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Microsoft Docs Indicate Future Xbox 360 Support For USB Storage 130

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Internal Microsoft documents obtained by Joystiq indicate that its Xbox 360 console will gain support for USB storage devices some time this Spring. "According to the document, the USB mass storage device must be at least 1GB and the system will do a compatibility check. 'The system partition occupies 512 MB of space, and by default the consumer partition occupies the remainder of the device capacity, or 16 GB, whichever is smaller.' Upon inserting a blank USB storage device, 'consumers are offered two choices: "Configure now" or "Customize."' The 'Configure now' option will use 'the entire device capacity, up to the maximum of 512 MB plus 16 GB,' meaning, regardless of the overall size of the device you're using, the Xbox will only enable 16 GB of usable, non-system storage. The 'Customize' option will allow you to 'preserve some pre-existing, non-console data on the device' such as music." There have also been rumors of a new, smaller form factor for the 360, and hacker Ben Heck has given his thoughts on some leaked motherboard pictures.
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Microsoft Docs Indicate Future Xbox 360 Support For USB Storage

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  • by Vectormatic (1759674) on Friday March 19, 2010 @06:36AM (#31534304)

    Does this means i can use my simple USB stick instead of a memory card to keep my savegames on? (i have two xboxes, so i need portability)

    Either MS just killed their memorycard business, or this usb stuff is rather useless..

    Also, YAY now you can just get the cheapest arcade xbox you can find, and a $10 usb stick, and have massive fun

  • Re:Still Xbox 360? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Friday March 19, 2010 @06:48AM (#31534368) Journal
    The more accurate term would probably be "revision" rather than "version".

    With the limited exception of assimilating certain things that used to be optional extras as they become cheap(eg. original PS2 had ethernet as an add-on module, by the time the PS2 slim came around, an embedded NIC was much more sensible than an option port), console makers don't really have much incentive to change specs too often, since they are generally trying to cut costs over the console's lifetime, and avoid fragmentation of the market.

    However, while substantial spec changes are comparatively rare, and have historically proven to be a bad idea, most consoles go through numerous revisions(some fairly subtle, and visible only to people who care about inspecting motherboards in detail, others quite visible for marketing purposes, like the new PS3 design) that leave the specs largely the same +/- a few nonessential peripherals; but aim at reducing production costs and correcting flaws in older designs.
  • Re:Oy (Score:2, Insightful)

    by iainl (136759) on Friday March 19, 2010 @07:37AM (#31534594)

    Although given how rife savegame hacking is on the PS3, it does demonstrate that MS aren't _completely_ talking out of their backside when they claim this is why they have until now not liked third-party memory units. I'm guessing there will be some barriers to playing around with the data in these custom partitions.

  • Re:Oy (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 19, 2010 @07:44AM (#31534636)

    And savegame hacking is a problem how?

    If people want to ruin their game experience by cheating or whatever, that's up to them.

  • Strange Sizing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by clickety6 (141178) on Friday March 19, 2010 @07:46AM (#31534650)

    The 'Configure now' option will use 'the entire device capacity, up to the maximum of 512 MB plus 16 GB,'

    So who sells 16.5 GB USB sticks?

  • I'll care... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Friday March 19, 2010 @08:29AM (#31534890)
    ...when I can hook up a mouse and keyboard and actually be able to control games with them. My own personal hell is to have to play CODMW2 with a damn joystick.
  • by Vectormatic (1759674) on Friday March 19, 2010 @08:51AM (#31535044)

    to a certain degree yes, but as i pointed out, i have two 360s, and i need to move my profile from machine to machine (along with saves). The only easy way to do this is to have the profile and saves on a memory card, which are frickin expensive.

    Also, not all 360's come with a hard drive, the arcade/core version have no hard drive (later arcades come with built in 256mb flash). And again.. If you want to move around profiles/saves on the xbox, a memory card is the only easy way to do it (for profiles you could 'recover' it through XBL, but that is a bit stupid when gaming at a friends place, and requires internet. You could also swap hard disks, but that doesnt allow you and your buddy to both use your own profiles at the same time)

  • Re:Oy (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Andy Dodd (701) <atd7@nOspaM.cornell.edu> on Friday March 19, 2010 @09:19AM (#31535522) Homepage

    Any online game that allows a savegame hack to affect online play violates the "do not trust the client... EVER." mantra.

    Violating that mantra almost always leads to crap multiplayer with rampant cheating for one reason or another. When I first saw Crysis' description of why they separated DX10 players from DX9 (more powerful systems to perform physics calculations on, implying that world physics was *offloaded to the client*) I was worried that multiplayer was going to have some cheating problems. Boy was I right... I played multiplayer for about a week then uninstalled Crysis. It's NOT good when someone can change one XML file and make their pistol bullets do 9999999 damage and their vehicles immune to all weapons fire.

  • Re:Ha Ha... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Andy Dodd (701) <atd7@nOspaM.cornell.edu> on Friday March 19, 2010 @09:26AM (#31535660) Homepage

    I haven't had the DVD problem, although to be honest I've played maybe one DVD on the system. I've been doing a LOT of UPnP playback from my media server though.

    Could you elaborate on what about the PS3 sucks as bad as the Xbox? For a long time I was on the fence between buying a PS3 or 360, especially once FFXIII for 360 was announced. In the end I went with PS3 due to Blu-Ray. I'm glad I did, the PS3 seems to be COMPLETELY different in terms of Sony attitude compared to most of their products in regards to weird nonstandard technologies.
    Storage is USB with no "oddball" restrictions. (Just lack of support for "oddball" configurations.)
    Cameras are USB UVC devices
    Wired headsets are USB audio compliant
    Wireless headsets are Bluetooth
    Standard USB keyboards/mice work fine
    The internal hard drive is SATA and nothing (other than maybe power/thermal limits - is the stock hard drive 5400 RPM or 7200?) restricts you from putting a bigger one in.

    I've actually been very pleasantly surprised by the system compared to what I expected prior to owning it. Without planning it, I have a massive pile of accessories for my PS3 which were bought for other purposes.

  • by IndustrialComplex (975015) on Friday March 19, 2010 @09:41AM (#31535948)

    No updates, no new games. If you're not playing new games, why not buy a cheap DVD player? And watch new consoles come with the new firmware. Remember the old days of PSP hacking, when people would analyze the boxes to find a sign of what firmware they came with?

    It almost seems like you are cheerleading their efforts to break someone's setup. The constant updates that these companies are throwing at us now are getting ridiculous. I don't like the idea of not owning the equipment in my home.

    If this were any other consumer products, where 'unauthorized' repairs resulted in more than simply voiding your warranty, you would have consumer protection groups raising hell.

    "Looks like you fitted your lawnmower with an aftermarket air filter. Don't worry, we fixed that for you and glued up the holes that you drilled to fit it. We also welded a piece of metal so it sticks out into the area where you had the old filter, just so you don't try it again."

    Or if when you took your Toyota in for the recall, they ripped out your upgraded head unit and replaced your performance shocks with stock equipment.

  • by tepples (727027) <tepples AT gmail DOT com> on Friday March 19, 2010 @09:45AM (#31536028) Homepage Journal

    Better yet, why buy a cheap DVD player? It's redundant.

    Redundancy has its advantages [wikipedia.org]. When you wear out the drive in a $30 DVD player, you're out $30. When you wear out the drive in an unhacked Wii console, you're out $75 for a drive replacement. But when you wear out the drive in a $200 hacked Wii, on the other hand, you're out $200 plus your savegames. HackMii.com appears to be down right now (returning only "502 Bad Gateway"), but it ran a story sometime last year about Nintendo repairing a console with a dead DVD drive after warranty expiration and charging the owner for a whole new Wii because it was found to have been modded.

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