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BioShock 2's First DLC Already On Disc 466

An anonymous reader writes with this quote from 1Up: "Trouble is brewing in Rapture. The recently released Sinclair Solutions multiplayer pack for BioShock 2 is facing upset players over the revelation that the content is already on the disc, and the $5 premium is an unlock code. It started when users on the 2K Forums noticed that the content is incredibly small: 24KB on the PC, 103KB on the PlayStation 3, and 108KB on the Xbox 360. 2K Games responded with a post explaining that the decision was made in order to keep the player base intact, without splitting it between the haves and have-nots."
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BioShock 2's First DLC Already On Disc

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  • by FlyingBishop ( 1293238 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:30PM (#31486204)

    In other words, the real value here is the other people on the network, and not the game.

  • by Delusion_ ( 56114 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:39PM (#31486338) Homepage

    industry. I work with equipment whose speed and certain other capabilities are determined by the license codes you pay for. To me, this seems dishonest.

    I'm sad to see software publishers embrace this model, but not terribly surprised.

  • How long until... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by JMatopos ( 1768008 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:41PM (#31486386)
    How long until someone cracks this and accesses the 'Downloadable Content' without paying for it? At which point this becomes another way in which legitimate users get hurt. Proponents of DRM everywhere will be proud.
  • 5 dollar game (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BikeHelmet ( 1437881 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:43PM (#31486426) Journal

    Heh, seems like only indy game companies get it right. About a year back I bought Defense Grid (TD) on Steam. Played through it - definitely worth the $5 I paid. A few days ago I fired it up again, and what do I find? More levels, and more game modes. The company just keeps on giving!

    I guess what it comes down to is, indy game companies want to do a good job and provide a fun game, while building up their name. Big game studios want your money, and want to figure out ways to get your money. Both sorts of companies seem to be reaching their goals.

  • by Aphoxema ( 1088507 ) * on Monday March 15, 2010 @03:46PM (#31486486) Journal
    This apparently isn't a patch, though. It's only a "key" to "unlock" the content already available and clearly capable of operating.
  • by Totenglocke ( 1291680 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:04PM (#31486804)
    Hardly. They want to screw you over for buying their product, so (since I'm not buying it anyways) it's only fitting that I should benefit at no cost AND avoid the horrible DRM. Since me pirating a game that I have no intention of buying (due to DRM) doesn't harm the company in any way, there's no reason why I shouldn't pirate it.
  • I'm sorry, what? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dorkmaster Flek ( 1013045 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:19PM (#31487054)
    So your game doesn't support playing with people if they don't have the exact same code? Sounds to me like your game is broken. Why the hell can't you make it work so that I can play with my friend who has the DLC when I don't? As long as we're not using the new DLC maps/weapons/whatever, that shouldn't be a problem. Admittedly, I haven't played Bioshock 2 and I don't know exactly how the multiplayer works, but that sure sounds like a bullshit excuse to me.
  • Re:5 dollar patch (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dishevel ( 1105119 ) * on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:34PM (#31487266)
    You were never promised that content and all the content that they promised you when you decided to buy the game is intact. You got everything you thought you were getting. Where you get the extra content from makes absolutely no difference. It should not matter to you whether the content is on the disk, on a server in a basement or hand delivered by gnome. You were given what you agreed to pay for. End of story. You can have a dull butter knife if you want.
  • Re:5 dollar patch (Score:3, Interesting)

    by dunezone ( 899268 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:45PM (#31487460) Journal
    That fact its on the disc puts us at the assumption that this content was already ready at release but was put in the DLC category to make a quick buck.

    Seems like a cheap way to nickel and dime us which is becoming the defining definition of this generation of gaming development and consoles.

    DLC is a great concept but has turned into such a cash cow that companies are now developing the game and DLC at the same time so to increase their revenue pipeline in a shorter span of time. Its smart from a revenue perspective but the $5 here and the $5 there is starting to add up and to a customer perspective we feel like were getting screwed.

    On a side note though:

    What I am worried about is Blizzard who is taking it to a whole new level. They will release the first part of SC2 which is the Terran campaign. So far they say its going to contain all the content need for Multiplayer. I guarantee when they release the second campaign (lets say Protoss) which right now is going to cost the same prices as the Terran ($60), so now were up to ($120) for both and without the Protoss campaign installed you can only play multiplayer with those that only own the Terran campaign thus eliminating a huge portion of the multiplayer population cause you cant play with those that own both the Terran and Protoss. Same concept as with regular SC and Broodwar, except this is will cost more than a $30 expansion. By the end of the series you are out $180. Pure speculation but it seems like a good revenue pipeline.
  • by not a serious person ( 1318583 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:45PM (#31487464)
    How is playing a game unethical?
  • Re:5 dollar patch (Score:3, Interesting)

    by sammy baby ( 14909 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @04:54PM (#31487576) Journal

    Now, cue the jackasses thinking they did the right thing. I'll cut out my kidney with a disposable drinking straw if anyone can reasonably argue this as ethical.

    Sure, I'll bite.

    I have an XBL membership. Every once in a while, I download a demo of an XBL Arcade game. The other day I decided I liked the game enough to pay for it, and did so. Imagine my surprise when I realized that the only thing that was actually being downloaded was the activation key - all the code and resources needed to play were already on my hard drive!

    So which is worse - me paying top dollar for a game, then another five bucks for a small amount of extra content already on my HD, or paying a few bucks for a smaller game, the entirety of which was already on my HD?

    When I think DLC, I think of things that were created or finished after the final release. Maybe things that were meant to be a part of the final product but were left out due to lack of necessity or space constraints (unlikely with Blu-Ray) that would be released through download for free.

    Well... I hate to tell you this, but that sounds like your mistake, not theirs.

  • Re:5 dollar patch (Score:3, Interesting)

    by PIBM ( 588930 ) on Monday March 15, 2010 @05:58PM (#31488498) Homepage

    I think I'd go with this for a car analogy.

    Lets say you buy a nice sporty car, lets say a BMW at around 350HP. You've been using it for a while, and then your dealer tells you you can get an extra 50HP by applying a software patch, but it will cost you 2000$.

    Well, they've been doing such a thing for a while, and people are actually quite happy with this .. because they got the car as it was advertised in the first case, and those extra HP are well worth the price of the patch and the engine warranty reduction (or whatever..)

  • 5 dollar Pokemon. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 15, 2010 @06:10PM (#31488650)

    "DLC is a great concept but has turned into such a cash cow that companies are now developing the game and DLC at the same time so to increase their revenue pipeline in a shorter span of time. Its smart from a revenue perspective but the $5 here and the $5 there is starting to add up and to a customer perspective we feel like were getting screwed. "

    The only people who feel they're being screwed are those who believe they have to have it all. Those who have the fortitude to pick and choose will not suffer so much from the "they're nickle and diming me". Also the idea of having extra content locked onto the disc is actually quite old. I have VB6 software discs like that.

  • Re:5 dollar patch (Score:2, Interesting)

    by azmodean+1 ( 1328653 ) on Tuesday March 16, 2010 @09:42AM (#31494532)

    Do you feel the same way about CPUs that are artificially limited to run at less than their capacity? Now in that case they aren't offering to sell you an unlock key to make it run at full speed, but I'm sure that's just because it's technically prohibitive to do so in a secure way. (or to be slightly less cynical, because of the bad PR it would generate)

    On another but related topic, I wonder if there is a crack for the game that unlocks the DLC?

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