is great, but if Nintendo turned their next portable game system into a phone, they would substantially reduce their potential market share by excluding all the people who already have a phone and don't want to switch to another one, or who just want the game system and don't want to pay for the phone components. Plus, Nintendo has proven that they can hold their own against giants from other industries who have attempted to move in on their space by sticking to what they know: games. Having to
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Totally agree.
Also, exclusivity deals. Apple and AT&t, for instance. It wasn't Apple that wanted to be stuck with one carrier, but the US phone market more or less dictates it. I'd hate to have to miss out on Nintendo's newest handheld for 18 mos/3 years because they have a exclusive deal with Sprint, or Verizon, ect...
Keep the phone hardware off it.
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Nintendo needs to widen their thinking.
I think the DSi proves that they have already begun to do so. If any of the three big game companies (Nintendo, Sony & Microsoft) have proven that they can reach the casual/mainstream audience, it's Nintendo. All they really have left to do is cut out their idiotic fear of the internet.
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Portable game systems are now competing with cell phones. Nintendo needs to realize that for their next portable game system or it will be limited to elementary and middle school kids. Beyond that age, they want a PDA / cell phone.
Uhh... no, we don't.
To Be Powered By NVIDIA's Tegra Chipset (Score:5, Funny)
Zune HD has the Tegra (Score:3, Interesting)
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MS could have stockpiled the chips, right? A one-off batch of a million chips in a warehouse somewhere would last them for, what, 30 years of Zune sales?
I keed, I keed. But seriously...
So the next DS will (Score:5, Funny)
have more graphics power than the current Wii?
Wait, you mean... (Score:3, Interesting)
For once I can play a 3D game on a Nintendo portable and not be limited to 2000 polygons in a scene, and not be limited to shitty point-sample for texture filtering?
Hurray, we can finally have REAL 3D games on the DS, instead of crappy-looking 2D/3D hybrids!
The power consumption is also quite reasonable (Zune HD can do 8.5 hours video playback, and that stresses the GPU core and OLED screen), so it sounds plausible for Nintendo to sign-on.
Graphics and quality are largely unrelated. (Score:5, Insightful)
"...and give Nintendo's developers the power to bring higher quality games to the platform."
Any developer that thinks the thing stopping them from delivering higher quality games is more powerful graphics hardware has no hope of delivering high quality games.
Re:Graphics and quality are largely unrelated. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Graphics and quality are largely unrelated. (Score:4, Insightful)
Any artist can make great art with the tools of their time. But you seem to argue against improving those tools...that the tools we have now are good enough. Could you really have Half-Life or Mass Effect or Bioshock on an 8-bit Nintendo? Maybe, but it would not be as fun because it would be so limited. It would be like telling Mozart that all he could use is a tuba and a triangle.
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So, you are saying the 8-bit Nintendo is all we ever needed. That's the argument you are making and it is stupid.
No, actually that's YOUR stupid argument.
He is saying that 8-bit Nintendo game were still quality games, and you're saying they can't be.
That's a very stupid argument to make, when the 8-bit Nintendo games still sell well on Virtual Console on the Wii.
A more capable system allow for better graphics that can give a more immersive environment as well as having improved AI or capabilities.
Yes, but a less powerful system allows for exactly the same things.
Every retard knows that better graphics != a better game. But it seems counter intuitive to people on here that increasing the hardware specs can give a developer more options to create a deeper game.
Experience has shown that the counter intuitive thing is the correct one.
What you're saying is true in a vacuum, but in real life, there's a thing called money that prevents you from reaching y
Rumors, damn it. RUMORS! (Score:5, Informative)
"Next Nintendo Handheld To Be Powered By NVIDIA's Tegra Chipset"
The Actual Article:
"NVIDIA Tegra rumored to be included in new Nintendo handheld"
RTFA and be a little less misleading, Slashdot.
Re:But will it run Linux? (Score:5, Informative)
...And will we be able to play SuperTux [lethargik.org]?
Not on the TS. Nintendo doesn't associate with amateurs or semiprofessionals. Seriously [warioworld.com]. If you want to run Linux on a gaming PDA, get a Pandora once it comes out.
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If it ever ends up coming out.
Their status page [openpandora.org] looks pretty close. This thing actually sounds very cool, a sort of netbook (plus gaming hand held!) that a linux geek would be able to settle for. The type of thing that still works to lounge around in bed on a winter morning and just cruise the net. Thanks to gp for mentioning this as I had not heard of it, yet had considered getting the previous GP2X in the past. Does anyone have an idea of the cost of this thing?
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I run linux on my DS
Only because the DS has no official firmware update mechanism. On the other hand, the Wii, the DSi, and (presumably) the TS can update their firmware to break homebrew. Firmware updates come on all new games.
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Re:Flashcards (Score:5, Funny)
me@slashdot > --gamemode
SLASHGAME: YOU ARE STANDING IN A FIELD
SLASHGAME: LOOK NORTH
SLASHGAME: YOU SEE AN ANONYMOUS COWARD
SLASHGAME: WALK NORTH
SLASHGAME: THE ANONYMOUS COWARD GREETS YOU BY SAYING "FUCK YOU NINTENDO"
SLASHGAME: INVENTORY
SLASHGAME: YOU HAVE 2 COOKIES
SLASHGAME: QUERY COOKIES
SLASHGAME: COOKIE #1 IS COOKIE WITH POWER OF SU
SLASHGAME: COOKIE #2 IS COOKIE OF APPLE POWER
SLASHGAME: DROP COOKIE WITH POWER OF SU
SLASHGAME: YOU DROP THE COOKIE WITH POWER OF SU
SLASHGAME: ANONYMOUS COWARD PICKS UP COOKIE WITH POWER OF SU
SLASHGAME: IN SOVIET UNION, COOKIE EATS ANONYMOUS COWARD
SLASHGAME: EXIT
me@slashdot >
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But I have to know... it's killing me...
What does the cookie with the power of apple do?
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Well, seems like I'm disappointed, so I'll just have to do it myself:
me@slashdot > --gamemode
SLASHGAME: YOU ARE STANDING IN A FIELD
SLASHGAME: LOOK SOUTH
SLASHGAME: YOU SEE AN ANONYMOUS COWARD
SLASHGAME: WALK SOUTH
SLASHGAME: THE ANONYMOUS COWARD GREETS YOU BY SAYING "FUCK YOU NINTENDO"
SLAS
Re:Flashcards (Score:5, Funny)
75% of what a normal cookie does, at 2x the price!
BAZINGA!
I keed of course... I even posted this from my MacBook.
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Disregard the "Copyright Shogmaster 2007" and you still get a hoax that doesn't look believable.
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are those wings on the sides for ultra-absorbency during "heavy flow" days?