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An anonymous reader writes "TransGaming Cedega, the software forked from Wine that allows running Windows games under Linux, is being discontinued and replaced by GameTree Linux. This new software is also free. From the new website: 'TransGaming is pleased to announce the continued development of Cedega Technology under the GameTree Developer Program. This repositioning of the technology that powered the Cedega Gaming Service will allow the entire Linux community to gain free access going forward. Cedega is a cross-platform enablement technology that allows for Windows-native games to be executed on both the Linux desktop and embedded Linux platforms.'"
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It should be noted that CodeWeavers employs both Jeremy White and Alexandre Julliard.
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I wonder if they're going to attempt to incorporate Wine code (assuming that licensing is made compatible)? The most recent versions of Wine are honestly just *better* at playing Windows games than Cedega is! Cedega had some advantages - convenience and commercial backing (CodeWeavers, the backing for Wine, usually seemed more interested in business apps). However, if you were willing to use Wine, you could actually game a lot better on it than on Cedega.
I'm reminded of EVE Online. They released a Linux version of their client, which was just a Windows version wrapped in Cedega. It was an immense download, and while it worked, the advanced graphics options were disabled - Cedega didn't support them. Most of us just continued using Wine, which aside from a few glitches and a more complicated setup was better in almost every way. CCP (makers of EVE) eventually discontinued the Linux client, saying that the game ran so well on Wine that there was no reason to pay Cedega for their version (the client was free to players; presumeably CCP was eating the cost of the Cedega license). At the time of discontinuation, Cedega still didn't support the advanced graphics options, but Wine did - and the glitches were all but gone.
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I dont know if its changed but one thing Cedega was better at was support for copy protection used on games (the binary builds of Cedega include stuff licenced from the makers of those copy protection technologies)
IIRC Wine developers were reluctant to try to support these technologies because of concerns over the DMCA and lawsuits from DRM manufacturers.
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I'm not sure whether those concerns were ever addressed, but Wine implements just enough of the Windows kernel APIs to make the more common DRM schemes work. I'm not sure how it fares on the newest stuff - though it works fine with Steam, which is about as much DRM as I'll tolerate on a game these days - but Securom and so forth were specifically made to work.
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You're much better off just downloading a cracked executable for those protected games. Less bullshit, more stability, no headaches.
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A Windows viruss will only shit the path configured into wine. If you set each application as a "bottle" using WINEPREFIX, It will only shit on that application installation. Only a Wine-aware Windows could potentielly damage files outside of it path. I doubt those exist. And even if Wine viruss exist, it would only shit on your home files. That a lot of IF, i would say it safe enough for games.
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When you replace the entire executable the system tends to work pretty well. When you have to install a patch to a game it usually crashes. I no-CD all my games because having to have CDs is stupid, and because it does indeed make them work better in Wine. Notably to me, Simcity 4 is unplayable with DRM and works fine with No-CD. Right now I'm just hoping that Mechwarrior 4 Free will work properly one day... I was able to at least TRY to start the new, non-DRM version.
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This is really not safe - in the default setup, for instance, the Z: drive is Unix / (file tree root). Wine DOES NOT SANDBOX in any actually effective manner.
People have run viruses with Wine. Wine is compatible enough to run malware!
Any binary running in Wine can do anything that user can do, like trashing the home directory or filling /tmp .
If you want to be cautious, run it as a different username (with access to your X11 screen). Wine is compatible with toxic waste too.
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So chroot it.
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If you've done this, please post a HOWTO to the Wine wiki [winehq.org], or at least the forum [winehq.org]!
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While many viruses can be executed by wine, most of the methods they use to insert themselves to run at bootup won't work on wine, and once the wineserver processes is terminated so is any of the malware.
As for having the root filesystem mapped, this is more for convenient but can (and usually should) be disabled, that said unless your running it as root it won't have access to anything outside your $HOME or /tmp, and even if it wanted to trash your homedir most malware is not wine aware and wouldn't know w
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Oh, definitely, the risk is much less. And running something with a virus attached is very unlikely to trash your home directory as much as doing the same on Windows would do to your whole system.
The "Risks" section of the Wine FAQ [winehq.org] answers canonically.
Wine is not an emulator (Score:2)
Given that "wine is not an emulator" but rather a library that mimics the Windows API and a loader that understands the Windows executable format, the code that is running is native code for your architecture and can potentially do anything a native application can assuming it's been written with that in mind. So you should expect a Windows application running under Wine to be able to do anything a native application could do running under the same user account.
There is one aspect of running under Wine that
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The Z drive was a surprise for me when I first time noticed it - wine did not always have that as default, it came couple years ago.
Btw, last time I read about
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Yes. The Wine FAQ, "Risks" [winehq.org] says approximately that.
The real answer, of course, is "consider not running dubious and possibly-infected cracks" ...
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I tried to confirm this for a WWN story last year (year before?) and couldn't get a single virus to execute without failing. I tried to run 30 common viruses that had been suggested due to simple Windows requirements and not a single one caused damage. In all of the discussions regarding what should be done when viruses do start working no comment has been made about a single one running to a point where it would be a concern.
I was unable to trace the origin of this claim eithe
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That's interesting! I have this January 2007 post to wine-devel [winehq.org]. That's linked from the Wine FAQ.
Did you write up and post the results of your experiment somewhere? That would definitely be worth a FAQ link too.
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CodeWeavers, the backing for Wine, usually seemed more interested in business apps
I'm not sure about their Linux version, but for the Mac they ship CrossOver and CrossOver Games, the latter (obviously) focussed more on gaming. I downloaded them when they issued the free download for a day because the CEO lost a bet. I don't use them anymore because the stock WINE is better (although the guy who was doing the Mac builds hasn't started on the 1.3 series yet and I'm too lazy to build them myself - last time I tried I eventually got something that worked, but didn't have OpenGL support...)
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Yes, they're discontinuing the subscription plan and will be working with developers.
I thought that business plan was put in place years ago? Back when they started their Cider project, ignored Linux, but continued to collect subscription fees from those not wise enough to cancel their subscription.
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They do much more then just throw a few patches back..
1) They pay most of the main contributors on wine.
2) You can download their full source off their site
3) They host the wine website
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So answer honestly Linux guys, how much money have you spent on the software that is currently installed on your PC?
Full ticket price? NWN set me back $80, quake 3 set me back $50, quake 4 set me back $60. Baldurs gate 2 set me back $80, mostly older titles I know.
Humble indie bundle I donated $25 to.
Thing is, if the game company tells me (ala ID software) that they will eventually open source the game engine code but not the art so you will still pay for it, I'm a hell of a lot more likely to pay for their stuff.
Closed source has far too many drawbacks to be worthwhile to me on most occasions, if the game engine is open it means so long as the game is semi popular it will always work on my platform of choice.
Money is not the issue, the issue is people (or at least me) don't want to fork out $60 for a game where you are screwed when the engine breaks because of lack of updates. Or in a couple years when the multiplayer servers get killed and you can't play online.
I've dropped about a grand on wii games simply because I'm guaranteed they will continue to work so long as they have a wii. Only way to ensure it will continue to work on the pc is to have the engine source open and have people actually interested in using it.
Added bonus is you get free labour for the port, and code improvements over time which the company did not have to pay a cent for.
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I've dropped about a grand on wii games simply because I'm guaranteed they will continue to work so long as they have a wii.
Wii discs get scratched; what'll fix those? Also, Nintendo has a history of rejecting indie developers with nontraditional business structures.
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Wii discs get scratched; what'll fix those?
Game discs get scratched? Yes, I'm being facetious, but anything newer than PS1 games are hard to scratch. Keep games in their cases when you're not playing them, and don't use them as frisbees and they won't scratch. Also there are devices designed to fix scratches in discs:
http://www.amazon.com/Excelerator-Motorized-Automax-Scratch-Repair/dp/B0009834M4 [amazon.com]
Also, Nintendo has a history of rejecting indie developers with nontraditional business structures.
No one cares about the axe you constantly grind about that.
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Wii games are good for kids, but kids are very good at scratching games...
Thankfully pirates come to the rescue and provide a very useful function that is missing from modern consoles - the ability to copy the media and play the copy, thus giving you the ability to make another copy when the first one becomes damaged.
Years ago, when music came on cassettes it was standard practice to make a copy and play the copy.
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Use a USB loader, problem solved. Sure they are commonly used by pirates, but they are also used for people keeping legitimate backups of their discs. The games have shorter load times from USB, and you don't have to switch discs. The list of games that can't be ran from USB is very small, if you have one of those, just leave that disc in there.
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What are the drawbacks of closed source, specifically? You don't sound like you are actually a programmer, so I can't see OS giving you much, if any, benefit, except for the fact that it's likely to be free-as-in-beer.
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You don't sound like you are actually a programmer, so I can't see OS giving you much, if any, benefit, except for the fact that it's likely to be free-as-in-beer.
You'd be wrong, linux user of over ten years now and when things don't work I tend to 'make them' work. (latest was for a friend, ported bristol audio synth to mac os x, usually just little things).
That being said, I'm a lazy person and while I can fix things myself it's far better if I can spend that time doing something productive instead.
What are the drawbacks of closed source, specifically?
The biggest problem for me is dependence, using closed source software you are being dependent on a vendor for future code updates, if the source code is open under a no
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users just prefer the windows way: I've this program, I bought 20 years ago, and I can still launch it in windows *just fine*. no recompilations, no dependency, no libraries...
The problem is windows users CAN'T do that. Try playing thief the dark project on a modern windows machine, it will chuck shits, and no-one can fix the original engine because it is not open source.
the most messy thing users have to do on windows is to dig up an older direct x version (and there is the direct x 9 small updates flurry nightmare)
No, the most messy thing windows users have to do is emulate an entire system from the era and hope to god it doesn't need something like glide support for 3d acceleration which the VM won't do.
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No, but the cpu affinity thing is one of the things I was talking about, are you saying it is a _good_ thing that you have to force cpu affinity for a process for it not to crash and burn?
Kind of helps that they practically included a vm'd xp with it too, which brings back to my point about basically emulating the entire system and still hoping for the best.
Kludges upon kludges are bad, having an open source engine allows people to fix this.
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still which is easier for a user who can turn the computer off if the button is not red?
The easiest thing for them to do is download a new binary, and run it.
even if it *is* super easy to apply a patch and recompile an open source program,
They would not need to, someone else (likely the person who coded the patch and sent it to the program maintainers) would do it for them and they would download a normal binary that just works.
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Among other things...
With open source:
If you are a programmer you can fix things, if you aren't then there is still a much wider range of people who can fix or improve things than with closed source. If a piece of software is really important to you, open source always gives you the opportunity to hire programmers to work on it for you.
With closed source only the original vendor can fix anything for you, they might be unwilling or unable to do so. Quite often they will leave their old products to rot and ex
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Well said...
I still play quake (the first one) on a regular basis, i have an original cd with the data files but i haven't touched the original program binaries in years, i use quakeforge which runs nicely on my modern gentoo box. I play online with a handful of friends and we run our own server - most other quake 1 servers have long since been shut down.
I'm sure it will still be possible to play quake online for years to come... If we ever move over to ipv6 fully, how many old games will still be playable
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If you really want to guarantee the availability of your old software, why don't you simply use an old computer, the exact same deal you are taking on with the Wii?
It is far harder to keep an old PCs in working conditions then a Wii or any other console for that matter, as with the Wii you have one single technology on which all games released for it will work, with PCs on the other side you have a ton of different and constantly changing technologies, OSs, soundcards, graphic cards, input devices, etc.
Have the PC of the right time for a game, but lack a 3Dfx card? Your favorite game might not run at all. Have an old PC, but miss a driver? Good look finding that. Ther
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You can't just put together any old PC and then expect it to run ALL older software,
Yes, and thats exactly the problem. I can do that with a console. If I have a SNES I can say exactly what will work and what will not. With a PC it is a whole lot of "maybe" and suboptimal experiences (slow framerates, crashes, etc.). Also if I upgrade from SNES to N64. I still have my SNES around. If I upgrade from XP to Windows7, I no longer have a Windows XP PC around.
If you consider emulation then it's even less sensible. Today you emulate DOS with DOSBox, and decades from now you'll be able to emulate Windows XP/Vista/7,
The problem is that there are quite a few games released past-DOS but pre-XP. Yes, in 10 years that won't be an issue and can be solved wi
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Just a reminder that Cedega is not a repackaging of Wine. It's a proprietary fork, from back before Wine went GPL (which it did precisely because Cedega - then WineX - felt entitled to use Wine as a solid base, but not so keen to contribute their improvements back to the community). For this reason, they cannot port code over from Wine, and has diverged a lot from it since.
I've bought Cedega back in the day when they were superior for Linux gaming, but abandoned them when their they started to noticeably lag behind vanilla Wine in most games that I care about. I haven't been running Linux-only for several years now and don't know how things are today, but from what I heard, the gap has only widened since, to the point that Wine is better for vast majority of games.
What I also recall is that one other reason why TransGaming was very much disliked is due to their "source available but don't dare use it" license. See, they used to provide the code to most of Cedega (IIRC the various DRM bits were excluded), and you could actually fetch it from a public CVS and build it yourself to get a working product for free. However, TransGaming has stated that the source code is made available for "community improvements", and not simply for people using it to get a free if not full-featured version for themselves (that despite the license for the code making no such distinctions!), and that, if source code access would be abused, they'd remove it completely. They especially hated how the various source-based distros (such as Gentoo) provided automated fetch-and-build scripts allowing users to get Cedega for free with a single invocation of the package manager. Given how the product itself was largely based on a community-developed, FOSS code base, it was seen as a particularly offensive slap in the face, more so than if the code was just closed.
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I always maintain a dual-boot environment on my primary desktop, so that I can keep an eye on how things are in Linux land, and dabble with development for those things which work better on a Unix-like system (e.g. Common Lisp). But my primary desktop OS has been Windows for the last 4 years (after 2 years of Gentoo and then 2 more of Debian), simply because it works better for me.
FWIW, I've built a new box recently completely from scratch, and it looks like Linux is still struggling with hardware support t
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Oh yes, and if you want something to "make Wine simple", that's what CrossOver is for (and they have a special edition for games). Unlike Cedega, they do stay in sync with mainline Wine and contribute their fixes back there.
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So answer honestly Linux guys, how much money have you spent on the software that is currently installed on your PC?
Quite a lot, if you total up my .wine directory. The problems is a catch 22, there's several things I miss to the point where I'd pay for it both when it comes to games and other software but there are no offerings. Of Linux natives I did buy World of Goo on Linux release day, beyond that I haven't found much worth buying to be honest. There hasn't been a mainstream game like "Neverwinter Nights" or "Unreal Tournament" once was released for Linux in years. Not even a sustained megahit like WoW that could ea
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Well, it has been confirmed that there will be Steam (and thus Source) for Linux. Possibly some non-Source developers will use winelib to make their program run properly there and pick up some of that new market. But I doubt it.
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No, Phoronix (the champion of verified news) has repeated a rumor from an equally unreliable source which was based on a few strings that showed a script had a case for linux - as if that couldn't just mean it was a standard cross platform script, no cleary this is rock solid proof that Steam is coming to Linux. They've also later denied that any such thing is in the works.
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I just donated to Anki [ankisrs.net] last week. I've donated to Wine and KDE and at least ten other software projects that I use.
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Because despite what Linux users say about wanting things like gaming every time I see someone actually try to support Linux by catering to them, like Cedega or Loki, they end up going tits up.
GNU/linux users paid more individually then both Mac users and windows users for the humble indie bundle 1 and 2 (which included the games from bundle 1 as well) and they were about 1/4 to 1/5 of paying costumers. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Humble bundle [humblebundle.com]
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Which means very little. PC and even Mac gamers have more choices for their entertainment dollar than Linux users.
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Did you read the post GP was responding to? The point was not that Linux users will be forever generous. The example was provided as evidence against the idea that GNU/Linux users are unwilling to pay for what they want. In fact (making the same observation that you did), their desire to have more games has inspired them to pay _more_ than they might otherwise do. GP's point was that GNU/Linux users do want games, and that they've showed us so. That point stands.
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Almost all the software on my PC was Free except Nero CD, for which I paid twenty+ten bucks (3.0 + 4.0 upgrade, not that 3.0 was failing to meet my needs at the time.) And it's not like it's not easily downloaded, either; there's even a keygen. I ran a downloaded copy with generated key for a while until I proved to myself that Nero was as stable as the PC version, which for the record didn't happen until version 3 (2 was the original Linux release.) So basically, just like Windows!
I would buy games that I
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Your supposed to play freeciv online against other humans, it's much more fun that way...
Drop me a message if you'd like to play sometime.
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Wait, people even still use Nero, much less pay for it?!? Wow... last I checked (admittedly years ago) K3B was strictly better, and included with KDE for free. You can of course install it separately too, though it'll need QT and some other KDE dependencies.
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Actually I supported them for quiet some time and did buy a couple Loki games before they died. With Cedega, It was clear that people would only vote on the latest great games, which was great, but it was always a moving focus in my opinion and seems like a bad way to go unless you had tons to developers. Then it seemed like the subscriber community would berate anyone that voted for stuff like "work on old games", so I stop supporting them, and left the "ooo shiny people" to the fruits of their labors.
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I think you have some circular reasoning going on here.
- There isn't any commercial software for Linux because Linux users don't buy software.
- Linux users don't buy software because there isn't any commercial software for Linux.
Loki went under because they suck at business, basically. They ported games long after they were released, published them on CDs (which retailers basically wouldn't carry), and didn't advertise. Even if you wanted to buy a Linux port of a year-old game (and hadn't already bought the
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Windows XP was released in 2001. Try running modern Linux programs on distros from 2001 and tell me that it's easier than Windows XP. The dependency issue is really a non-issue: just include the DLLs in the app directory and you are done. If you want to make it complicated, you can, but you don't have to. It generally just works. Again, tell me that's harder than autotooling a project and having it correctly build and install on even modern Linux distros. I've made software for both Windows and Linux
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Windows XP was released in 2001. Try running modern Linux programs on distros from 2001 and tell me that it's easier than Windows XP.
You're counting from the wrong direction.
Windows Vista was released in 2007. That means everyone was using XP until then. The stupid installer issues existed on new computers until then.
So at the least you mean 'Try running modern Linux programs on distros from 2006 and tell me that it's easier than Windows XP.'
This is, of course, pretending everyone upgraded. Windows up
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I don't see how any of what you said negates my point. Software from today works on Windows released over 9 years ago. Software from today DOES NOT WORK on Linux released 9 years ago, let alone 5. Most software from XP works on Vista and 7. A lot of software on Linux from the mid-2000s will not work on modern Linux without a recompile or hunting down ancient versions of libraries.
Sure, MSI was missing early on. There are and were other ways to install software. The dependency issues are orthogonal to M
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Some linux software written today would work on a 2000 linux distro, and some windows software written today does not work on xp.
Most linux software is distributed as source, so a recompile is not a problem. I still run xv every day on my modern linux machines for viewing images, xv was written in 1994.
If you really must run old precompiled software that depends on old libraries you can bundle those libraries in with the software - like many windows apps do.
The differences however, are...
XP was current in 2
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"the nice picture app that came with the camera you gave grandma for Xmas"
Aside from the fact that most software bundled with devices is pretty crap, the answer is because the company selling the camera wants to sell cameras, the software is just a freebie to sweeten the hardware. Adding linux software in the same package, or even just claiming linux compatibility on the packaging will at best increase sales and at worst do nothing at all.
If you look at the recent sales of the humble indie bundle, when given a choice linux users on average are willing to pay more and there is qui
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Selling support contracts won't work out for you any better than selling games would if you keep the same mindset that's failed so many 'Linux' companies...
RedHat said it best, there's about 1/10th as much money to be made in Open Source as their is in proprietary software. If you go in charging the same prices as Microsoft, and have as much expensive overhead that you can't cut out, you're not going to make it, with support contracts or anything else.
There's no question at this point that Linux will domin
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I can't answer for the comment you replied to, but I've bought quite a bit of software. Even though I can legally download for free (no-cost) my OS i've bought it before to get money back to developers. I can look on my shelf and easily count the the cases of over a couple dozen games I've bought. Given the recent trend of download only games by Indy developers I suspect I've bought another couple dozen games that have no cases. For both the Humble Bundles, I beat the average price several times over.
W
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despite RMS saying it is about "free as in freedom" the only stuff I see popular on Linux is "free as in beer".
Likely because if it conforms to the 'Free Software' (free as in free speech) definition it is free (in terms of cost).
Re:frosty piss (Score:4, Insightful)
It's not exactly that "Codeweavers at least contributes most of their patches back to Wine", it's that Codeweavers are entirely behind Wine, employing Alexandre Julliard and most of the important devs of Wine, hosting winehq.org etc. The proprietary parts of CXO/CXG are mostly related to ease of use, MacOS ports, copy protection and support. And Codeweavers is really a cool company with excellent (if a bit crazy) communication, friendly behavior towards their customers, etc.
I own and pay updates for CXO Pro (thus having access to Crossover Office AND Crossover games for about $30/year, and often less due to their occasional great promotions), and it's really worth every penny.
I just bought a lot of games on Steam/GOG during the holiday sales, and I've been really astonished at the number of games that run more or less flawlessly on CXG. Basically almost everything I bought runs, including Company of Heroes, Left4Dead 1/2, all the Half-Life, the Flatouts, Civilization IV and expansions, S.T.A.L.K.E.R.... Some actually run that are indicated by GOG as not running on Win7 (http://www.gog.com/en/mix/games_that_are_not_windows_7_compatibile_yet)... I get better compatibility for Windows games on Linux than on Win7, how ironic is that ?
I don't know what this new thing from Cedega will give, but I for sure will stay a customer at Codeweavers as long as they keep their ways, and I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future. Long life Codeweavers !
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As a dual-booter, I'm curious, what's the performance like under CXG compared to running in Windows? I'd like to not have to dual-boot.
Linux confuses me. (Score:1)
>>>"TransGaming Cedega, the software forked from Wine that allows running Windows games under Linux, is being discontinued and replaced by TreeGame Linux."
Huh? What?
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A repositioning is the silver bullet that solves all of your problems. For what i gather, if a company has no clue, they will reposition themselves hoping they end up doing something that turns a profit. If it doesn't work, lathe, rinse, repeat. Of course a better strategy would be to try to figure out the '2. ???' before '3. profit!'. But competence is a rare beast.
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GameTree says their website.
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Uhh, I fail to see the problem with what the parent posted.
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Is GameTree the answer?
"GameTree," says their website.
Or the "speaker"?
GameTree says their website <foo>
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That the meaning could be sussed out doesn't imply that there was "nothing wrong" with the post.
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I think it's TameGree but i'm not sure
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no, no, TameGrue
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Gaming in a Tree? (Score:1)
Cedega is
clearly part of the SCO alliance.
Sittin' in a tree.
K-I-S-S-I-N-G-E-R!
Freestyle!
Or how about support the real WINE developers? (Score:5, Insightful)
TransGaming did some really nasty things back in the days - after all, it was so bad that the WINE devs decided the best thing to do was relicense WINE from BSD to LGPL. While TransGaming is legally in the right since they forked the code prior to the license switch, what they did still doesn't sit well.
Why support them when you can support the WINE guys by buying CodeWeaver's Crossover [codeweavers.com] product? At least CodeWeavers directly supports WINE, and all the patches CodeWeavers make to support new games and apps make it back into WINE for everyone to enjoy?
Even the WINE guys recommend CodeWeavers [winehq.org].
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Technically speaking, TransGaming could very well not be "in the right" since the copyright holders also have the right to revoke previously granted licenses. This is a common misconception that I believe needs to be addressed as it's too widespread among developers (another example where this mistake manifests itself is in OpenSSH).
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Can you cite a precedent here? A written license is a written license.
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Depending on the wording of the specific license, the copyright holders may have given up their right to revoke the license.
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I don't know where you got that idea. Previously granted licenses operate under the license terms that applied at the time that they were granted. The copyright holder can change the terms for future licenses, but not for already granted licenses.
If the earlier license included a time limit or a revocation clause, then that could apply. But you can't retroactively and unilaterally change the terms of an already issued license.
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Basically if a licensee breaks the terms of the license, then the licensor can revoke the license.
Some licenses like the GPL contain terms that automatically revoke the license when terms are broken.
TransGaming is legally "in the right", since the BSD license basically means "Do whatever you want with the code, even close it up and sell it, just leave the license header in the sources".
That may not have been what the Wine
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AKA How not to make money off of OpenSource. (Score:1)
Of course, it is not like CodeWeavers is rolling in cash, but Cedega took a product and ran it straight into the ground, hurting the Linux community with it. If CodeWeavers had had that support (and been around) way back then, we would be MUCH further along in making Windows an annoying legacy performance problem.
Thankfully, the web has places like Mozilla and Wikipedia that have had total support both in terms of community and financial health. Without their work, the web would be MUCH worse off today.
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If they're going to give it away free, why not simply contribute anything they have which is still of value back to the mainline wine codebase....
Mainline wine is already way ahead in many areas, so it makes sense for development to continue here rather than on cedega's old fork.
pooling resources would strengthen FOSS (Score:1)
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