StarCraft Cheating Scandal Rocks Korea 471
dotarray writes with this snippet: "The largest scandal in e-sports history is currently unfolding in Korea, with revelations that a number of current pro gamers are involved with match setups and illegal betting. While the gamers are unnamed at this point, the story is said to touch many A-list StarCraft celebrities, including sAviOr, Ja Mae Yoon, one of the best-known and most successful players of all time."
Oh my goodness (Score:5, Funny)
A-list? What? (Score:1, Funny)
Do these people have the tabloids after them? Leaked sex tapes by spurned beaus? Drug rehab every other month? No? How are they A-list celebrities then???
This is why I only play D&D (3rd ed.) (Score:5, Funny)
I played Starcraft for a while, and I was very impressed with how balanced the gameplay was and how thought out the interface was. Blizzard did a great job making that game.
But it really stifles the creativity of the player by restricting actions to a very specific set of pre-programmed actions. You *must* farm for Vespene gas. you *must* collect crystals. There is little room for true creativity and adventuring. Today's FPS games are actually getting better at allowing this kind of freedom.
But to really get the most out of a game, you have to use your imagination. There's nothing more challenging than interacting with your friends and working out puzzles with nothing more than paper, dice, and pewter figurines. Dungeons and Dragons (and other clones of it) is the ultimate game because it removes artificially created limits and depends completely on how much you are invested in it.
If people are cheating and rigging game competitions, it's only because there is something to rig. Try cheating in D&D and you'll find that you only cheat yourself.
BadAnalogyGuy (aka Black Leaf)
got caught using cheat codes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:This is why I only play D&D (3rd ed.) (Score:3, Funny)
Well, you'd need a different set of rules and, presumably, a DM you're comfortable with sexually (depending what you plan to be doing with said chicks).
"k, rolling for gender check."
"You did that already."
"Yeah, well, after last time, I feel like rolling again. Panties of Binding +5, my ass...."
"I didn't make the tuckback rule. You got a problem? Take it up with the book!"
Re:A-list? What? (Score:5, Funny)
Speaking as a non-American... who the f**k is Lebron James???
Who knows. I haven't heard of him either. Best guess based on this story: He probably plays Warcraft instead of Starcraft.
I Feel So Betrayed... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A-list? What? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In a way it's nice.. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:A-list? What? (Score:5, Funny)
That's it, you're going on my foe list... :)
Re:In a way it's nice.. (Score:5, Funny)
instead, you're part of the demographic that cares about "Dancing with the stars". Congratulations.
Re:Who cares? (Score:1, Funny)
You could say Starcraft is a shitty game, but to me Football, Hokey, and Baseball are shitty games. Oh and Basketball, too. Down on a 10 year old game,w ell these games have been around for much longer. Talk about dated gameplay.
Re:Name is wrong - Jae Yoon Ma (Score:2, Funny)
First Name. There, said it, whatcha gonna do about it
Re:In a way it's nice.. (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah, big surprise that where there's betting... (Score:3, Funny)
Reminds me of a Woody Allen quote, "I was watching a ballet at City Center, and I'm not a ballet fan at all, but they were doing the dying swan, and there was a rumour, that some bookmakers had drifted into town from upstate New York, and that they had fixed the ballet. Apparently there was a lot of money bet on the swan to live."
Re:A-list? What? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:A-list? What? (Score:3, Funny)
Aaah Jordan! I wondered what Michael Jackson had to do with sport...
Re:A-list? What? (Score:3, Funny)
If you're an old person, ask your robot to do it.
Re:A-list? What? (Score:4, Funny)
Yeah, see, telling a non-sports-loving, non-American nerd (me) that Lebron James is the basketball equivalent of Peyton Manning doesn't help, because then my next question inevitably is: Who the hell is Peyton Manning?
I suppose neither one of these guys has managed to have dozen mistresses at once, because I sure do know who Tiger Woods is.
Re:A-list? What? (Score:2, Funny)
Not Michael Jackson. He means Mick Jagger.
is a golf a sport? (Score:3, Funny)
you walk and hit a ball. any old duffer can do that
is car racing a sport?
like you said, you sit down and push a buttons. now you've added a steering wheel
is poker a sport?
you fiddle with chips and cards. but those poker players are athletes of mental endurance, that's for sure
no, the simple fact is: a sport is anything you want to call a sport, a sport. and if enough people agree with you, it simply is the new truth
why? because there is no linguistic authority that allows people to use words in only proscribed ways. the people own the language, and the people decide what a word means any damn way they please, in aggregate, with no authority. this is simply the evolution of language: all words shift in meaning, constantly. the way you use certain words would be looked at aghast by people from 1960, 1910, 1860, etc. the world is not ending, language is simply evolving, as it always has, and always will
if enough people feel like the word "sports" is being dumbed down too much, a new word will evolve that will come to signify a sport of mighty physical endurance only, like football or cycling... if enough people deem that meaning important, and incorporate it into wide use
why don't you go and invent that derivative word now, or coopt an existing word close in meaning to a new meaning. it happens every day, all the time. go, get the ball rolling, pun intended
Re:Name is wrong - Jae Yoon Ma (Score:2, Funny)
His first name is Jae Yoon, and his surname is Ma. Typically written in Korean with the surname first, as Ma Jae Yoon. Ja Mae Yoon is wrong.
This website is not in Korean is it?
Great first Korean Grammar Naz...err I mean Juchi!
Re:Sport? (Score:3, Funny)
It's a sport when you talk about, it's a game when you play it.
Also you are very old.
Re:Sport? (Score:3, Funny)
He's on Slashdot. He probably clicks that fast normally.
Actually, in all seriousness, 3 times a second, or 180 actions per minute) is fast for a starcraft player, but it is too slow for a Korean pro - only the slowest of them, such as Savior, average 200 over a game, while most average an APM Of 300-450 over the course of a 5-60 minute game, and peak at maybe 600 or so.
I can maybe hit 300-400 if I mindlessly spam keypresses and mouseclicks while doing nothing at the start of the game. I can't evisage how anyone actually can click that fast that AND keep track of the units and the tech tree and the base layout and the production buildings and the workers and the scouting and the upgrades and the 2 dozen things you have to worry about in a normal Starcraft game AND try to outwit some other devious bastard at the other end of the internet trying to kill you off all at the same time.
Anyone who says playing Starcraft doesn't involve a physical skill is probably assuming that it's like some other game they happened to play once.