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PlayStation Network Expanding To Involve Other Devices 63

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At CES, Sony's Kaz Hirai confirmed that the company will build out its PlayStation Network for use with other devices, such as televisions, Blu-ray players, and PCs. Quoting: "... the expansion starts next month with the availability of the PSN video store on these other devices, and Hirai explained they are constructing a mechanism to create a single user ID across the entire network (if you have a PSN account, it's good to go on any other applicable Sony device, and if you create one on another device, it'll work on PSN). And finally, Hirai also announced the formation of a new Sony division — called Sony Network Entertainment, Inc. — to drive this expansion of the PSN service into a Sony-wide network."
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PlayStation Network Expanding To Involve Other Devices

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  • SNES (Score:2, Funny)

    by sexconker (1179573)

    I for one welcomed our new SNES overlords, until I realized it stood for Sony Network Entertainment (Subsidiary).

  • by Tei (520358)

    Wen microsoft extended Live to Windows, made imposible to be login on both machines. Don't do that again, please.

    Also, the PC market already has everything, so simply the thing will not work, need to be the thing + some quality and as less drm has possible.

    • by Xest (935314)

      What? I can login to Live for Windows and XBox live at the same time no problems. It doesn't log the other account out or anything, works just fine.

      • Do you mean live messenger or games for windows live? AFAIK you can;'t go on GFWL and XBL at the same time, but messenger is separate service (even though it uses the same ID)
        • by delinear (991444)
          Exactly right, which is why GFWL have the kludgy in game login interface instead of the much better XBL interface which allows you to remain logged in all the time. Apparently they did this because it created issues around where they send messages if you're logged in from two machines, but this sounds like a smokescreen to cover the fact that they've tried to lock down the user profile as much as possible and in doing so made a rod for their own backs (I know from having just spent several days working out
        • by Xest (935314)

          I mean Games for Windows Live- just checked again to confirm it too. Playing CoD Modern Warfare 2 online via XBox live whilst signed into the same Live profile on Windows playing Where's Wally (or Where's Waldo as it's called in North America).

          Definitely works fine, let's me stay signed in on both, can send messages to people on my list of Xbox live friends and receive responses on both the PC and Xbox at the same time.

    • by hanabal (717731)

      I can be logged in my PS3 and PSP at the same time now, so don't worry too much

    • Re:Warning (Score:4, Funny)

      by elrous0 (869638) * on Thursday January 07, 2010 @10:32AM (#30682116)
      Don't worry, Sony has a long history of avoiding DRM in their products.
  • Why? Of what use is a network connected television? Unless I plan to stream from my PS3 over the internet to my TV, rather than using HDMI, I can't quite see the point of this.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by X-Power (1009277)
      Question asked and answered in the same post!
      (but you might want to stream over your local network instead of the internet)
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Velocivus (1376797)

      If they start having Blu-ray players for the HD TVs on the market with a hard drive, you could Download movies over the psn. and if they go that route you'll see alot more content for purchase online, maybe even blu-ray quality rentals right to your ps3? Purchases are now starting to all have digital copies, so in practice, if you buy one it should work on your pc, and or psp.

      They have also been in the works for some partnership over 3D broadcasting and movies for launch in 2012. This new PSN may become mo

      • also, the PS3 meets the new accepted standard for HD 3D.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by nacturation (646836) *

        If they start having Blu-ray players for the HD TVs on the market with a hard drive, you could Download movies over the psn.

        Be nice if you could do that on the PS3 for countries other than the US.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Tukz (664339)

      I can see a lot of uses for this, if you don't have a PS3 for example.

      Turn on TV, go to PSN, start up VidZone.. Music videos right there on your TV, with no extra devices.

      Just to name one.

      • by PopeRatzo (965947) *

        Music videos right there on your TV, with no extra devices.

        Be still my heart. You mean, I'll be able to watch music videos on my own TV? OMG!

        Didn't MTV do this almost three decades ago?

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by HazMat 79 (1481233)

          Music videos right there on your TV, with no extra devices.

          Be still my heart. You mean, I'll be able to watch music videos on my own TV? OMG!

          Didn't MTV do this almost three decades ago?

          Yeah but MTV doesn't do that in this decade.

        • by Tukz (664339)

          Not on demand.
          And it was just an example of use, amongst many.

          May I remind you that NetFlix is coming to PSN soon, so that's NetFlix directly on your TV as well.

    • by djsmiley (752149)

      Different tv to the one the ps3 is connected to maybe?

      Unless you've already blown all your cash on a ps3 and a sony tv of course ;D

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Why? Of what use is a network connected television? Unless I plan to stream from my PS3 over the internet to my TV, rather than using HDMI, I can't quite see the point of this.

      Fewer Set-Top Boxes. Actually that's part of the problem. With narrow TVs you might not even be able to HAVE a set-top box. Maybe a sitting on the floor next to the set boxes. So reducing the number of boxes at the TV is one advantage.

      Networks are designed to send data over longer distances than traditional technologies like HDMI.

  • Pffft..... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Phurge (1112105)
    great, more sony lock in.
    • by feepness (543479)

      great, more sony lock in.

      Yeah! I'm going to go the other video rental services that don't require signing up for an account!

    • "lock in" is fine, provided it does everything you could possibly want the device(s) to do.

      If, however, all devices don't work well together, sure it'll suck. If they "just work", I don't really see an issue with it.

      • by PopeRatzo (965947) *

        "lock in" is fine, provided it does everything you could possibly want the device(s) to do.

        Tell me honestly, have you ever heard of a "lock in" setup that "does everything you could possibly want the device(s) to do"?

    • i think it's less of a lock in and more of a synergy.

      Lock-ins lock you to one device and for enhancement/upgrade you have to buy only from the same manufacturer. With one-account-fits-all approach, you can get similar experience and/or share information (movies/pics/data/pr0n) across different devices.
    • by elrous0 (869638) *
      It's like my grandpa used to say when I was a boy: "Kid, the more power Sony has, the worse the world is."
  • Having a single account / ID for company wide services seems pretty obvious to me. If you take Apple for example, they have always had a single account for their online shop, itunes, app store, etc.

    Now, as others have said, I don't know how this could be useful on devices like TVs and such. And sony isn't exacty known to be very innovative in that domain. I have a sony TV that can connect to the internet, but it can't do anything with that connection (not event upgrade its firmware).

    As always, it's wait-and

  • Now you can change your Single Sign On from Facebook to PSN. Great.
    • You can sign into facebook through the PS3 (not talking the browser, there is a dedicated app). So in essence, if you tell the PS3 to remember your credentials, you can "sort of" sign into facebook using your PSN account :P
  • by KlaymenDK (713149) on Thursday January 07, 2010 @09:22AM (#30681414) Journal

    I've long thought that consoles could be much better (from a user standpoint) if they were more open.

    One example of this is the recent debacle with servers arguably shutting down "too soon" compared to other game types that aren't susceptible to that issue. Another example is that some people have several different consoles in order to play their favourite games and/or with their friends; this is of course a sales strategy for the vendors but not really in the interest of the consumer.

    This news, of Sony expanding their console's reach essentially to outside the domain of the console itself, is good news for consumers: it shows that the boundaries are becoming hazy -- and you can't maintain strict lockdown on blurry borders. Ultimately, this ends up providing more choice for the user.

    Now sadly, "more user choice" is not equal to "more user freedom" -- especially since this news is coming from Sony, peddlers of lockdownware above and beyond the call of duty. But still, if they are doing it, the other vendors are bound to follow.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by khchung (462899)

      I've long thought that consoles could be much better (from a user standpoint) if they were more open.

      No way.

      I played online games since modem days (PC-to-PC), to multiplayer BBS games, to the first Warcraft (remember Kali?), Starcraft, WC3, and most recently on PS3. On all these platforms, only the online games on PS3 allow me to play with random opponents, yet still have the level of enjoyment I got when playing with my friends. That is possible mainly because the PS3 is so lock down!

      I.e., with the console locked tight, I can be reasonably certain no one is cheating. This is a big problem on PC games,

      • by KlaymenDK (713149)

        Cheaters certainly spoil everybody else's fun and need to be booted as fast and as far as possible, no argument there. But that's not what I meant. Cheating is a misfeature of the application (the game) which it certainly needs to be secure enough to withstand.

        My point was rather that the *platform* that serves the application is becoming more open. It might even become common some day for games to function *across* vendors (analogous to how a Mac and a PC player can play Battlefield against each other).

    • by Gravatron (716477)
      Actually, the gaming division has been pretty good this generation about lock in. Take, for example, the fact that you can install PSN games on multiple ps3's. Makes it easier to justify that game purchase if I can share it with my friends.

      The movie store is a bit more locked down, but still allows for movement between devices.

      Toss in all the standardized hardware options (keyboards, mice, headsets, harddrives, etc) and I really wish the rest of the company would adopt the game divisions practices
    • his news is coming from Sony, peddlers of lockdownware above and beyond the call of duty

      Call of Duty [wikipedia.org] is not a Sony game, but an Activision/Infinity Ward game, you insensitive clod!

  • SWEET PSN on my iPhone!!!! wait a minute...
  • Hopefully, they'll think about the problem of multiple simultaneous PSN connections. Right now, I have two PS3's and any given PS3 WANTS to be connected to PSN all the time (for news, licensing, downloads, multiplayer, etc, etc) but logging one in under my master account logs the other out. This is a Supreme pain in the butt if I want to play a game in one room while my kids play one in the other. I can only imagine what a mess it'd be if the TV (and the stereo and the PSP and the toaster, etc) wanted excl

  • Now instead of the 4 built in to the XMB, we can expect links to the store everywhere on every Sony device? It's bad enough on the PS3 - I don't want to turn on my TV/Walkman/toaster and be taken directly to an outlet for overpriced downloads that I never wanted.

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